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2 things to expect in the first year of Barack Obama's ... - 11/6/2008 2:27:52 PM
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TheosCentric
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I posted this on my facebook, but thought I would post it here too.
1. The signing of the Freedom of Choice Act: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c108:S.2020:
This would effectively wipe out any restrictions on abortion and establish more of the government's control over state's rights. It's a sickening piece of legislation endorsed by people like Barbara Boxer and Hillary Clinton. Barack Obama has already stated this would be his first act as president to sign this.
2. The signing of the U.N. Convention on the Rights of the Child: http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu3/b/k2crc.htm
If the first is not deplorable enough, the second is just as deplorable. Madeline Albright already signed it when she worked under the Clinton administration. It is basically an international treaty, that if ratified by our Congress, would override national law. It basically says that the government knows more about what's best for our children than we do, including corporal punishment (i.e. spanking), and education (i.e. homeschooling). The signing of this would be disastrous for the families of America.
Let us pray that God would intervene and change Barack Obama's heart to not sign these three pieces of legislation.
P.S. A third was mentioned that could be this:
3. Possible passing of the fairness doctrine. I know this has resurged since Air America went under and would feel some sort of vengeance. However, it appears that President-elect Obama does not support the Fairness Doctrine. I'm having trouble finding some links on where Obama stands on this issue. Apparently in June, a spokesman for Obama said that he did not support it, calling it a distraction, but we know how politics work. Anyway, here's a link to the actual Fairness Doctrine itself. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairness_Doctrine
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RE: 2 things to expect in the first year of Barack Obam... - 11/6/2008 3:20:04 PM
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As for the Fairness doctrine it doesn't matter where he stands on it. Congress will pass it and he sure will sign it.
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RE: 2 things to expect in the first year of Barack Obam... - 11/6/2008 6:07:50 PM
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You forgot higher taxes....and, not just on "The Wealthy"...
By taxing companies more, EVERYONE will pay more for goods & services....
And, along the campaign trail, the "definition" of "wealthy" kept dropping....just because you're not "wealthy", don't think you're immune from a big tax hike.
Just got the latest issue of Forbes magazine in the mail last night (Nov. 17th issue)....obviously, printed before Obama's election, but, when it was clear that he was probably going to win.
The cover headline, "The Coming Shakedown: Forget the Promises. The government will grab lots more of YOUR money"
All this is speculation, though....as there is a decent amount of "opposition" from the other side of the aisle...to hopefully make Obama's agenda turn out to not quite as bad as it COULD be...(remember: we are SUPPOSED to work in a non-partisan, coming-together fashion....right? HA!...at least that's what THEY say)
local/state politics & policies also insulate, somewhat, from the damaging agenda Obama has planned....
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RE: 2 things to expect in the first year of Barack Obam... - 11/7/2008 8:45:34 AM
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I suppose I was focusing on mostly moral issues, but yes higher taxes for all.
We will pay more at retail.
We've already seen significant increases in the prices of dairy and produce because of the government's intervention into the ethanol market.
Also higher taxes will mean more job cuts, or pay cuts, or both.
I think the moral issues that I started off with more important, but there are other issues that I'm sure we can expect.
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RE: 2 things to expect in the first year of Barack Obam... - 11/7/2008 8:48:21 AM
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RE: 2 things to expect in the first year of Barack Obama's reign
1. Socialist economic policies
2. Leftist social policies
Doesn't get much more complicated than that.
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RE: 2 things to expect in the first year of Barack Obam... - 11/7/2008 8:51:51 AM
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lower standard of living for ALL Americans.
But I don't necessarily blame this on Obama. I blame it on the fact that we Americans mistook debt for propserity. Now that we have to repay that debt not only will our personal standard of living go back to where it should have been but it will have to swing back to where it must go inorder for us to pay off those debts.
Obama cannot stop that from happening. No matter what he tries to do. He can help it move along faster or slower but he cannot stop what "must" occur. Many people who voted for him are going to be very upset because he cannot and will not raise their standard of living.
