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Boy in Striped Pajamas - 11/6/2008 4:04:32 PM
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OneOfHisJewels
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I just clicked on the banner ad up there and read a synopsis of the movie..just the sypnosis of the movie had me bawling..just think what the movie will do! I can't wait to see it. I think it will be a very moving story.
It reminds me of a Chicken Soup for the Soul story that I read once. It was a true story about a little boy in a concentration camp, and every day, a little girl from the outside would bring him an apple and talk to him. Eventually, after the war, and after he became an adult, the little boy moved to the United States..he was single and was set up on a blind date...he and his date were both immigrants, and both began chatting about the war..he told her about a little girl that brought him an apple every day..she told him about a little boy that she brought apples too. They realized they were the same little boy and girl from the war. They got marrried...and many years after they were married they shared their story on Valentine's Day on the Oprah Winfrey show. I always thought that story would make a good movie (or play).
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RE: Boy in Striped Pajamas - 11/6/2008 9:03:41 PM
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I might actually have to see this one (once it's rentable), or just read the book I suppose. It looks quite interesting.
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RE: Boy in Striped Pajamas - 11/7/2008 2:59:20 AM
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I too just clicked on it and watched the trailer - then I went searching to read more about the book. I found this article. I guess I never thought of it this way. Especially when I read the last paragraph of the review. Its good to have movies that make us think - but we need to remember the truth of the matter, I am not sure if I will still see it. But if I do, I will want to keep this article in mind.
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RE: Boy in Striped Pajamas - 11/7/2008 8:56:31 AM
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Wow. That's about all I can say after reading that article. Thank you for posting that link. I honestly would never have looked at the story that way.
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RE: Boy in Striped Pajamas - 11/7/2008 9:54:50 AM
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Wow. That's about all I can say after reading that article. Thank you for posting that link. I honestly would never have looked at the story that way.
May I ask how else you would think of it then? I don't see a way to look at it other than how the article said, though I still think it will be interesting. Figure it'll kind of be like the Sound of Music.
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RE: Boy in Striped Pajamas - 11/7/2008 10:26:12 AM
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May I ask how else you would think of it then? I would have taken it at surface value, a story about 2 kids who meet in very odd circumstances. While I'm aware of the camps as a historical fact, I haven't ever looked any deeper as the whole story is so repulsive. I saw films taken during the liberation of the camps when I was in high school and that was more than enough information for me.
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RE: Boy in Striped Pajamas - 11/7/2008 11:03:07 AM
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My Auschwitz friend read the book at my urging. He wept, and begged me tell everyone that this book is not just a lie and not just a fairytale, but a profanation. No one may dare alter the truths of the Holocaust, no matter how noble his motives. from the above referenced article.
Based on that article, I am saddened that the book is required reading at high schools. There are so many historically accurate accounts of the camps that they can read. I really think that the book and the movie are part of the "rewriting of history" in our nation. In generations to come this will be used as the arguement for those who think the holocaust didn't happen. That it was "made up" by the Jews.
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RE: Boy in Striped Pajamas - 11/7/2008 1:25:14 PM
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Wow, thanks, gigigirl..I hadn't thought about it like that..a better movie would have been the one about the couple in my op, as it was a true story..but the little girl was probably well aware of the realities, and very careful however, they did somehow manage to communicate through the fence, so that part is possible, I guess (although dangerous)..it would have been nice to do extensive interviews of them and do a movie about their life.
Yes, the Sound of Music is very different from the story it is actually based on..after I read the book, I liked the movie a lot less.
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RE: Boy in Striped Pajamas - 11/7/2008 1:26:18 PM
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Based on that article, I am saddened that the book is required reading at high schools. There are so many historically accurate accounts of the camps that they can read. I really think that the book and the movie are part of the "rewriting of history" in our nation. In generations to come this will be used as the arguement for those who think the holocaust didn't happen. That it was "made up" by the Jews.
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Yes, the could read The Hiding Place or The Diary of Anne Frank, or the like, instead. And it wasn't JUST jews that were persecuted. Many many christians were put to death as well.
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RE: Boy in Striped Pajamas - 11/7/2008 1:43:30 PM
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I too just clicked on it and watched the trailer - then I went searching to read more about the book. I found this article. I guess I never thought of it this way. Especially when I read the last paragraph of the review. Its good to have movies that make us think - but we need to remember the truth of the matter, I am not sure if I will still see it. But if I do, I will want to keep this article in mind.
I haven't read the book or seen anything on the movie, so I really don't have an opinion one way or the other. However, I do disagree with the premises made by the author of this review that no one (not even a nine year old boy) could have misunderstood the tragedy of the holocaust. Children really do not grasp the realities of the world the way adults do, and they often miss the ugliness that the rest of us see in the world around us. Even as I look at my own life, I realize how truly clueless I was at nine to the realities of evil in the world around me, but in retrospect, I now understand what I did not understand as a child. I don't think it is reasonable for anyone to expect that a nine year old truly grasp the realities of the world around him.
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RE: Boy in Striped Pajamas - 11/8/2008 7:33:05 AM
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My daughter (12 years old, 7th grade) read the book this quarter for school. We watched the movie trailer together on cable and plan on going to see the movie when it comes out. She "gets" that not everything in the book or move is factual (after all, she's known the difference between fiction and non-fiction since around 1st grade), but is now more interested in that era of history than she was before - even the very ugly parts. If it helps her see beyond her normal realm of life (texting friends, playing softball, youth choir, etc.) then I view that as a positive.
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RE: Boy in Striped Pajamas - 11/8/2008 11:47:52 PM
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Children really do not grasp the realities of the world the way adults do, and they often miss the ugliness that the rest of us see in the world around us.
I do understand what you mean. Its just that the author pointed out so many things that I had not thought of - and then I looked up. The idea that a nine year old at the camp most likely would not be alive. The idea of the smell for miles around. (In the city I live in, the south side is where one of water processing plants sits. And you cannot miss the smell in that area.)
I wanted to find out what people were saying about the film when it came to Bruno. I came across this review. Please be aware there are things this reviewer says that somewhat reveal the movie points. This is the statement.
"Bruno is carefully indoctrinated so he is oblivious to anything grotesque or monstrous. Even once he has gotten to know Shmuel, he still doesn't grasp the horror of what is transpiring within Auschwitz."
The idea that he is being carefully indoctrinated caused me to pause - would a child in this situation with that parent most likely be indoctrinated? Especially in the other ways the reviewer talked about? This is not like a child who does not understand the realities of this world. And even though I understand what you meant, I think children understand a lot more than what we give them credit for... But propaganda can be a very powerful tool.
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RE: Boy in Striped Pajamas - 11/10/2008 9:49:07 AM
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I have read this book, and have no desire to see the movie. I agree with the premise that a 9 year old boy might not have know, because 9 year olds do live in their little world. However, I find it hard to believe, as the author would like you to, that the atrocities of the camp could not be seen or heard through the fence. I will not tell you the ending, unless you pm and ask me, but all-together is was a very sad and bleak book.
In my personal opinion, this book is required reading in schools because much of what is taught in history is watered-down; a few facts mixed in with much opinion. Some liberal historians and teachers today would like to dismiss the fact that the holocaust even happened, even though there are countless eyewitnesses and pieces of evidence. Why? Because to admit that it happened would point to the evil nature of man, and the failures of socialistic and communistic ideas.
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RE: Boy in Striped Pajamas - 11/10/2008 11:57:48 AM
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i read the book... can't wait for the movie!
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