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Jennifer Hudson - Could she not have done something to ... - 10/28/2008 12:30:54 PM
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wareaglekd
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This is purely for discussion, not something to get bent out of the frame about. I know it's probably not best to draw a foregone conclusion based on a couple of people, but it did give me something to think about. Last weekend, we saw Barack Obama walking through the neighborhood where his grandmother lives. Now, we see pictures of a terrible crime in a terrible neighborhood in Chicago. Could this have been prevented by those in the family that could afford it? In other words, Jennifer could have moved them out of that neighborhood w/ the millions she is making & this possibly could have been avoided (maybe not, if it is determined domestic). Why does Barack Obama's grandmother live in what appears to be a somewhat run down neighborhood? Could he put her up in something better in Hawaii?
It just perked my interest for this reason. In Alabama, most blacks, primarily athletes, go out of their way to make sure their families are moved out of their bad neighborhoods & put into nice homes & well protected. From what I've heard, it seems to be one of the first things they do once they get established in pro sports.
So, is this cultural thing? Would this only be common in the south & not in the north? I don't mean to start an argument w/ this, I was just curious about it.
Yes, I'm not sure if it falls in the Music forum either. Didn't know where else to put it. kd
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RE: Jennifer Hudson - Could she not have done something... - 10/28/2008 12:39:57 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if she had tried to get them to move only to be told no. A lot of people don't want to leave the neighborhood they grew up in even if it's dangerous. A friend's grandfather still lives on the house he grew up in in Newark, NJ, which is second in the state in violent crime. They've offered to buy him a home, move him in with them, move him into a senior's complex. All of which got a big "No, I'm not moving."
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RE: Jennifer Hudson - Could she not have done something... - 10/28/2008 1:26:41 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if she had tried to get them to move only to be told no. A lot of people don't want to leave the neighborhood they grew up in even if it's dangerous. A friend's grandfather still lives on the house he grew up in in Newark, NJ, which is second in the state in violent crime. They've offered to buy him a home, move him in with them, move him into a senior's complex. All of which got a big "No, I'm not moving."
I beleive this to be the case. It is my understanding that Hudsons mother wanted to stay where she was. What a tragic story this has developed into though. It was already bad enough that her mom and brother were killed. I guess we were all holding out hope that the little boy would be ok, but evil knows no bounds.
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RE: Jennifer Hudson - Could she not have done something... - 10/28/2008 3:29:24 PM
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My parents still live in the same barrio in LA I grew up in. There is grafitti, gangs and crime all around but they've lived in that house for 48 years. It makes it hard for them to move even though they could sell their house buy a small condo and have enough money left to live on for twenty years without Soc Sec or my dad's pension.
A friend and neighbor of theirs who owned an Italian restaurant in town was killed in his house but they refuse to leave.
Don't ask me why they haven't left? I was glad to get out of that neighborhood!
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RE: Jennifer Hudson - Could she not have done something... - 10/29/2008 1:25:37 AM
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This is purely for discussion, not something to get bent out of the frame about. I know it's probably not best to draw a foregone conclusion based on a couple of people, but it did give me something to think about. Last weekend, we saw Barack Obama walking through the neighborhood where his grandmother lives. Now, we see pictures of a terrible crime in a terrible neighborhood in Chicago. Could this have been prevented by those in the family that could afford it? In other words, Jennifer could have moved them out of that neighborhood w/ the millions she is making & this possibly could have been avoided (maybe not, if it is determined domestic). Why does Barack Obama's grandmother live in what appears to be a somewhat run down neighborhood? Could he put her up in something better in Hawaii?
It just perked my interest for this reason. In Alabama, most blacks, primarily athletes, go out of their way to make sure their families are moved out of their bad neighborhoods & put into nice homes & well protected. From what I've heard, it seems to be one of the first things they do once they get established in pro sports.
So, is this cultural thing? Would this only be common in the south & not in the north? I don't mean to start an argument w/ this, I was just curious about it.