So the one thing I am pretty sure is going to happen is that his base that voted for him because of the "change" he promised is going to be very upset with him when they realize the Change is going to be back to a lower standard of living then they currently have.
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RE: 2 things to expect in the first year of Barack Obam... - 11/7/2008 8:58:49 AM
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lower standard of living for ALL Americans.
But I don't necessarily blame this on Obama. I blame it on the fact that we Americans mistook debt for propserity. Now that we have to repay that debt not only will our personal standard of living go back to where it should have been but it will have to swing back to where it must go inorder for us to pay off those debts.
Obama cannot stop that from happening. No matter what he tries to do. He can help it move along faster or slower but he cannot stop what "must" occur. Many people who voted for him are going to be very upset because he cannot and will not raise their standard of living.
So the one thing I am pretty sure is going to happen is that his base that voted for him because of the "change" he promised is going to be very upset with him when they realize the Change is going to be back to a lower standard of living then they currently have.
Which is a very good point.
I can go 5 minutes down the road to someone's house who is living better than me, but they do not have a job, nor want a job. They are living of government handouts and credit cards.
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RE: 2 things to expect in the first year of Barack Obam... - 11/7/2008 9:54:08 AM
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The 2 things I expect -
A new New Deal
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Helping the neediest in a time of crisis, through expanded health and unemployment benefits, is the morally right thing to do; it’s also a far more effective form of economic stimulus than cutting the capital gains tax. Providing aid to beleaguered state and local governments, so that they can sustain essential public services, is important for those who depend on those services; it’s also a way to avoid job losses and limit the depth of the economy’s slump.
So a serious progressive agenda — call it a new New Deal — isn’t just economically possible, it’s exactly what the economy needs.
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Withdrawal from Iraq
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Many Iraqi leaders who initially favored Sen. John McCain of Arizona came to support Obama after the Democrat visited Iraq this summer because they realized their vision of the U.S. presence in Iraq was more in line with Obama's than McCain's.
A short P.S.
After reading THIS PART in the 2nd article, I'd say start pulling out of Iraq today -
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Iraq's chief spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh said American soldiers should be prosecuted in the Iraqi court system if they commit grave offenses outside their bases, unless they are on a joint mission with Iraqi troops. U.S. combat troops should cease operating unilaterally by June, Dabbagh said, and the status-of-forces agreement should say that the vast majority of U.S. troops must leave Iraq by the end of 2011.
"U.S. troops should be secluded to known camps," Dabbagh said. "The Americans would be called whenever there is a need. Their movement would be limited."
Very ungrateful and stupid people, they need to be left to their own devices as soon as possible with the understanding that we're not going back (even if they ask!).
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RE: 2 things to expect in the first year of Barack Obam... - 11/7/2008 10:01:24 AM
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Does anyone expect Obama to be tested as Joe said he would be?
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RE: 2 things to expect in the first year of Barack Obam... - 11/7/2008 10:16:39 AM
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Does anyone expect Obama to be tested as Joe said he would be?
China is already telling Obama "stop selling military equipment to Taiwan or else".
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RE: 2 things to expect in the first year of Barack Obam... - 11/7/2008 10:30:51 AM
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Does anyone expect Obama to be tested as Joe said he would be?
China is already telling Obama "stop selling military equipment to Taiwan or else".
And Russia is moving missiles to its western borders - announced the day after the election.
-Robb
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RE: 2 things to expect in the first year of Barack Obam... - 11/7/2008 10:39:49 AM
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So the one thing I am pretty sure is going to happen is that his base that voted for him because of the "change" he promised is going to be very upset with him when they realize the Change is going to be back to a lower standard of living then they currently have.
So far we have his campaign workers complaining they are not getting payed or getting payed half instead of whole.
will past be prologue?
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RE: 2 things to expect in the first year of Barack Obam... - 11/7/2008 10:41:26 AM
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Withdrawal from Iraq
I to belive we are gonna withdraw from Iraq. The problem with that though is I think people who voted for him based on the war are gonna be ticked off when they find out that those troops are going to Afghanistan.
