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Is Obama a type of Joseph - 11/10/2008 2:27:55 AM
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chaplainwinston
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Joseph was sold into slavery, rose to be governor of Egypt, and Pharaoh called him savior of the world because of his economic policies. With Obama it is generational as we are looking to him to save America with his economic policies. Joseph is not to be confused with Jesus Savior of the world, our souls.
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RE: Is Obama a type of Joseph - 11/10/2008 8:19:31 AM
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Wow, I must have missed the part where Obama was sold into slavery!
And as far as looking to him to save America, I am just praying that he does not totally destroy this place and usher in God's judgment for this nation becoming like Sodom.
As far as comparing Obama to a Biblical figure I look more to;
(2Co 11:13) For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
(2Co 11:14) And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
(2Co 11:15) Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
But that might just be me.
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RE: Is Obama a type of Joseph - 11/10/2008 12:56:28 PM
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Wow, I must have missed the part where Obama was sold into slavery!
And as far as looking to him to save America, I am just praying that he does not totally destroy this place and usher in God's judgment for this nation becoming like Sodom.
As far as comparing Obama to a Biblical figure I look more to;
(2Co 11:13) For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
(2Co 11:14) And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
(2Co 11:15) Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
But that might just be me.
Thanks
RC
That makes two of us.
Obama in no way fits any of the descriptions accredited to him.
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RE: Is Obama a type of Joseph - 11/10/2008 1:25:28 PM
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ORIGINAL: rcjames
Wow, I must have missed the part where Obama was sold into slavery!
And as far as looking to him to save America, I am just praying that he does not totally destroy this place and usher in God's judgment for this nation becoming like Sodom.
As far as comparing Obama to a Biblical figure I look more to;
(2Co 11:13) For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
(2Co 11:14) And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
(2Co 11:15) Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
But that might just be me.
Thanks
RC
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RE: Is Obama a type of Joseph - 11/10/2008 2:05:57 PM
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Moving from Theo House to Election 2008.
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RE: Is Obama a type of Joseph - 11/10/2008 2:21:56 PM
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Joseph was sold into slavery, rose to be governor of Egypt, and Pharaoh called him savior of the world because of his economic policies. With Obama it is generational as we are looking to him to save America with his economic policies. Joseph is not to be confused with Jesus Savior of the world, our souls.
In a word: NO!
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RE: Is Obama a type of Joseph - 11/10/2008 2:34:03 PM
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karlie
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we are looking to him to save America with his economic policies
WE are not looking to Obama to save the world. You and others may be, but I certainly don't consider him to be a savior of America in any way, shape, or form.  I consider him quite the opposite.
No, I don't see Obama as a Joseph, or as any other God-seeking, God-fearing character of the Bible.
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RE: Is Obama a type of Joseph - 11/10/2008 2:35:39 PM
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Well, when he says "I had a dream" he might inch closer ;)
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RE: Is Obama a type of Joseph - 11/10/2008 2:39:40 PM
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I'd associate him more closely with pharoah. Trying to steal all our increase by "spreading the wealth around"
Any economic policies he has are likely to be disasterous unless he cuts taxes for everyone, cuts the size of government, gets the government out of our business etc. But if he did that stuff he'd no longer be obama.
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RE: Is Obama a type of Joseph - 11/10/2008 8:45:10 PM
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No, sorry, chaplain, I don't see him as a Joseph b/c God's hand was on Joseph. God's hand isn't on Obama, he's on his own. So no. sorry. Good try, though. :) And I doubt he'll save America with his economic plans.
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Joseph was sold into slavery, rose to be governor of Egypt, and Pharaoh called him savior of the world because of his economic policies. With Obama it is generational as we are looking to him to save America with his economic policies. Joseph is not to be confused with Jesus Savior of the world, our souls.
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RE: Is Obama a type of Joseph - 11/10/2008 8:47:08 PM
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Dancre
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Oh, come on, gang. Give the little Obamaite credit for at least trying. At least he didn't say Obama was the savior. That's a relief.