Yes, I'm not sure if it falls in the Music forum either. Didn't know where else to put it. kd
From what I'm reading, it sound like you are blaming Jennifer for the deaths, which is very, very unfair. She was not involved in a abusive relationship, but her sister made that choice to be involved. Had she gotten out, lives would have been saved.
How could you post a thing like this?
Secondly, it was not Jennifer who did not marry Balfore, but it was her sister. Her sister made a choice to have a relationship with this man, who is on his way to a murder charge, not Jennifer.
Third, Jennifer told her relatives, even encouraged them to move out of the neigborhood various times. You can tell people when they are blue in the face that they need to move, but was the choice of Hudson's relatives not to move out of the area.
If you want to lay blame, it should have been on her sister. She made a bad choice and bad choices bring consequences, including endangering her family members.
This should be a wake up call for those who are stuck in bad relationships and don't know how to get out.
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RE: Jennifer Hudson - Could she not have done something... - 10/29/2008 9:01:11 AM
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This is purely for discussion, not something to get bent out of the frame about. Gayle, did you read this part? Now you've got your knickers all in a twist for no good reason. He's merely asking what millions of others have also asked. Sounds to me like you picked here to vent about what you've been hearing all over.
And nobody has laid any blame anywhere in this thread. Except you. In fact, all of the other posts in the thread are in support of Jennifer. Relax, take a deep breath, and let the anger go.
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RE: Jennifer Hudson - Could she not have done something... - 10/29/2008 9:29:49 AM
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Thanks uncabeeil, I appreciate it. All I'm doing is looking at contrasts & comparisons between superstars of the south & the north. It is common to find out very quickly after rise in fame of these sort of things in Alabama. I know for a fact Bo Jackson made sure his mom was set up well. Having grown up in crime infested Bessemer, it was very important to him to take care of her.
I'm just wondering what the first thing is when people from places like this are able to make their rise (living somewhere other in Alabama) considers those things. That is what I want the discussion to be on. Tell me about professionals & stars in your states & what they are doing to support their families. That's all I'm curious about. There's no real finger pointing here at Jennifer or Obama, just curiosity. kd
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RE: Jennifer Hudson - Could she not have done something... - 10/30/2008 10:19:56 PM
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This is purely for discussion, not something to get bent out of the frame about. Gayle, did you read this part? Now you've got your knickers all in a twist for no good reason. He's merely asking what millions of others have also asked. Sounds to me like you picked here to vent about what you've been hearing all over.
And nobody has laid any blame anywhere in this thread. Except you. In fact, all of the other posts in the thread are in support of Jennifer. Relax, take a deep breath, and let the anger go.
But based on the OP and the starting sentence, it sounded like that because of Jennifer's celebrity, it sounded like if she would have been there, the killings would have not happened and she was to blame because of maybe accuations that she did not care for her family, which I believed she did. She loved them and wanted the best for them, and it was not all about her. She did put her family first and she told them they need to get out of the neighborhood, but they chosen to stay there.
I'm sorry if I came across and making peoplebeing bent out of shape, however, I will stand by my comments. And the best thing for everyone is to pray for her and her family because they are going through a tough time right now and they need our prayers and concern and not because of the would have, should haves. That should come later.
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RE: Jennifer Hudson - Could she not have done something... - 11/1/2008 9:13:51 AM
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I do agree with you Gayle, the title and the sentence after it does come across that way. Whether this could have been prevented or not is not the issue. Jennifer is hurting right now and we need to support her through prayer during this difficult time.
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RE: Jennifer Hudson - Could she not have done something... - 11/2/2008 9:38:25 PM
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Considering these crimes seem to have been committed by someone who was a member of the family, it probably would have happened no matter where they had lived.
However, if the topic is an overall look at people who live in crime ridden areas, and have the opportunity to move but don't, I would say that some people just don't want to leave where they live. I live in a neighbourhood that is high in crime, but I feel safe. I love my neighbourhood. Sure there are places I won't go alone at night, but that's a general rule for anywhere. I can understand why some people stay put.
