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Few going to heaven - 6/13/2008 5:43:19 AM
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whatislove
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I saw this video on youtube called "Will you make it to heaven". I always thought that not too many people were going to heaven. After I watched that, i'm now realizing that it's fewer than I thought.
Thoughts, opinions?
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RE: Few going to heaven - 6/13/2008 6:52:15 AM
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Walker311
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Really! I heard there are so many going to heaven God is having to bust down a couple more golden walls to make room. Lazarus had to move from his 2 story mansion to a one story... and so on.
Utube ain't all that!
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RE: Few going to heaven - 6/13/2008 7:28:58 AM
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When describing Heaven Jesus said: In my Father's house there are many rooms.
So He probably expects many people there! Also, He will keep every denomination in a separate room to stop them arguing as to who "got it right".
He knows we mean well really - even though we waste a lot of time arguing about details.
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RE: Few going to heaven - 6/13/2008 11:43:11 AM
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Matthew 7: 13 "Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. 14 For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few.
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RE: Few going to heaven - 6/13/2008 11:55:17 AM
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21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?' 23 And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'" -Matthew 7
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He knows we mean well really
What's that old expression? "The road to hell is paved with good intentions"....or something like that! 
Edited to add something I left out! 
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RE: Few going to heaven - 6/13/2008 7:13:18 PM
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quote:
ORIGINAL: whatislove
I saw this video on youtube called "Will you make it to heaven". I always thought that not too many people were going to heaven. After I watched that, i'm now realizing that it's fewer than I thought.
Thoughts, opinions?
You are so right. The Bible says, 'Enter in at the straight gate, for broad is the way that leadeth to destruction and many there be that go in thereat. Because straight is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life and few there be that find it.. Matthew 7.
So only a few shall make it in. I enjoyed this topic.
I just noticed someone else has posted the same scripture. Sorry about that. Also, remember, Jesus told the disciples, 'unless those day be shortened, there shall no flesh be saved.'
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RE: Few going to heaven - 6/13/2008 7:22:07 PM
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(Mat 7:21) Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
(Mat 7:22) Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
(Mat 7:23) And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Jesus says here that "Many" who are really sure they are going to Heaven will be rejected.
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RE: Few going to heaven - 6/13/2008 7:42:04 PM
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It seems to me that the best way to make sure that you're not one of the ones rejected at the pearly gates is to focus on Jesus and not on the question of "will I get to heaven or not". Ask Jesus to be your Lord and Savior. Once He is, your life will reflect the change. If your life hasn't reflected the change, you might sit around wondering, "Am I going to heaven?"
If your life has reflected the change, you will likely know that you are, and you'll be about telling everyone about Jesus so they can go too.
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RE: Few going to heaven - 6/13/2008 8:06:00 PM
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While I totally agree that few, not many, are going to be saved just as the Bible says, the "Will you make it to heaven" video has overlooked some things in trying to conclude a percentage based solely on 'catastrophic' Biblical events.
In looking at the flood and destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, people had been growing increasingly worse and worse over the years and obviously this reached a breaking point. What we don't know is how many faithful believers died in the decades or centuries leading up to those events - before the breaking point - and hence were saved. Also, Sodom and Gomorrah weren't the only cities on the planet at the time, so we don't know how many people living outside of Sodom and Gomorrah were saved.
Same thing with the Second Coming. I agree that on that spectacular day very few will be saved - Christ even asks if He will find faith on the earth - but there are Christians who have died, are dying, and will die right up until that event.
Just something to keep in mind. In the end, none of us know the number or percentage of those going to heaven. All we can do is continue in Christ and follow His word.
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RE: Few going to heaven - 6/13/2008 8:07:59 PM
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New Jerusalem will be big enough to house 20 billion people...with three acres each.
Since those times could be millions of years from now, the number in hevaen could even be billions....but the percentage will be low.
Think of how many people have died since creation. Even a low percentage of them would be quite a few people.
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RE: Few going to heaven - 6/13/2008 8:08:30 PM
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Well said lw9! (and good to see you again!)
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RE: Few going to heaven - 6/13/2008 8:10:16 PM
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As always, it's good to see you too, armydude!!! 
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RE: Few going to heaven - 6/13/2008 8:11:26 PM
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I believe in Matthew 24 when Jesus is answering the disciples question about the end of the age, he says that two will be working in the field and one will be taken away; two will be working in the kitchen and one will be taken away. I believe this is a picture of the "church" (those who attend anyway) that only about half of us actually have trusted Christ as our LORD and Savior. People tend to forget Romans 10:9 that says we are to confess (meaning that we see it as God does) Jesus as Lord. The old song says, "If He's not Lord of everything, then He's not Lord at all." That's a tough pill to swallow, but it's true.
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RE: Few going to heaven - 6/14/2008 10:07:48 PM
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quote:
ORIGINAL: mvic
When describing Heaven Jesus said: In my Father's house there are many rooms.
