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What are you doing to prepare for marriage? - 7/26/2008 8:34:13 PM
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ChoirDJ
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I think it's safe to assume that many of us who post in this forum really want to be married. We had a thread earlier on why we are still single and that generated a lot of great discussion. This thread goes beyond just identifying why we are single to discuss what we are doing to prepare ourselves for a relationship that will hopefully lead to marriage. Perhaps you are reading a book on dating, going to therapy, or dealing with an area of your character that was a trouble spot in a previous relationship.
One of the things I've seen in myself over and over again is I tend to be a procrastinator. Sometimes I don't deal with things until I absolutely have to and it can actually exacerbate the situation. Recently, I had to apologize to a friend for not RSVPing for his wedding although he sent me the invitation well in advance. He was very gracious about it but my lack of response caused him the extra trouble of having to call me on top of everything else. I wish I could say the wedding RSVP deal was an exception to how I normally am but I'd be lying.
Secondly, I tend to be uninformed due to my failure to pay attention to the details whether it's an important e-mail from work, an announcement made regarding the ministry, or other issues and it has been a source of embarrassment on occasions. One time I registered for and showed up for a work-related conference in another county I wasn't supposed to be at because I didn't read the e-mail clearly. There were a few workers from a different department there wondering why I was there and I felt so incredibly humbled by that experience. My boss, who happened to be there was gracious, and wanted to reimbursement me for the hotel and traveling expenses and all but I insisted on not being reimbursed because it was my fault. You better believe my coworkers had fun with that one for a long time. What does this have to do with marriage preparedness? My ex used to complain about my lack of attentiveness and initiative in dealing with situations in a timely manner. When the going got tough, I'd wuss out and go into ostrich-mode many times. I have been practicing astuteness in all the above and it is paying off. I always struggled with a lack of confidence over managing my finances for as long as I can remember but I've gotten to the point where I balance my checkbook everyday, pay all my bills on time, and live below my means. I'm starting to get in the habit of turning my reports in at work before they are due whether than waiting to the absolute last minute. And, I ordered copies of my credit reports and actually took the time to review them.
Of course, I am going to a divorce recovery group (my divorce was finalized last weekend) to address the emotional and pragmatic aspects of the divorce so I don't carry any baggage into that next relationship down the line.
Lastly, I plan on reading some good books on spiritual dating and educating myself on how to be a healthy mate. Although I am not planning on dating right now, I am not going to wait until I do to start preparing myself for the blessing I believe God has in store for me. How about you?
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RE: What are you doing to prepare for marriage? - 7/26/2008 8:46:01 PM
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GREAT thread!!!!!!!!!
For me, I do feel that God is calling me to be prepared for marriage, and that it's going to happen quickly when it does happen.
So, what am I doing? I've been doing self-inventories of me and past relationships to find the common thread through them all. I was also called on the carpet about the fact that it is VERY difficult for me to express my feelings. I hold back - terribly hold back - in my feelings towards men. Much of that goes back to my childhood and the teasing I would get - so I can't believe that a man would honestly be interested in me. Plus, I believe the man needs to be the leader, and so, I don't say anything. As a result, I've had my heart broken - many times.
I am going through counseling and have been doing so for nearly 2 years. She has been an amazing help in getting me to slowly begin to realize my worth.
I also have a lot of self-esteem issues (I know, you may not believe that, but trust me, if you knew my story, you'd understand why this is so). God and I are working on those now.
My focus is on allowing God to do some major spiritual surgery on me.
DJ - I'm a lot like you - I do procrastinate, and need to get beyond that. There are also other issues I need to overcome - and have begun working on them one at a time, and as one becomes controllable, I move to the next one.
Anyway - God is doing a major work in me - I have to be open to allowing it to happen. I am my own worst enemy and will sabotage His work.
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RE: What are you doing to prepare for marriage? - 7/26/2008 9:00:33 PM
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For me, that's a given that it's for His pleasure and purpose in my life and not just for getting married. In all honestly, I really don't know if I am to be married. So, what I am doing is just dealing with the stuff that needs to be out of my life - regardless of my marital status.
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RE: What are you doing to prepare for marriage? - 7/26/2008 10:21:34 PM
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flirting.
OK seriously. If we are allowing God to mold us and shape us than there is not a whole lot of special prep to be done for marriage. All the things that make a great marriage work we should be practicing in our daily walk anyway (the "one another's") During marriage we just focus these efforts more on one person.
