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Judgment day - 7/25/2008 9:49:00 AM
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Lufia
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I would like to know if i will be judge for all the good and bad i've done since the begining of my life or if that judgement will be from the moment i received Jesus has my savior?
(I know that this judgment doen't have anything to do with my eternal life)
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RE: Judgment day - 7/25/2008 10:27:00 AM
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Your judgment so to speak will be for those things after receiving Christ…all is forgiven for those events occurring before you’re accepting Christ.
The Bema Seat Judgment (which is intended for Christians only) is not so much a judgment; it is a hearing to grant rewards or the loss of rewards for he life we have lived after conversion.
Bema Seat is described in 1 Corinthians 3:12-15, "If any man builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, his work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man's work. If what he has built survives, he will receive his reward. If it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames." Your gold, silver, and costly stones are works done for the glory of God, with the right motive, and in dependence upon the power of the Holy Spirit.
The concept of the Bema Seat comes from the ancient Olympics, where a judge would sit on the Bema Seat at the finish line. The judge's purpose was to determine what position the runners came in-first, second, and so on-and then to give out the appropriate rewards. That is the imagery behind what is known as the Bema Seat.
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RE: Judgment day - 7/25/2008 10:36:57 AM
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Carico
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ORIGINAL: Lufia
I would like to know if i will be judge for all the good and bad i've done since the begining of my life or if that judgement will be from the moment i received Jesus has my savior?
(I know that this judgment doen't have anything to do with my eternal life)
Thanks
If you are truly born again, your sins are covered on judgment day. You can also be sure that as Philippians 1:4 says; "He who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion." 
However, when assigning seats in heaven, each believer will be assigned that seat that was prepared for him. That decision is made by God and what he ordained each one of us to do. Some will only escape the flames, others will be seated closer to the right hand of God. So yes, our deeds will be taken into account in determining our place in heaven.
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RE: Judgment day - 7/25/2008 11:06:07 AM
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ORIGINAL: Carico
If you are truly born again, your sins are covered on judgment day. You can also be sure that as Philippians 1:4 says; "He who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion."
Amen to that!
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However, when assigning seats in heaven, each believer will be assigned that seat that was prepared for him. That decision is made by God and what he ordained each one of us to do. Some will only escape the flames, others will be seated closer to the right hand of God. So yes, our deeds will be taken into account in determining our place in heaven.
I have no idea where this idea of assigning seats comes from. I expect to either be on my knees or face, certainly not sitting in the presence of the Lord of the universe.
However, I would like to add that we will be judged for everything from birth to death, and, if you are a believer, there will be no condemnation. Should I manage to get a reward, I expect to throw it at the feet of Jesus because He deserves the glory and honor. If any righteousness is found in me, it is His righteousness, not mine.
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RE: Judgment day - 7/25/2008 11:13:43 AM
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Carico
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ORIGINAL: Carico
If you are truly born again, your sins are covered on judgment day. You can also be sure that as Philippians 1:4 says; "He who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion."
Amen to that!
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However, when assigning seats in heaven, each believer will be assigned that seat that was prepared for him. That decision is made by God and what he ordained each one of us to do. Some will only escape the flames, others will be seated closer to the right hand of God. So yes, our deeds will be taken into account in determining our place in heaven.
I have no idea where this idea of assigning seats comes from. I expect to either be on my knees or face, certainly not sitting in the presence of the Lord of the universe.
However, I would like to add that we will be judged for everything from birth to death, and, if you are a believer, there will be no condemnation. Should I manage to get a reward, I expect to throw it at the feet of Jesus because He deserves the glory and honor. If any righteousness is found in me, it is His righteousness, not mine.
John 14:2, "In my Father's house are many rooms; if it were not so, I would have told you. I am going there to prepare a place for you."
That means that each person is assigned a place in heaven according to his deeds. Jesus sits at the right hand of the Father. You will be in the presence of the Lord for all of eternity if you are born again. The New Jerusalem will be lighted by the lighted of God.
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RE: Judgment day - 7/25/2008 11:44:52 AM
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That means that each person is assigned a place in heaven according to his deeds. Jesus sits at the right hand of the Father. You will be in the presence of the Lord for all of eternity if you are born again. The New Jerusalem will be lighted by the lighted of God.
