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RE: Wall Streeters turning to Religion - 9/23/2008 3:59:18 AM
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RyansWife
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Great article, I will send this to my husband. Thanks Tracy.
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RE: Wall Streeters turning to Religion - 9/23/2008 10:00:35 AM
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It's certainly true. The evangelical church I went to when I was an intern living in Manhattan is sending me constant emails about small groups involving wall streeters.
People want to know that God is still in control- even if we're not. Still, New York and Wall Street remain very secular places. Religion is just one of those things you don't talk about at work.
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RE: Wall Streeters turning to Religion - 9/23/2008 2:01:00 PM
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Is it really wallstreet turning to God or is it, " God if you are there, please save my behind and I promise not to be this greedy again". 
I think its more along the lines of people feeling very, very lost.
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RE: Wall Streeters turning to Religion - 9/23/2008 2:26:17 PM
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I think uncertainty is a major opportunity for most folks. In our normal daily lives, we have very little motivation to rethink our world views. When our lives get shaken up, we're more open to considering alternatives and making changes.
To be sure, there's more than a little bit of "save my rear this time, and I'll change. Really."
But I would also say that for many of us, this represents a major shakeup in our lives. The sort that doesn't come around very often (hopefully.) Times like these represent one of the few periods in a person's life when he is really capable of examining himself and making changes.
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RE: Wall Streeters turning to Religion - 9/23/2008 4:18:15 PM
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Call me a hard behind or what ever, but I seriously doubt these wallstreets are turning to God for any other reason than for Him to bail them out. We are talking about people here who are more concerned with turning the next dollar than the millions they scammed people out of. They are only sorry because their bubble busted.
Maybe they have hit a new low, maybe they are examining, but I have my doubts that it is true conversion time. Wall streeters are running scared, they might just become like common folk! They might lose their jobs, they might lose their pensions, they might have to give up that big house and do with out those huge salaries and bonuses.
I find very little humaness in a group of people who can rape Americans for profit and only be regretful when they got caught.
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RE: Wall Streeters turning to Religion - 9/23/2008 4:21:00 PM
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GroupW
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Call me a hard behind or what ever, but I seriously doubt these wallstreets are turning to God for any other reason than for Him to bail them out. We are talking about people here who are more concerned with turning the next dollar than the millions they scammed people out of. They are only sorry because their bubble busted.
Maybe they have hit a new low, maybe they are examining, but I have my doubts that it is true conversion time. Wall streeters are running scared, they might just become like common folk! They might lose their jobs, they might lose their pensions, they might have to give up that big house and do with out those huge salaries and bonuses.
I find very little humaness in a group of people who can rape Americans for profit and only be regretful when they got caught.
I don't think this describes many wall streeters. (Sometime do a search and see if you can figure out what I do for a living  ....)
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RE: Wall Streeters turning to Religion - 9/23/2008 4:25:13 PM
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No offense to you personally Group W. In my very biased analysis, I do include the Congressmen, the Pres, the SEC, The Fed, any and all investors who manipulate and dominate the markets.
Many saw this coming years ago and DID NOTHING because it was such a money generator. Now they are crying and scared and we are to pity their circumstances! And believe that they truly want what Christ has to offer?
Sorry, but all in the world glitters as gold and eternity doesn't seem to have much appeal to them.
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RE: Wall Streeters turning to Religion - 9/23/2008 5:03:53 PM
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GroupW
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No offense to you personally Group W. In my very biased analysis, I do include the Congressmen, the Pres, the SEC, The Fed, any and all investors who manipulate and dominate the markets.
Many saw this coming years ago and DID NOTHING because it was such a money generator. Now they are crying and scared and we are to pity their circumstances! And believe that they truly want what Christ has to offer?
Sorry, but all in the world glitters as gold and eternity doesn't seem to have much appeal to them.
LOL - no problem. I never take offense. Every once in a while, though, it's fun to confess to being one of those wall street types that created this mess.
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RE: Wall Streeters turning to Religion - 9/23/2008 6:14:45 PM
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GroupW
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Or the idea that money does not always mean security and safety.
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RE: Wall Streeters turning to Religion - 9/25/2008 12:32:21 PM
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Mark 10:25
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RE: Wall Streeters turning to Religion - 9/25/2008 12:36:56 PM
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GroupW
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Hey G&J - would you clarify how you want to apply that? There are a couple of directions one might take it.
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RE: Wall Streeters turning to Religion - 9/25/2008 12:48:15 PM
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It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
well I think I would say that
#1 it's hard for rich people to realize they need God because they "have it all".
#2 (as a generalization) Those who are rich will serve the "god of convinience" What ever god willput the money back in their pocketbook is the one that they are going for.
we need to pray for them, but when God answers our prayer we we might not like the answers.
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RE: Wall Streeters turning to Religion - 9/25/2008 12:54:51 PM
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GroupW
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It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
we need to pray for them, but when God answers our prayer we we might not like the answers.
Thanks.
I was going to take it in the direction that when God answers our prayers THEY might not like the answers! I agree it's tough for rich folk to admit their dependency on God. Barring something traumatic, I think it's tough to get an independently minded person to focus on spiritual things. Crises like the current one, however, I think serve to open the mind sometimes.
For at least a few.
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