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"Spread the Wealth Around"...what this means ... - 10/18/2008 5:38:21 PM   
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There has been much hub-bub about Joe the Plumber but the telling thing about this episode is what Obama said... "Spread the Wealth Around" when a small businessman asked about his taxes.

Now I know there are lots of opinions on this matter but I'd like to ask what this term "Spread the Wealth Around" means to you.

I think it shows Obama's socialistic bent. And that's the real story.
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RE: "Spread the Wealth Around"...what this me... - 10/18/2008 5:47:45 PM   
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It's straight out of the Communist Manifesto.

“From each, according to his ability; to each, according to his need”

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RE: "Spread the Wealth Around"...what this me... - 10/18/2008 7:04:02 PM   
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RE: "Spread the Wealth Around"...what this me... - 10/18/2008 7:08:26 PM   
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Steph used the quote I was going to use to show it's not an original Obama thought. And it hasn't worked out well at all anywhere in the world it was tried. The problem, I fear, is that most Americans don't make this connection and the Republicans haven't gone far enough to make them understand. Without a good history lesson, I think most Americans probably think this sounds like a good idea.
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RE: "Spread the Wealth Around"...what this me... - 10/18/2008 7:14:09 PM   
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Very sad that a lot of Americans don't see what's happening. People would rather numbed in to complatency with pretty words. Trouble is once this school of thought gets into office it's not one for letting go of power.

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RE: "Spread the Wealth Around"...what this me... - 10/18/2008 7:27:12 PM   
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Steph used the quote I was going to use to show it's not an original Obama thought. And it hasn't worked out well at all anywhere in the world it was tried. The problem, I fear, is that most Americans don't make this connection and the Republicans haven't gone far enough to make them understand. Without a good history lesson, I think most Americans probably think this sounds like a good idea.


It's led to the slaughter of millions upon millions of people.

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RE: "Spread the Wealth Around"...what this me... - 10/18/2008 8:25:27 PM   
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The problem, I fear, is that most Americans don't make this connection and the Republicans haven't gone far enough to make them understand. Without a good history lesson, I think most Americans probably think this sounds like a good idea.


Most Americans think the world revolves around themselves. The current credit crisis because both the government and Americans believe they can live beyond their means. The idea of saving for 20% down payment for a home is long gone.

Republicans share in the blame b/c they have not governed as conservatives and want the media to like them. It has been said that people get the government they deserve, and the sad truth is we deserbe a Marxist such is Nobama.
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RE: "Spread the Wealth Around"...what this me... - 10/18/2008 9:25:53 PM   
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We all know how well Marxism works. Everybody suffers together. It's like a bucket of crabs ...when one tries to climb out and succeed the others drag him back down into the bucket.
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RE: "Spread the Wealth Around"...what this me... - 10/18/2008 10:51:30 PM   
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It's simple, the government, at the point of a gun, is going to take even more of the money I earn and give it to those who have not earned it.

I for one am not pleased....

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RE: "Spread the Wealth Around"...what this me... - 10/18/2008 11:03:35 PM   
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It's simple, the government, at the point of a gun, is going to take even more of the money I earn and give it to those who have not earned it.

I for one am not pleased....


So is everyone feeling as helpless as I do right now? I can't help but think this helplessness, and just accepting this, is UnAmerican.
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RE: "Spread the Wealth Around"...what this me... - 10/19/2008 3:24:04 AM   
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I think it shows Obama's socialistic bent. And that's the real story.

You can't live without socialism, and that has already been proven.

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RE: "Spread the Wealth Around"...what this me... - 10/19/2008 6:41:54 AM   
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Spread the Wealth Around means that those of you who keep paying federal taxes keep subsidizing my negative tax liablity because of all of the tax cuts Dubya has given me. You've done a great job of it since 2002 and I'm sure you'll support Obama should he become elected and want to continue his decision to continue the Bush tax cuts and to increase those who qualify for said cuts.

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It's simple, the government, at the point of a gun, is going to take even more of the money I earn and give it to those who have not earned it.

I for one am not pleased....


I'm pleased and I'm grateful. Thank you. ; )

Maybe if enough conservatives get angry enough about this (which should make CONSERVATIVES angry and sadly it took Obama to get this out into the open when there should have been outrage over it in 2001 when it first started) you'll take back control of the Republican Party from the Neo-Consocialists who have been running it for the last 8 years. Instead though I'll predict that fear will prevent too many good, conservative Republican types from doing what must be done. Sadly too many would rather see a continuation of Neo-Consocialism than back up your beliefs.