So He probably expects many people there! Also, He will keep every denomination in a separate room to stop them arguing as to who "got it right".
I believe that there will be many in Heaven, but I don't believe that there will be any denominations in Heaven-- there will only be Christians.
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RE: Few going to heaven - 7/3/2008 7:15:05 AM
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The number will probably surprisingly small. Jesus testifies to that fact in Matthew 7:13-14, 21-23. Isaiah prophesied of it in chapter 6 verses 12-13.
There are many myths surrounding the question of what qualifies a person to get into heaven. But the Bible is very plain on this. Here is a portion of my new book, Christian Mythology that discusses this issue:
Revelation 20:11 “And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.”
I have never heard this fact preached. Nevertheless, it is a fact for God has written it. The only qualification necessary for people to go to hell is that their names are not written in the book of life. That is the evidence required at the final judgment. The judgment against people based on their works only determines the magnitude of their sentence. The only two things that are not changeable in the sentence are these: whosoever is not found written in the book of life goes to hell and they go there for eternity. The judgment of works only determines what kind of specific punishments the person will endure.
This chapter was written about hell. But one must understand both heaven and hell from God's point of view in order to understand it at all. Read the above again in its converse to see the heavenly vantage point. The only qualification for people to go to heaven is that their names are written in the Book of Life. Period. How does this transpire? That's another set of myths to discuss.
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RE: Few going to heaven - 7/3/2008 9:31:16 AM
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I agree, when the bible says few will find the narrow gate it means just that. Also the parable of the soils show that out of the four soils, only 1 grows anything useful to God. Having said all that though, im sure there will be great number in heaven even if it is only a fraction of those who have ever lived that are saved.
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RE: Few going to heaven - 7/3/2008 12:31:44 PM
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And yet you folks have managed to overlook a key section of the Book of Revelation, wherein it talks about .. "a number which no man could count, coming out of the Great Tribulation, having their robes washed in the Blood of the Lamb."
A number without count doesn't sound all that few to me.
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RE: Few going to heaven - 7/3/2008 3:15:27 PM
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And yet you folks have managed to overlook a key section of the Book of Revelation, wherein it talks about .. "a number which no man could count, coming out of the Great Tribulation, having their robes washed in the Blood of the Lamb."
A number without count doesn't sound all that few to me.
I could go to NYC and not be able to count everybody, but the population of NYC is only a fraction of the total amount of people alive today.
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RE: Few going to heaven - 7/4/2008 9:43:35 AM
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We should be clear on who Jesus is referring to when He talks about "not everybody who says Lord, Lord will enter the kingdom of heaven." The Sheep and the Goats
34"Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.'
37"Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?'
40"The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.'
41"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.'
44"They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?'
45"He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.'
46"Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal
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Strive to enter in at the strait gate: - 7/4/2008 11:21:25 PM
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I saw this video on youtube called "Will you make it to heaven". I always thought that not too many people were going to heaven. After I watched that, i'm now realizing that it's fewer than I thought.
Thoughts, opinions?
When I read you this is what come to my mind!
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And he went through the cities and villages, teaching, and journeying toward Jerusalem. Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them, Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out. And they shall come from the east, and from the west, and from the north, and from the south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God. And, behold, there are last which shall be first, and there are first which shall be last. Luke 13, 22-30
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RE: Few going to heaven - 7/6/2008 3:55:54 AM
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I recently did an exegetical word study on Matt. 7:13,14. It wasn't just that the path of one was wide and the other one narrow; but also that the path to destruction is the easy (wide and flat) way whereas the path that leads to life is full of obstacles and suffering.
Now that may not seem to make a lot of difference as far as the question at hand, but I think that the emphasis in what Jesus was saying was not so much to give some kind of "inside information" about the numbers of those going to heaven as opposed to those not going. I think that the point is that the path of least resistance - the easy path - is what we do by nature. It's our "default setting" if you would. And Jesus was admonishing His disciples not to act according to their default setting, but to take the higher path.
Choosing the right path can apply to the overall picture, but I think that it applies in situations in every day life as well. Recently I posted my opinion about something that different people were stating varying views about, and I guess what I had to say rubbed a guy the wrong way. He responded by questioning the genuineness of my Christianity, judging my motives and insulting my intelligence. Well naturally my first instinct was to post a sharply worded response. But that's the place where the Holy Spirit came in and said, "Don't attack back. Forgive." Which goes against my stubborn, rebellious and sinful nature. I couldn't be led by my own instinct and be led by the Holy Spirit at the same time because the two were saying different things. But being led by my own nature - my default setting - would have worked death in the situation and not life.
The thief on the cross spent a lifetime making wrong choices, but he came to repentance in the end. And the Lord accepted his repentance. So even though he had been walking that wide road all of his life, we have to account for God's mercy. I don't think we can really answer the question posed by this thread - it's God's question to answer. The important thing is that God is willing that none should perish but that all should come to repentance... and that's what I believe we have to look at, and reach the lost for Him.
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