I am in the presence of the Lord right now. God has already "seated us with Him in the heavenly places..." (catch the important prepositional phrase that follows) "... in Christ Jesus." (Ephesians 2:6)
God made Mankind for work, not sitting. I have a place in Heaven for sure. I do not know what I will be doing for eternity, but it will probably be some form of what He has me doing now, praising Him through labor, expanding the kingdom. I seriously doubt if I will be singing praise choruses for eternity. (I can barely stand 10 minutes of that now!) But I am certain I won't be sitting around for eternity.
However, this thread is about judgment, not our eternal state.
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You may think it strange, but he never likes any assistance. When he made the world, he did not ask the angel Gabriel so much as to cool the molten matter with his wing, but he did it entirely himself. -- Spurgeon
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RE: Judgment day - 7/25/2008 7:41:22 PM
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It is my understanding that the accuser will seek to save his skin by pointing out that we need to be judged for ours. Otherwise, it would not be just for Adonai to condemn him. At that point, Yeshua will point out that the price has been paid for those of us who accept it. Then, Adonai will wipe away our tears and our sins will be remembered no more.
This is my understanding. Since this is not clearly stated in the Scriptures, I would suggest that each person study the Scriptures and develop ones own understanding as they are guided by Adonai.
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RE: Judgment day - 7/25/2008 8:37:05 PM
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Lufia
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So Bob, if i understand well, my rewards will be about what i have done for the Lord after i received Jesus as my savior? But what about my wrongs? Will i be punish? Still saved but punish?
And all of my sins during my entire life are forgiven because of Jesus.
Sorry about the confusion of the title, my question is more about corinthians 3:12-15
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RE: Judgment day - 7/27/2008 3:12:33 AM
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I was asked this question by a Christian many years ago. He asked me "are we going to be judged after we die?" I said "yes, we will all be judged by God after we die." Then he said to me "that is scary!" I told him, in theory yes, in reality no.
Of course, just the thought of having to appear before the judgement seat of Christ, who will determine your eternal destiny is indeed scary. However, the bible tells us that those who are born again may have confidence in their day of judgement. Therefore, in reality we should be confident and look forward to the day of judgement if we are born again.
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RE: Judgment day - 7/27/2008 9:49:00 PM
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RC James,
Did you know that people don't want to talk about this topic? Its like hush, hush! I think to myself, what is so hard about discussing your judgement day? If you are born again, then you should be confident and know what the outcome will be.
I am a Christian but I still do lots of repenting in my life. I believe God is faithful and will forgive your sins, if you humble yourself and seek after His heart everyday. I do seek holiness and righteousness in all that I do, but there are times when I do fall into temptation. Nevertheless, I believe that God will discipline those of us whom He loves. Whether it be a harsh or mild rebuke, it is always a good thing to accept God's rebuke here on earth.
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RE: Judgment day - 7/27/2008 11:56:45 PM
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bob97
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So Bob, if i understand well, my rewards will be about what i have done for the Lord after i received Jesus as my savior? But what about my wrongs? Will i be punish? Still saved but punish?
Hi Lufia...
If you belong to Christ your sins are forgiven...period. This includes past and future sin. Christ shed his blood once and for all for all sin. If you are a Christian you will not continue in sin and if you do you likely don't belong to Christ.
Yes it is my understanding that you will be rewarded for the fruit of your salvation. If your accomplishments are few your rewards will be few and if your accomplishments are great so will be your rewards.
Don't worry...If you belong to Christ you have a ticket to Heaven but if you don't produce you might not get to ride on the rides.
Bob
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RE: Judgment day - 7/28/2008 10:14:16 AM
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DougHorton
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If you are a Christian you will not continue in sin and if you do you likely don't belong to Christ.
Unless we have found some way to exempt ourselves from the pronoun phase "There is none" then the Psalmist, Isaiah, Paul, and John all disagree with that statement.
Romans 3:10 - 18
The last I checked, God knew how to count from zero to... well... zero.
Romans 7:14 - 25
I also think both God and Paul both knew how to conjugate present tense verbs.
1 John 1:8 - 10
If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us.
The wonderful truth is there in verse 9:
If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
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You may think it strange, but he never likes any assistance. When he made the world, he did not ask the angel Gabriel so much as to cool the molten matter with his wing, but he did it entirely himself. -- Spurgeon
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