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RE: What are you doing to prepare for marriage? - 7/27/2008 12:34:59 AM
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I was reading The Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands while working at a VBS a few years ago.
That's an excellent book. I think Dr. Laura really nailed it dead on in that book as far as men are concerned and I would highly recommend to any woman who's thinking about getting married. It will save a lot of heartache. Unfortunately, many women form an impression about the book and decide not to read it based on the title when it actually talks about the untapped power and influence women have in the relationship.
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RE: What are you doing to prepare for marriage? - 7/27/2008 12:53:43 AM
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DJ, that is so cool to get a man's opinion of that book! And the book did not offend me in the least bit.
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RE: What are you doing to prepare for marriage? - 7/27/2008 1:23:31 AM
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but I feel that as soon as my motive to make any "improvement" is based on the desire to be married instead of pleasing my Heavenly Father ... well ... I've missed the big picture.
psalms274...this is a christian forum and this goes without stating as mutiny pointed out. Of course our primary objective is to please the Father but this post is about what specific things have we identified in our characters that we want to work on in becoming a suitable marriage partner some day.
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RE: What are you doing to prepare for marriage? - 7/27/2008 8:31:49 AM
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Preparing ourselves for marriage is a life-long thing... it's about growth as an individual. If we have growth, then we have what it takes... because marriage is a growing process. I was thinking about this yesterday, before the thread was posted in fact, and realized that I can prepare myself in certain ways (getting organized, getting into better shape, becoming a better cook, etc.) and get really good at something... then meet the man of my dreams and that "something" I did drives him crazy. For instance, I'm very organized and want to be more organized. But it wasn't something my ex-bf was looking for and actually turned him off. Other guys aren't impressed with cooking abilities.  But if we strive for personal growth, the rest will fall into place.
One of the things I realized last night was that I used to read a lot of books and articles on how to be a better wife... now I read books on how to be single.  What's wrong with this picture??  I need to be building communication skills that will attract those who want to be married. Thinking out loud...... it seems like many of the marriage books are written by baby boomers and most of the singles books are written by X-ers... and there are differences in the way we think. For instance, I communicate more easily with my parents' generation than I do my own... when I was using the language in the marriage books, I would get into more debates with the guys I was talking to... that wasn't always fun.
One of the other things I want to do is get myself on a better schedule so I don't neglect things like quiet time, study time, and regular exercise. I also need to build dating-time into my schedule. You know you're too busy when you can't fit a date into your schedule for three weeks.
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So, what am I doing? I've been doing self-inventories of me and past relationships to find the common thread through them all. I was also called on the carpet about the fact that it is VERY difficult for me to express my feelings. I hold back - terribly hold back - in my feelings towards men. Much of that goes back to my childhood and the teasing I would get - so I can't believe that a man would honestly be interested in me. Plus, I believe the man needs to be the leader, and so, I don't say anything. As a result, I've had my heart broken - many times
I could've written this... I also have difficulty expressing feelings comfortably. It's something I work on regularly.
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RE: What are you doing to prepare for marriage? - 7/27/2008 9:49:59 AM
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flirting.
OK seriously. If we are allowing God to mold us and shape us than there is not a whole lot of special prep to be done for marriage. All the things that make a great marriage work we should be practicing in our daily walk anyway (the "one another's") During marriage we just focus these efforts more on one person.
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I will be a work in progress to the day I go Home ... but I feel that as soon as my motive to make any "improvement" is based on the desire to be married instead of pleasing my Heavenly Father ... well ... I've missed the big picture.
I tend to hold to these concepts. However, if God brings certain things to your mind that He's asking you to change, whether for marriage or otherwise, then you should definitely begin working on them. Psalm274, I agree that changing things because you want to get married rather than for God is getting the cart before the horse, but I have experienced many times in my life where God used a certain motivation (such as getting married or getting healthy) to move me forward in my growth in Him. Later my motivation changed...I desired to do it for Him...but He didn't have a problem with using the original motivation to get me started.
As for me: I've been married before, and lost my ddh through death. We had a wonderful marriage. I don't have a lot to heal from; nine + years have given me plenty of time to grieve and heal everything that I can. In those ways I am ready and well trained.
