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Plastic Beauty - 5/20/2008 11:39:13 AM
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WhiteRoseBlessings
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This is a just a curiosity question, although one that I've had for quite a while. For those of y'all who like to look specifically at women with surgically-augmented faces and/or bodies . . . why? No, I'm not asking about lust. Neither am I asking for a debate on whether plastic surgery is a sin or not. Nor am I discounting that some people have plastic surgery to offset effects of disease nor illness. I'm simply curious as to why a man would find plastic beauty, in and of itself, appealing. And, for those of you who do, does it mean that natural beauty is not appealing to you? If so, why not? Thanks & Blessings, Sharon-Marie
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RE: Plastic Beauty - 5/20/2008 11:52:51 AM
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colliefan
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First of all, how large a sample of men do you think look at plastic beauty? I don't think it is needed.
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RE: Plastic Beauty - 5/20/2008 11:55:46 AM
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ORIGINAL: colliefan First of all, how large a sample of men do you think look at plastic beauty? I don't know one way or another. This isn't an inflammatory "why do all men do this" type of thread. (personally, I can't stand it when someone asks those types of questions to males, females or any other "group" of people). I'm simply curious . . . for the men that DO like that look, why? There's no hidden agenda. .
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RE: Plastic Beauty - 5/20/2008 2:14:50 PM
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No one wants to answer my question? C'mon y'all . . . I promise you it's not a trap. I'm simply wanting to understand the appeal.
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RE: Plastic Beauty - 5/20/2008 3:23:51 PM
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I'm not aware of anyone who likes looking at "surgically-augmented faces and/or bodies" perse because that's not something that is easily discerned. Being visually-oriented I think most men are drawn to beautiful women in general. Whether or not that person has "had some work done" is not even something I think runs through our minds when we see someone attractive unless the "work" is...shall we say..."overkill" if you know what I mean (lol). I'm not sure if I answered your question.
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RE: Plastic Beauty - 5/20/2008 3:34:24 PM
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It kinda did. Occasionally, I will hear (or read) a man say that he prefers augmentation. I think the first time I heard is is when I started swirling this question around in my head. I've also heard some men (both single and married) theorize that they would want their (future) girlfriend / wife to have very specific surgeries done regardless of what she would naturally look (before the operations) and soley for the purpose of fulfilling the man's visual expectations of what pleased him.
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RE: Plastic Beauty - 5/20/2008 4:43:06 PM
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I have no interest in the plastic look. I'd rather see ladies the way God created them.
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RE: Plastic Beauty - 5/20/2008 5:19:37 PM
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I agree with the vikingfan. I think any man who is willing to ask a woman to have plastic surgery should be kicked off the bus at the next stop. Physical beauty is a nice attribute but I am far more concerned about what a woman is like on the inside. If it all boiled down to the most beautiful being the most suitable than why are so many models and celebrities going from one failed relationship to the next?
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RE: Plastic Beauty - 5/20/2008 8:19:42 PM
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ORIGINAL: WhiteRoseBlessings It kinda did. Occasionally, I will hear (or read) a man say that he prefers augmentation. I think the first time I heard is is when I started swirling this question around in my head. I've also heard some men (both single and married) theorize that they would want their (future) girlfriend / wife to have very specific surgeries done regardless of what she would naturally look (before the operations) and soley for the purpose of fulfilling the man's visual expectations of what pleased him. Any man who openly admits that he prefers a woman who is "surgically enhanced" is too shallow to be considered a good candidate for a long term relationship. Simply because there will come a time when, no matter how much surgery you have, it just won't work. When that time comes you'll be dumped for the next pretty face and well built body willing to go under the knife for him. A man like that obviously loves the physical form more than he does the woman and would probably just as content with a department store mannequin. And besides, how far would a woman go to please a man like that? How many surgeries? Why should any woman be willing to alter her physical appearance simply to meet his arbitrary concept of beauty? Would he go as easily to the comestic surgeon to meet her physical ideals as well? One previous poster had it correct. No man I know is thinking, "I like the way she looks because she's surgically altered." Each one of them is thinking, "What an attractive woman." Whether it's surgical or natural is no where in our minds. As far as personal preferences go, I am more attracted to women who are natural beauties, who wear little make-up as opposed to being heavily made-up. Women who are the super models and celebrities that appear to be perfect physical specimens are attractive, I'll admit, but they don't engage my interest. They seem too unreal to me.
