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RE: Aliens (the space kind) - 6/4/2008 11:41:59 PM
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1dblthnk02
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Whatever happened to that bullet anyway?
It's in the JKF thread . . .
. . . sorry, I tried.
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RE: Aliens (the space kind) - 6/5/2008 1:17:10 PM
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Whatever happened to that bullet anyway?
It's in the JKF thread . . .
. . . sorry, I tried.
I don't recall an episode where barney was in Dallas. 
Barney didn't have to be there. Remember? It was a magic bullet...
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RE: Aliens (the space kind) - 6/5/2008 3:47:47 PM
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No, Ernest T. Bass was a double agent. Oh I see.... He threw the bullet from Mayberry!
Good arm!
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RE: Aliens (the space kind) - 6/5/2008 4:33:40 PM
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cow451
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No, Ernest T. Bass was a double agent. Oh I see.... He threw the bullet from Mayberry!
Good arm!
No, silly, he teleported himself using secret technology the government has been keeping secret, which is why it's called secret.
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RE: Aliens (the space kind) - 6/5/2008 5:44:02 PM
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If it's a smoke screen for a toxic waste dump, wouldn't that be counter productive? If one wanted to dispose of toxic wastes, choosing a site that would not attract attention would be the better option.
Back when Area 51 was built, it did not attract attention. In fact, prior to 1990, very people had even heard of Area 51. Until fairly recently, the government officially denied its existence.
Btw, I just found an easily digestible online article about Area 51 and it seems fairly credible. Check out section 12 called, "Cleaning Up Area 51": it seems I'm not too far off-base about the toxic waste.
That assumes that it was not a legitimate site for a toxic was dump. Good grief, it was government land. Presumably they could dump toxic wastes if they wanted. The possibility of an alien landing site is made up stuff.
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RE: Aliens (the space kind) - 6/5/2008 5:46:14 PM
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And I'll be the first to admit that I am as dry and humorless as they come. It's just that I take umbrage to allusions of aluminum foil hats, especially when we are refering to a site (my link) that actually disarms conspiracy theories about alleged secret alien contact at Area 51. Instead, the site gives a nice, reasonably brief history of the place, including the military testing that spawned the mistaken legendary alien contact stories.
But instead of looking, we just assume that ol' Mike here is just another kook who buys into the whole "space aliens & e.t. spacecraft at Area 51" government conspiracy theory, and therefore he must have mined another nut site that panders to that ilk . . .
Sorry. You're going to have to get used to it until the aliens come forward and identify themselves. Frankly, I don't think they exist and the credibility of the true believers sinks lower every year.
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RE: Aliens (the space kind) - 6/6/2008 9:29:09 AM
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That assumes that it was not a legitimate site for a toxic was dump.
Huh? I don't get what you are saying here . . .
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Good grief, it was government land. Presumably they could dump toxic wastes if they wanted.
Apparently so.
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The possibility of an alien landing site is made up stuff.
. . . Largely due to people misunderstanding what they were seeing at a pretty far distance: testing the Stealth Bomber and such. Then once the "aliens" story catches fire, it's all over.
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Sorry. You're going to have to get used to it until the aliens come forward and identify themselves.
Why should I "get used to it?" I don't buy into it. Neither does the article that I provided via link-- and obviously no one has even bothered to glance at.
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Frankly, I don't think they exist and the credibility of the true believers sinks lower every year.
I agree. True believers have no credibility because they are willing to buy into virtually anything.
But be careful how you judge: many Christians are true believers when it comes to allegedly supernatural events like angel sightings, spontaneous "gold dust" and "jewels," trick "prophecies" and the like.
And even when cult leaders are exposed as phonies, the "faithful" keep believing in them anyway.
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RE: Aliens (the space kind) - 6/8/2008 10:56:45 PM
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Good news: Indiana Jones found out what was happening at area 51. I'd tell you, but don't want to spoil the movie (crystal skull)
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RE: Aliens (the space kind) - 6/11/2008 8:20:12 AM
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That assumes that it was not a legitimate site for a toxic [waste] dump.