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RE: Jennifer Hudson - Could she not have done something... - 11/3/2008 9:37:12 AM
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I still don't think I'm quite clear. The thing is, I did not know whether Jennifer had ever tried to get her family to move. From reports I've heard lately, it sounds like the attempt was made, but they wanted to stay in their home, inspite of the problems in the neighborhood. If you read through the thread, you would see I also made the comment about Obama in regards to the neighborhood that his grandmother lived in. I can only go by appearances. He may have actually tried to get her to move also.
In no way was this supposed to be a thread to cause an uproar. I'm praying for the family too. It still goes back to the main reason, if I can make it clear, if there a difference regarding what family's above the Mason-Dixon do, in terms of wealthy family members being able to move their families once they become successful. That is all it is. Maybe this discussion would have best been discussed several months after the Hudson case has been dealt with. Maybe it was presumptuous that I would think the discussion could go that way, but I stated that in the likelihood that it probably would & it did. kd
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RE: Jennifer Hudson - Could she not have done something... - 11/3/2008 9:50:22 AM
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In Jennifers case, I don't think it's realistic to assume she's making anywhere NEAR one million let alone several. It may be the case that her family did not want to leave but Jennifer just released an album(and I believe artists only make a few cents on the dollar)and even her oscar win doesn't mean she's banking huge bucks.
I remember Hilary Swank saying that she only made $3,000.00 for her role in "Boys don't cry." A role where she did win an oscar and did a wonderful job where she should have been paid much more for her work. Also, I'm reminded of the time the group TLC filled bankruptcy after releasing hit after hit. During an interview one of the artists said that they were very successful in the charts and record sales but when it came time for their "cut of the pie" it wasn't enough to buy her mom a home(this, of course was several yrs. ago).
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RE: Jennifer Hudson - Could she not have done something... - 11/3/2008 10:19:18 AM
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From what I read her Mom refused to moved. My pastor recently said that his mother lived in a neighborhood where he grew up. And that his Mom refused to move, he said that he bought her a house. He physically went to her house to give her the deed which was in her name. Also, he told her he brought her this house in her name and that she was moving. He bought the guys and a truck and moved her out. It's just unfortunate that some refused to leave.
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RE: Jennifer Hudson - Could she not have done something... - 11/3/2008 4:24:32 PM
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Like Gayle and Lexi said, it would not have mattered about the neighborhood. This was about a crazy boyfriend/husband who went ballistic on the family. That will happen no matter one's economic status.
As one from the inner city, there are more people living "right" than the knuckleheads.
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RE: Jennifer Hudson - Could she not have done something... - 11/3/2008 8:14:35 PM
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to all women out there, learn from what has happened.
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RE: Jennifer Hudson - Could she not have done something... - 11/4/2008 11:41:06 AM
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to all women out there, learn from what has happened.
Not just women...it could happen to men too (though not as often). One minute, you've found the love of your life; next thing you know you've got a devil on your hands.
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RE: Jennifer Hudson - Could she not have done something... - 11/4/2008 4:52:32 PM
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to all women out there, learn from what has happened.
Not just women...it could happen to men too (though not as often). One minute, you've found the love of your life; next thing you know you've got a devil on your hands.
Amen! That's why you have to be EQUALLY yoked!!!
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RE: Jennifer Hudson - Could she not have done something... - 11/5/2008 9:13:37 AM
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If we are assuming that Balfour is the guilty party, it could be another case here of a woman thinking she could change her man. He already had this type of behavior when she married him. What could she expect? She obviously had no effect on him. Lesson learned women - you can't change a man! kd
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RE: Jennifer Hudson - Could she not have done something... - 11/13/2008 5:23:19 PM
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If we are assuming that Balfour is the guilty party, it could be another case here of a woman thinking she could change her man. He already had this type of behavior when she married him. What could she expect? She obviously had no effect on him. Lesson learned women - you can't change a man! kd
Amen!!!
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RE: Jennifer Hudson - Could she not have done something... - 11/17/2008 1:53:33 PM
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Must we be so prideful?! LOL!!!!!! kd
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