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RE: "Spread the Wealth Around"...what this me... - 10/19/2008 7:40:56 AM   
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I think it shows Obama's socialistic bent. And that's the real story.

You can't live without socialism, and that has already been proven.

FreddieD


Do the Castro's know you have internet access and that you're talking with all these capitalists Freddie?

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RE: "Spread the Wealth Around"...what this me... - 10/19/2008 9:17:46 AM   
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There has been much hub-bub about Joe the Plumber but the telling thing about this episode is what Obama said... "Spread the Wealth Around" when a small businessman asked about his taxes.

Now I know there are lots of opinions on this matter but I'd like to ask what this term "Spread the Wealth Around" means to you.

I think it shows Obama's socialistic bent. And that's the real story.


It means redistribution of wealth. And it is the first time in his years of campaigning that Obama has let that slip out. Thinking people already knew it was socialism, but to hear it from the mans own mouth, makes it impossible for any to deny his intent.

Only in a world were the media majority is blinded by their own political ideology, could a presidential candidate be allowed to get away with calling a tax hike a tax cut.

If you think it's bad now, wait till you have a president who wears green tights and carries a bow and arrow, and I am not just talking about Obamas Halloween costume this year.

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RE: "Spread the Wealth Around"...what this me... - 10/19/2008 9:29:07 AM   
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I think greed plays into this equation also. As long as they are taking from someone else (+250,000) and giving to me then it is O.K. BUT if they should lower it to my income then it is not O.K. it then becomes "my money". The real question becomes who will see the reality of "spreading the wealth" vs. how it will affect me.

Personally do not take my money and spread it to someone else is socialism in its truest form. I also believe Joe the plumber was able to connect the avg. voter in a way that the politicians have not.
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RE: "Spread the Wealth Around"...what this me... - 10/19/2008 9:29:40 AM   
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It means redistribution of wealth. And it is the first time in his years of campaigning that Obama has let that slip out. Thinking people already knew it was socialism, but to hear it from the mans own mouth, makes it impossible for any to deny his intent.


Seems that his "slips of the tongue" have great implications. Makes me wonder even more about his "My muslim faith" slip.

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RE: "Spread the Wealth Around"...what this me... - 10/19/2008 9:36:59 AM   
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quote:

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It means redistribution of wealth. And it is the first time in his years of campaigning that Obama has let that slip out. Thinking people already knew it was socialism, but to hear it from the mans own mouth, makes it impossible for any to deny his intent.


Seems that his "slips of the tongue" have great implications. Makes me wonder even more about his "My muslim faith" slip.


I know what you mean. However, we get fussed at when we go there.

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RE: "Spread the Wealth Around"...what this me... - 10/19/2008 9:49:11 AM   
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It's straight out of the Communist Manifesto.

“From each, according to his ability; to each, according to his need”


Exactamundo!

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RE: "Spread the Wealth Around"...what this me... - 10/19/2008 10:08:32 AM   
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It means redistribution of wealth. And it is the first time in his years of campaigning that Obama has let that slip out. Thinking people already knew it was socialism, but to hear it from the mans own mouth, makes it impossible for any to deny his intent.


Seems that his "slips of the tongue" have great implications. Makes me wonder even more about his "My muslim faith" slip.


I know what you mean. However, we get fussed at when we go there.


Yep. I know what you mean. Apparently there is a double standard as the left can go where it wants with accusations and allegations. But, the right gets silenced as being intolerant, racist, homophobes, clinging to religion and guns, ignorant, rednecks, that need to shut up and drink the kool aid. Are the men in white suits coming yet?

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RE: "Spread the Wealth Around"...what this me... - 10/19/2008 10:16:51 AM   
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It means redistribution of wealth. And it is the first time in his years of campaigning that Obama has let that slip out. Thinking people already knew it was socialism, but to hear it from the mans own mouth, makes it impossible for any to deny his intent.


Seems that his "slips of the tongue" have great implications. Makes me wonder even more about his "My muslim faith" slip.


I know what you mean. However, we get fussed at when we go there.