Right now I am attending school to finish my degree. I'm pretty sure God wants that to be accomplished and won't let more distractions than necessary get in my way--so I doubt that a potential partner will come along much before the end of that project. In that way, I guess I am preparing for marriage...while at the same time preparing for the possibility of remaining single. Either way a degree is a good thing.
My kids are getting older and starting to leave the nest. In that way, God Himself is doing something toward preparing me for marriage. Some things I will NOT have to be concerned about will be the safety and emotional impact of a relationship with a man on my children. And he won't have to worry about being a daddy to younger children. I see this as good: it will put less pressure on our own relationship in the early years.
My .02.
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RE: What are you doing to prepare for marriage? - 7/28/2008 8:31:29 AM
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I think my preparation has been to figure out myself. To let God speak to me, get rid of the junk that doesn't need to be there, and to make me fulfilled in Him. Marriage will just be a bonus. I've read books, yeah, but it really didn't help me all that much because I was still paralyzed around guys whom I find attractive because I had such a negative perception of myself and who I am in Christ.
Day by day it gets better, and I constantly have to remind myself that God is in control and that He promised me that He was going to do it, and that there was nothing I could change about myself or do differently to make it happen because it was going to be all about HIM when it did.
That definitely helps me put my mind at ease, but it takes a little more convincing on the rough days.
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RE: What are you doing to prepare for marriage? - 7/28/2008 10:43:09 AM
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I read the book, "His Rules: A Practical Road Map for Becoming and Attracting Mr. or Mrs. Right." And was asked to consider being a facilitator for a group that will study this book at our Wednesday night groups. I am reluctant, though.
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RE: What are you doing to prepare for marriage? - 7/28/2008 10:58:07 AM
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I could relate to most of the topics in that book. I was not saved when I met my x. Three months into the marriage it went bad! I got saved, and stayed in the marriage for 23 years. I do not want to say, if I had read that book then, I would not have married this man, because I have four beautiful, talented and loving children that bless me daily. So, to prepare me for my second marriage to, "only God knows, who" I will apply some of what I gleened from this book...
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RE: What are you doing to prepare for marriage? - 7/28/2008 11:10:52 AM
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I'm with a lot of people on here and have been learning how to live my life for Christ and serving Him rather than focus on not having a husband. I've mentioned a book on here before that some of you may have seen and/or read: Lady In Waiting: Becoming God's Best While Waiting for Mr. Right. Many of the single ladies in my Sunday School class are attending this study even though several of them are not planning on ever getting married. Through this book, along with other factors, I have come to terms with a lot of things about myself.
I too have struggled with insecurity and did not deal with it in a Godly fashion for many years. Basically went looking for love in all the wrong places, and with the wrong people. Now I see myself as a child of God, finding my self-worth in Him, and it is amazing how serving Him has helped in this area. (Note: This was a blessing I did not expect...I serve Him because He has asked me to.) I have also realized that I shared the responsibility for my divorce. There was not anything going on that couldn't have been worked out, but I see now that my motives were not even close to being pure. I tried to hold my ex-husband to a lot of promises he made me, including getting involved with church and learning about the Lord. I see now that I was just trying to fashion him into someone I wanted him to be. With this and other things I see now how selfish I was. Should it have ended in divorce? No. He just gave up after less than a year. But something a speaker we had at church this past Sunday said really put this into perspective. His daughter had gone through a divorce, and she got to the point where she said that if she herself had been walking with the Lord the way she should have been she never would have married her husband (now ex). This sums it up for me as well. Good has come out of my divorce, and I daresay more good will come out of it. But it was a difficult lesson to learn, and it took me a long time before I finally took the Lord's hint in regards to men in general.
So...serving the Lord and studying His Word, as well has having the humility to acknowledge my mistakes has given me a whole different outlook. It has also taught me what not to do and what I SHOULD do in a marriage...put the other person first no matter what. And TRULY put the other first, not just putting on an act about it.