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RE: Plastic Beauty - 5/21/2008 11:41:00 AM
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ORIGINAL: mrtigger Guys just don't post as often as as women. Answers will come but will probably trickle in for a week or so... LOL - I was a bit impatient, wasn't I? It wasn't intentional; it was just based on when I have posted other questions to y'all here in He Says and the questions have always been much quicker in coming. I thought that either this question was very puzzling or that no one wanted to even go near it. quote:
ORIGINAL: Pauley464 Any man who openly admits that he prefers a woman who is "surgically enhanced" is too shallow to be considered a good candidate for a long term relationship. I agree. However, that wasn't my motivation for posting the question. It really is simply something I've been curious about since the first time I heard it . . . such statement wasn't directed towards me; it was just something I overheard . . . and throughout the past couple of years have heard it again (either audibly or visually) by enough different men, that I decided to ask about it. quote:
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ORIGINAL: WhiteRoseBlessings No one wants to answer my question? C'mon y'all . . . I promise you it's not a trap. I'm simply wanting to understand the appeal. By-the-way. Your question does smell suspiciously like a trap to most men. At least it does to this man. To this, I will say that I'm pretty straightforward; and if I say something isn't a trap, then that is what I mean. It's up to you whether you want to believe me or not. I do thank y'all who have posted so far and appreciate you time in doing so. I hope to hear from more men and their thoughts on this. Y'all be blessed. Sharon-Marie
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RE: Plastic Beauty - 5/21/2008 11:54:21 AM
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I have talked to men who have expressed a desire for a woman who was rather obviously surgically enhanced. When I pointed out that they were 'plastic', their response was "So?" One explanation that I've heard is that the female form expresses her sexuality, and some men feel that the more shapely they are, the more sexy they are. To qoute Mae West "Too much of a good thing...is wonderful!" Personally, I find it disgusting. I mean, it's ok if there is a medical need...say reconstructive surgery or following a mastectomy or something like that. Otherwise, what's wrong with what God gave you?
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RE: Plastic Beauty - 5/21/2008 12:00:33 PM
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Finally! LOL A man who has heard the same thing I have heard in regards to this. Ray - thank you for your post.
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RE: Plastic Beauty - 5/21/2008 1:13:45 PM
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ORIGINAL: WhiteRoseBlessings I hope to hear from more men and their thoughts on this. i didn't respond initially as it's not something i can tell or would know what to look for. maybe i don't look closely enough?
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RE: Plastic Beauty - 5/21/2008 3:27:14 PM
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To this, I will say that I'm pretty straightforward; and if I say something isn't a trap, then that is what I mean. Better not question her motives anymore Pauley...I sense a "cyberslap" in the making (lol).
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RE: Plastic Beauty - 5/21/2008 3:44:56 PM
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I'm not one of those who prefer looking at it...but it has been discussed and if my wife were to have breast cancer then I would be fine with cosmetic surgery some point down the road if that is what she chose. A beautiful person has very little to do with outward appearance imo
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RE: Plastic Beauty - 5/21/2008 8:32:49 PM
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Fair enough. Thanks, Pauley.
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RE: Plastic Beauty - 5/21/2008 11:11:37 PM
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I suppose the men who would admit to enjoying this form of beauty would be more likely to frequent a "gentlemens" club than post here. These are real men and they aren't gentlemen.
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RE: Plastic Beauty - 5/21/2008 11:16:47 PM
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ORIGINAL: colliefan I suppose the men who would admit to enjoying this form of beauty would be more likely to frequent a "gentlemens" club than post here. These are real men and they aren't gentlemen. I think something got lost in the translation with this . . . who are you saying are real men and who are you saying aren't gentlemen?
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RE: Plastic Beauty - 5/21/2008 11:47:01 PM
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ORIGINAL: WhiteRoseBlessings This is a just a curiosity question, although one that I've had for quite a while. For those of y'all who like to look specifically at women with surgically-augmented faces and/or bodies . . . why? No, I'm not asking about lust. Neither am I asking for a debate on whether plastic surgery is a sin or not. Nor am I discounting that some people have plastic surgery to offset effects of disease nor illness. I'm simply curious as to why a man would find plastic beauty, in and of itself, appealing. And, for those of you who do, does it mean that natural beauty is not appealing to you? If so, why not? Thanks & Blessings, Sharon-Marie I don't, however how do you know if someone has or hasn't though? I prefer naturaly beauty myself.
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RE: Plastic Beauty - 5/22/2008 8:47:26 PM
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ORIGINAL: WhiteRoseBlessings quote:
ORIGINAL: colliefan I suppose the men who would admit to enjoying this form of beauty would be more likely to frequent a "gentlemens" club than post here. These are real men and they aren't gentlemen. I think something got lost in the translation with this . . . who are you saying are real men and who are you saying aren't gentlemen? Allow me to translate. Likes plastic enhancements = hangs out at strip joints = jerk. Likes real women = hangs out on Crosswalk (or other Christian) forum = gentleman. I've heard men say they don't care if breasts are enhanced or not, and I've heard men say they couldn't tell the difference. I've encountered one many who said he preferred plastic to reality. Personally, I think women look better unenhanced. Faces are a different matter. Usually the surgery is less drastic and harder to identify. How can you tell if a woman has had a nose job? BTW, I believed you when you said it wasn't a trap, it's just that you were asking those who prefer enhancements.
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RE: Plastic Beauty - 5/22/2008 9:41:26 PM
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I think something got lost in the translation with this . . . who are you saying are real men and who are you saying aren't gentlemen? should of been aren't real men
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