Yep. I know what you mean. Apparently there is a double standard as the left can go where it wants with accusations and allegations. But, the right gets silenced as being intolerant, racist, homophobes, clinging to religion and guns, ignorant, rednecks, that need to shut up and drink the kool aid. Are the men in white suits coming yet?


I did post a you tube link to one of 0's speeches stating he wanted a national police force so they may be coming if he gets his way.

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RE: "Spread the Wealth Around"...what this me... - 10/19/2008 11:07:31 AM   
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It means redistribution of wealth. And it is the first time in his years of campaigning that Obama has let that slip out. Thinking people already knew it was socialism, but to hear it from the mans own mouth, makes it impossible for any to deny his intent.


Seems that his "slips of the tongue" have great implications. Makes me wonder even more about his "My muslim faith" slip.


I know what you mean. However, we get fussed at when we go there.


Yep. I know what you mean. Apparently there is a double standard as the left can go where it wants with accusations and allegations. But, the right gets silenced as being intolerant, racist, homophobes, clinging to religion and guns, ignorant, rednecks, that need to shut up and drink the kool aid. Are the men in white suits coming yet?


I did post a you tube link to one of 0's speeches stating he wanted a national police force so they may be coming if he gets his way.


Funny thing is, I'm a cop. I read an article in one of the police magazines that polled officers as to their picks for the presidential candidates. McCain was the overwhelming choice (over 85%) of the officers polled. Every cop I speak to about the election is fearful of an Obama administration. We (police officers) are government employees who tend to want less government. Let the government do the basic things it's suposed to do such as defense and infrastructure. Get out of social engineering and entitlement programs.

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RE: "Spread the Wealth Around"...what this me... - 10/19/2008 11:12:23 AM   
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That's a good thing to hear about LEO's. Here's the video again.

Obama civilian national security force. So I guess that this civilian national goon squad security force would be the enforcers to spread the wealth around.

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RE: "Spread the Wealth Around"...what this me... - 10/19/2008 11:24:08 AM   
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Obama is the first true liberal to run for president who is not ashamed of what he believes. I'll give him credit for that....

and take it back because the only way he can accomplish this feat is with a certain skin pigment.

If Obama was white, he could never get away with bieng a socialist candidate for president. No one else has in the last 30+ years.

The only other reason why Obama can be "out" is the hatred of Bush....and I think that is overblown...and hypocritical since Bush is more liberal than conservative....and he is not running against Obama.

Mondale? Dukakis? Kerry? Gore? All had more experience and leadership abilities than Obama. Clinton, the "great democrat" was a moderate...at best. How can Obama get away with it?

I don't think he can. I think his socialist agenda still falls on deaf ears to the majority of people in the USA. Class envy. Blame the other guy. Easy solutions. No plan.

Can liberalism really win? No.

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RE: "Spread the Wealth Around"...what this me... - 10/19/2008 11:30:53 AM   
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If Obama was white, he could never get away with bieng a socialist candidate for president. No one else has in the last 30+ years.


What about Gore? He disguised his socialism as environmentalism.

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RE: "Spread the Wealth Around"...what this me... - 10/19/2008 11:35:25 AM   
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Obama is the first true liberal to run for president who is not ashamed of what he believes. I'll give him credit for that....

and take it back because the only way he can accomplish this feat is with a certain skin pigment.

If Obama was white, he could never get away with bieng a socialist candidate for president. No one else has in the last 30+ years.

The only other reason why Obama can be "out" is the hatred of Bush....and I think that is overblown...and hypocritical since Bush is more liberal than conservative....and he is not running against Obama.

Mondale? Dukakis? Kerry? Gore? All had more experience and leadership abilities than Obama. Clinton, the "great democrat" was a moderate...at best. How can Obama get away with it?

I don't think he can. I think his socialist agenda still falls on deaf ears to the majority of people in the USA. Class envy. Blame the other guy. Easy solutions. No plan.

Can liberalism really win? No.


Excellent post! Great observations! But I have to disagree at the end - and I'd LOVE to be wrong but I'm the resident pessimist here, I guess. His socialist agenda doesn't fall on deaf ears - some Americans just don't get it and they're oblivious, some are liking this rhetoric that they think will benefit them, and a very small minority understand what is really happening here. I think it is working for him.

I think every CEO or anyone who employs other people in this country needs to send an open letter to all their employees explaining what will really happen if/when they get their taxes jacked up by Obama...they need to outline the options that leaves the company - none of which will be pretty for employees or consumers.
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