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RE: Getting Others Off the Pew and Into Ministry - 7/11/2008 10:54:28 PM
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KuKu
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Posting mostly cold... My experience is that there are many people who would like to help but don't THINK they know how, or don't know how to help SPECIFICALLY Nursery worker- how often? alone? what do they expect of me? Choir= what do I have to know about music? what if I can't be there every week? Youth worker- (same as nursery) etc. Most people either think they cant do it (could ot handle it alone in the nursery) or don't know that they only need to be in there only once a month- thusly still having a chance to be in services and it's not a crisis if they are absent, etc...
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RE: Getting Others Off the Pew and Into Ministry - 7/12/2008 3:00:52 AM
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semperfidelis
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Posting partially cold... Just start doing stuff. Become what you want others to see, be, and do through serving. People follow commands through fear but will grow when they have something to follow that they love. I'm 25 and still figuring this out. What I've found out is that we can't get everyone. We can't bring everyone along. We can't even bring one person along side of us. That is God's job. I might be able to reach one person and connect with them, but God is the one that does the prodding and transformation. People will disappoint, but God doesn't. If ever it looks like God disappoints, our eyes aren't looking at Him fully -- something else has caught our attention. Connecting with people helps, but it's still fickle and doesn't replace having a genuine passion for whatever it is you want to do. People like following someone passionate. True passion is not flimsy charisma, but has a genuine love for God and people that sticks it through when the toilets need scrubbing and you have a paper due for class and you're all alone and you think you might be forgotten. When people see the real thing, they begin to have a reason to follow something and get out of their seats and serve God.
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The man in the arena.... If I rise and succeed, it's because His hand has lifted me. I may not have 3 greek letters but I have 2 latin words: SEMPER FIDELIS (no, I'm not a marine, but we like the same things)
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RE: Getting Others Off the Pew and Into Ministry - 7/14/2008 11:29:39 PM
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Dakotasunbeam
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I wish you were right. quote:
ORIGINAL: RJR_fan quote:
But I'm looking for a church where EVERYONE is involved, the living breathing Church of Jesus Christ. It could be you're already there -- and an unknown number of wistful saints are waiting to see you take the next step!
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RE: Getting Others Off the Pew and Into Ministry - 7/15/2008 9:20:09 PM
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Lou1
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Really enjoyed the quick speed read thru the various comments and suggestions. I am wondering what a 2500 seat church would look like to a stunned congregation on a Resurrection Sunday service for the first time. WOW things are changing. Now just follow that with all the Elders have left and you folks circle the wagons right here in this big space you are now occupying, because we are now going to exploit the obvious of what the Bible commands. Works will not get you into Heaven, however they will reward you somewhere in Eternity. Salvation is a free gift; brought about by a Vicarious death, oh yes and his death was natural, unatural, supernatural and preternatural according to my brother in Christ, Porter Barrington. So by his substitutional death we make Heaven and do not have works to accompany our free gift, what does Heaven look like for Eternity without works? I have ministered in the Nursing homes all the way from New Orleans to Corpus Christi, Texas and have been blessed with a talented piano player and great singers. My words to them were if you play the piano for the Glory of the Lord you will be rewarded in Heaven, however if you play that piano or sing for your glory you receive your reward that day. I am a retired Submarine Officer and still serve as an Elder in my church, however the real mission for me is like someone before me said all the work is not under the church roof. I overheard someone say that their Pastor died and they were in need of Preacher, I immediately handed that person my card and said send me. Two weeks later I was preaching from the exact pulpit and still show up for duty from time to time. While teaching in a Nursing Home one of our associate Pastors called me (yes during my teaching) and asked if I could go check out a biblestudy for homeless people. I said I would be glad too, when I arrived at the Homeless facility I was greeted by a Catholic Nun. When I told her why I was there she said oh good the Priest (ecumenical environment) did not show up today could you fill in for him. Remember we must be ready no matter what season. One more story and I will be quiet. While attending a Saturday morning Men's Prayer Breakfast a man got up to speak and he talked about starting a Prison ministry (with the Pastor's permission of course) I handed him my card and said call me when you need some help. Time passed then he got up on the pulpit with the Pastor's permission and made a church wide plea for help again I handed him my card (again) and said call me when your ready. Well long story short the next place I find myself is sitting in front of my Pastor saying; the Prison Ministry is yours, if you are willing, the other man left for greener pastures. What a blessing this ministry is turning out to be. So Men/Women of God be encouraged there is a great deal of work in the Kingdom now. The fields are ready for harvest those of you who have ears to hear listen to what the spirit directs. I am excited about showing those who need a preacher; the Way the Truth and the Life. Its all about Jesus Mathew 28:18. To God be the Glory. Amen Lou PS: I was one of those pew sitters too long.
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