They always say someone comes your way when you are not looking for him/her to come along. I have started to date someone recently who literally came out of the blue. He is a believer who seems to have life in the correct perspective (notice I said SEEMS). When I met him, dating him was the last thing on my mind...not that I found him unattractive, but because my brain wasn't in that mode. So I was rather floored when he asked me out. Nervous? You bet. It has been a long time since I've dated anyone, especially someone who does not appear to want...ahem...benefits from me. My challenge it not so much wondering if he's my Mr. Right but struggling with the fear of actually having a relationship due to my past. Basically I don't know what to do!!  But I'm leaving it in the Lord's hands. It may just be a learning experience if nothing else, although I find myself hoping not. And I need to stop having preconceived ideas how this stuff happens. This is not how I imagined meeting someone I would date. But something in a Crosswalk devotional said today "Have you ever wanted something so badly - hunted, searched, maybe even prayed - then when you found it, you realized that maybe it wasn't exactly what you wanted, but it was definitely what you needed." He is not the kind of person I thought I would date...but perhaps he is the kind of person I NEED to date. The Lord knows much better than I what...and who...I need. Only time will tell about this, and I am determined to do this the Lord's way only and not worry about what a book or anything else might say no matter how well-meaning. Having girlfriends who are praying for this means a lot, too. This man and I had our first official dinner date this Sat. and right before I was getting ready to leave, one of these girlfriends made the effort to call me to tell me she was praying for us. I asked the Lord to give her a special blessing for that.
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RE: What are you doing to prepare for marriage? - 7/28/2008 3:50:13 PM
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I tend to hold to these concepts. However, if God brings certain things to your mind that He's asking you to change, whether for marriage or otherwise, then you should definitely begin working on them.
Good point.
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Jenny-Fair
So I told them I was studying for the final.
That funny. I've read several of Dr Laura's book and hope to
read that one some day.
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A question I could easily avoid, since I have zero prospects. At least
as far as my eyes can see. (men plan, God laughs)
I have no illusions. Living as a bachelor for so long, a marriage
transition would be ~different~ even a process. I'm sure that I
would make it with joy. ( with a dab of frustration.)
There are many things that would have to change and or improve.
To improve my life is a good thing, marriage or not.
Changing my bachelor ways should marriage be factor. won't be optional!
The best and biggest thing I could think of (to prepare for marriage) is Premarital counseling.
I've read all the books listened to all the tapes.
And they were wonderful, however they don't deal with
us as the individuals we are. To go beyond the warm and fuzzies and
talk about things which may or may not have been mentioned.
Children, Chores, Money, Family, Friends and (the ever popular) sex.
Big issues that can tear a marriage apart.
(good example by Above_All's post)
I had a "contract" (sort of) rattling around my head for my next wife
Altho I know (now) that many of these issues would be dealt with
in counseling.
This is that "list" or contract I had though of, well what I can remember.
For My wife, I promise, or agree to:
(in no particular order)
1. Contain all my "projects" to its specific work place.
Computer parts, car parts, wood working and ALL TOOLS
will no longer be allowed to drift around the living room nor
take up residence on the kitchen table.
2. To give you (at least) one hour of my undivided attention a day.
That's all you. No tv, telephone, computer ect - just you.
3. Communicate rather than argue. I am very sure we will disagree
at times. However, minor disagreements need not be major blow-outs.
4. To hold my tongue when your friends or family make stupid comments.
( I'm sure I'll blow this one.)
5. Not to hold my tongue when My family or friends make stupid comments.
6. Finances. To develop our own system to do bills, set goals and plans ~ together ~
Money being a big deal we really need to be on the same page.
7. Not to eat all the Ice cream.
8. To continue our dating relationship and never stop being that
incurable flirt you first met.
9. To be patent and kind to your kids as I am with mine. They are an extension of you.
10. To be as strong with with kids as I am with mine. Sometimes "no" is
the right answer. Never the popular one. (or the easy one)
11. Never to be the first one to stop the "hug"
12. To clean up after myself.
13. To share all the the chores.
14. Never demand you do things to which you are uncomfortable with, in an intimacy sense.
15. Never to be violent (goes without saying)
16. Never call you a (mean) name nor degrade you emotionally. (goes without saying)
17. Never beat you up with past sins or mistakes (goes without saying)
18. Never leave the toilet seat up
19. Be responsible for all icky bugs, scary spiders, squeaky mice and
other varmints that make you cringe.
( Man's job anyways so barely worth a mention here)
20. Keep my word (promises)
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Many more that could be tacked on but again I know that many of theses
things would be discussed and dealt with in premarital counseling.
Not that they would ever stop being issues. Or would ever have to be talked about again.
Counseling would help get us started on the right foot and a stronger foundation.
I yet may do such a thing not just for her but to put it before my eyes as well.