PW, Very good points and like most of the time you are spot on!
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RE: 2 things to expect in the first year of Barack Obam... - 11/7/2008 10:56:16 AM
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Does anyone expect Obama to be tested as Joe said he would be?
China is already telling Obama "stop selling military equipment to Taiwan or else".
And Russia is moving missiles to its western borders - announced the day after the election.
-Robb
and making it known that they will move missles to Polish border if U.S. pursues missle defence deployment. So the ball is in BOs court before he even gets on the court.
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RE: 2 things to expect in the first year of Barack Obam... - 11/7/2008 11:04:22 AM
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Very ungrateful and stupid people, they need to be left to their own devices as soon as possible with the understanding that we're not going back (even if they ask!).
You simple, insulting, myopic , silly ole bear...
MS. GILLY: I would like to say that the American people will realize this is not just a war. This is an act of liberation. This is an act of saving lives, maybe millions of lives. And I hope they see it this way rather than this is just a war of where bombs will be dropped. This is a war where people's lives will be changed tremendously and I think it's to the advantage of the American Government to have a democratic Iraq, a free Iraq. It's just -- it's one less tyrant, tyrant, tyrant, that's in the world. The world will be free of one less tyrant and it's, this is not only going to be good for the Iraqi people. Of course, we love to see, you know, I love to see my free, my Iraqi people, but I also like to see my American people be free of the danger that this horrible man poses.
dare I include LIV?
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RE: 2 things to expect in the first year of Barack Obam... - 11/7/2008 11:04:28 AM
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Withdrawal from Iraq
I to belive we are gonna withdraw from Iraq. The problem with that though is I think people who voted for him based on the war are gonna be ticked off when they find out that those troops are going to Afghanistan.
Read what is on the Office of President-Elect website on Iraq.
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RE: 2 things to expect in the first year of Barack Obam... - 11/7/2008 11:12:52 AM
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Withdrawal from Iraq
I to belive we are gonna withdraw from Iraq. The problem with that though is I think people who voted for him based on the war are gonna be ticked off when they find out that those troops are going to Afghanistan.
Read what is on the Office of President-Elect website on Iraq.
That residual force is going to be quite a blow to many anti-war supporters who thought it would be total withdrawal. It's size, I'm sure, will not be skimpy.
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RE: 2 things to expect in the first year of Barack Obam... - 11/7/2008 11:50:13 AM
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The Russian missiles will be a test for Obama. It remains to be seen whether he'll simply back down and cancel the missile shield plans (weakness), proceed with them and ignore the Russians (arrogance), or proceed with them but negotiate with the Russians from a position of strength on a mutually beneficial resolution that doesn't leave the former Eastern Bloc nations wide open to attack (wisdom). He has already made his position clear on his opposition to "space defenses" or however he phrased it. That leaves weakness shown as the option, just as the Israelis are telling him he'd show in having negotiations with Iran after sanctions have already been put in place.
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RE: 2 things to expect in the first year of Barack Obam... - 11/7/2008 11:59:21 AM
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1. More dead babies than ever before. At least, if Obama keeps his word and signs the FOCA as his first act of president. Oh wait, I forgot what liar the man is, so this may be an unreasonable #1 choice.
2. Disastrous liberal judicial appointments that will guarantee a perversion of justice for decades to come (if we even last that long)
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RE: 2 things to expect in the first year of Barack Obam... - 11/7/2008 12:20:17 PM
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China is already telling Obama "stop selling military equipment to Taiwan or else".
Can't find anything on China threating Obama on this.
Just this - 09/29/08
Got a link for an Obama threat?
China, Obama and Taiwan
BEIJING (Reuters) - China said on Thursday the proper handling of the "Taiwan issue" was key to good relations between Beijing and the United States, and urged U.S. President-elect Barack Obama to halt arms sales to the self-ruled island.
This was two days after the election.
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