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RE: Is Obama a type of Joseph - 11/10/2008 9:16:03 PM
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Thank you for all your responses. Obama's father married a white women so his linage goes back to American slavery. I said he was a type of Joseph, that means like or similar not exactly. I like to think we are one people in America, one nation under God. The rest of the world is under God also, Jesus reigns! Many Church people identify themselves and others with people of the Bible and not always as Anti-Christs. We think of ourselves as Christ like, there is only one Jesus. Presidents are sometime denoted as the Anti-Christ because they are world leaders and we expect the Anti-Christ to be one.
If you have studied Joseph you can see some similarities: his brothers sold him into slavery, Africans were sold into slavery or stolen. It took generations but an African-American whose roots contain slavery rose to the highest office in the land, so did Joseph. Joseph was under Pharaoh, Obama is under by the people, for the people and of the people. And as someone pointed out Joseph saved his people.
Well our President elect represent one people, Americans. He brings a lot of hope which we need and is Biblical. Faith is the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things not seen. Let us all pray and hope for the best.
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RE: Is Obama a type of Joseph - 11/10/2008 9:30:37 PM
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ta_mosquito
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Obama's father married a white women so his linage goes back to American slavery.
I don't understand this part at all. Obama's father was Kenyan, hence no connection with American slavery. His mom was white, and unless she has slave owners in her ancestry, has no connection with American slavery, either. Care to elaborate?
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RE: Is Obama a type of Joseph - 11/10/2008 9:44:04 PM
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leonfigg3
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I am beginning to wonder if all of this glorification and saintification of Obama may be some sort of evidence of a great deal of insecurity and doubt by many of Obama's supporters.
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RE: Is Obama a type of Joseph - 11/10/2008 9:44:15 PM
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chaplainwinston
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Sure and I don't think this is a stretch. There are no pure ethinic groups in America. At one time if you had one sixteenth African you were considered African. Being African his father has ancestors that were slaves. That is why reperations won't work, even some white people could collect. Kenyan claims him as a first generation American and one of their own. They made November 5 a holiday in his honor. I'm humbled.
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RE: Is Obama a type of Joseph - 11/10/2008 9:46:07 PM
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I like to think we are one people in America, one nation under God. The rest of the world is under God also,
You're joking, right?
We are a nation that is OK with slaughtering babies in the womb.
We are a nation that is moving toward gay marriage. Surely an abomination according to God's word.
We are a nation that tells us we should embrace and "tolerate" all religions. NOT claim Jesus as the ONLY one.
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RE: Is Obama a type of Joseph - 11/10/2008 9:49:30 PM
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LivingParadox
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Nope, I can't say I see any connection from Obama that even remotely resembles Joseph.
btw, on the slavery issue -- did you know there is more slavery, human trafficing going on in the world TODAY than any other time? Do you think Obama and his ties to slavery will do something about those injustices?
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RE: Is Obama a type of Joseph - 11/10/2008 10:00:45 PM
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chaplainwinston
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Sinners and saints, the saved and the unsaved are all under God. We are all waiting for judgment day. That is when God's judgment is met. In the mean time we have to deal with it.
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RE: Is Obama a type of Joseph - 11/10/2008 10:04:10 PM
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I'm sorry, I was trying to figure all you guys out, but now you're all starting to just sound like Yoda.
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RE: Is Obama a type of Joseph - 11/10/2008 10:05:41 PM
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ta_mosquito
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Being African his father has ancestors that were slaves.
Not direct ancestors.
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RE: Is Obama a type of Joseph - 11/10/2008 10:13:31 PM
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Wild-Rose
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Sinners and saints, the saved and the unsaved are all under God. We are all waiting for judgment day. That is when God's judgment is met. In the mean time we have to deal with it.
We all have to deal with what? What are you talking about?
Read Romans 8 and also First John, chapter one. There are some who are children of God and some who are not. We are assured of our salvation. We don't have to wait for Judgment Day to find out.
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