That is to be reminded of my promises daily.
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So What am I doing to prepare for Marriage?
Simple.
Living my life. Building a future. Trying to get out of debt, loss weight,
eat right and quit a few bad habits. That way when she shows up it will be
all joy to include (and be included) into each other's lives.
> Ain't Misbehavin <
Vently
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RE: What are you doing to prepare for marriage? - 7/28/2008 3:56:04 PM
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Can I borrow this list? I will print it and keep it handy. Great list, well thought out.
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RE: What are you doing to prepare for marriage? - 7/28/2008 7:00:14 PM
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quote:
ORIGINAL: Vently
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besiderself
I tend to hold to these concepts. However, if God brings certain things to your mind that He's asking you to change, whether for marriage or otherwise, then you should definitely begin working on them.
Good point.
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Jenny-Fair
So I told them I was studying for the final.
That funny. I've read several of Dr Laura's book and hope to
read that one some day.
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A question I could easily avoid, since I have zero prospects. At least
as far as my eyes can see. (men plan, God laughs)
I have no illusions. Living as a bachelor for so long, a marriage
transition would be ~different~ even a process. I'm sure that I
would make it with joy. ( with a dab of frustration.)
There are many things that would have to change and or improve.
To improve my life is a good thing, marriage or not.
Changing my bachelor ways should marriage be factor. won't be optional!
The best and biggest thing I could think of (to prepare for marriage) is Premarital counseling.
I've read all the books listened to all the tapes.
And they were wonderful, however they don't deal with
us as the individuals we are. To go beyond the warm and fuzzies and
talk about things which may or may not have been mentioned.
Children, Chores, Money, Family, Friends and (the ever popular) sex.
Big issues that can tear a marriage apart.
(good example by Above_All's post)
I had a "contract" (sort of) rattling around my head for my next wife
Altho I know (now) that many of these issues would be dealt with
in counseling.
This is that "list" or contract I had though of, well what I can remember.
For My wife, I promise, or agree to:
(in no particular order)
1. Contain all my "projects" to its specific work place.
Computer parts, car parts, wood working and ALL TOOLS
will no longer be allowed to drift around the living room nor
take up residence on the kitchen table.
2. To give you (at least) one hour of my undivided attention a day.
That's all you. No tv, telephone, computer ect - just you.
3. Communicate rather than argue. I am very sure we will disagree
at times. However, minor disagreements need not be major blow-outs.
4. To hold my tongue when your friends or family make stupid comments.
( I'm sure I'll blow this one.)
5. Not to hold my tongue when My family or friends make stupid comments.
6. Finances. To develop our own system to do bills, set goals and plans ~ together ~
Money being a big deal we really need to be on the same page.
7. Not to eat all the Ice cream.
8. To continue our dating relationship and never stop being that
incurable flirt you first met.
9. To be patent and kind to your kids as I am with mine. They are an extension of you.
10. To be as strong with with kids as I am with mine. Sometimes "no" is
the right answer. Never the popular one. (or the easy one)
11. Never to be the first one to stop the "hug"
12. To clean up after myself.
13. To share all the the chores.
14. Never demand you do things to which you are uncomfortable with, in an intimacy sense.
15. Never to be violent (goes without saying)
16. Never call you a (mean) name nor degrade you emotionally. (goes without saying)
17. Never beat you up with past sins or mistakes (goes without saying)
18. Never leave the toilet seat up
19. Be responsible for all icky bugs, scary spiders, squeaky mice and
other varmints that make you cringe.
( Man's job anyways so barely worth a mention here)
20. Keep my word (promises)
+++
Many more that could be tacked on but again I know that many of theses
things would be discussed and dealt with in premarital counseling.
Not that they would ever stop being issues. Or would ever have to be talked about again.
Counseling would help get us started on the right foot and a stronger foundation.
I yet may do such a thing not just for her but to put it before my eyes as well.
That is to be reminded of my promises daily.
+++
So What am I doing to prepare for Marriage?
Simple.
Living my life. Building a future. Trying to get out of debt, loss weight,
eat right and quit a few bad habits. That way when she shows up it will be
all joy to include (and be included) into each other's lives.
> Ain't Misbehavin <
Vently
Hey Vently...
Just wondering; you didn't put your age in your profile, but, are you, by ANY chance, in my demographic???? 
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