Huh? I don't get what you are saying here . . .
If it's federal government land, they can get the permits they want. To assume that the land was being used for other things besides waste disposal sites--that does not mean that the waste disposal claim is incorrect.
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Frankly, I don't think they exist and the credibility of the true believers sinks lower every year.
I agree. True believers have no credibility because they are willing to buy into virtually anything.
But be careful how you judge: many Christians are true believers when it comes to allegedly supernatural events like angel sightings, spontaneous "gold dust" and "jewels," trick "prophecies" and the like.
And even when cult leaders are exposed as phonies, the "faithful" keep believing in them anyway.
LOL. I DON'T believe all of the claims Evangelical Christians make. They (my brethren to be sure) have demonstrated the tendency to believe almost anything.
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RE: Aliens (the space kind) - 6/11/2008 10:12:44 AM
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To assume that the land was being used for other things besides waste disposal sites--that does not mean that the waste disposal claim is incorrect.
I agree. However, I don't think that is why they initially built the place. It seems quite clear that it was originally a testing ground for developing military technology, including experimental aircraft. Other kinds of testing went on there as well that very few were privy to and cannot ever disclose. Even personnel that worked at one end of Area 51 had no idea what was going on at the other end-- that sort of thing. Everything was "authorized personnel only" and need-to-know.
Over the years a lot of their operations were dispersed elsewhere leaving Area 51 open to alternate useage, such as toxic waste containment.
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LOL. I DON'T believe all of the claims Evangelical Christians make.
That's good. I can understand a faithful person's need to believe in the miraculous, but one must remain skeptical at the same time for one's own protection from charlatans and cults of personality.
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They (my brethren to be sure) have demonstrated the tendency to believe almost anything.
Unfortunately so. The curious thing about true believers is that not only are they subject to cultish leaders, but that they almost demand them.
No wonder why there are so many evangelists who choose to re-interpret the whole "fields of white ripe for the harvest" commission into a flock-fleecing enterprise.
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RE: Aliens (the space kind) - 7/10/2008 6:08:31 PM
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I also found this interesting
Aliens Caught In An Abduction Attempt On Tape: Analysis Pt1
Everyone seems to be giving this a lot of credit but I don't really see what the big deal is. The video is blurry and I can hardly make out much of it and so what if people found radiation in the area that didn't show up in a few samples that were collected. The area could have a million things around it that could have radiation (and it just so happens that the particular samples they took did not have that radiation), just because they found radiation in the area doesn't mean that alien technology is somehow behind it. I also find it strange that they just happen to be filming themselves throwing a ball around at the time this happened (not saying that they are trying to deceive us, just that it's a little suspicious).
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RE: Aliens (the space kind) - 7/22/2008 9:59:46 PM
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Alien Encounters
If the folks being abducted were being grabbed for scientific purposes then why do they report discussions of philosophy and religion so often?
I think they are demonic and part of the end times deception to cause people's faith to fail.
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RE: Aliens (the space kind) - 7/23/2008 1:46:50 PM
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Alien Encounters
If the folks being abducted were being grabbed for scientific purposes then why do they report discussions of philosophy and religion so often?
I think they are demonic and part of the end times deception to cause people's faith to fail.
I think these are folks with warp-drive imaginations.
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RE: Aliens (the space kind) - 7/26/2008 3:22:42 AM
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The Milky Way is the galaxy which is the home of our Solar System together with at least 200 billion other stars (more recent estimates have given numbers around 400 billion) and their planets. The Milky Way Galaxy belongs to the Local Group, a smaller group of 3 large and over 30 small galaxies, and is the second largest (after the Andromeda Galaxy)
The Milky Way Galaxy
So, say a couple of trillion stars in the Local Group, some of them that "could" be the proper distance from their star for life to exist - lets say one in a million chance - that's 1,000,000 to 2,000,000,000,000 - or - around 2 million or more planets that could hold life.
I'd say, yeah, there's somebody else out there.
I also think that one listen to our radio emissions would scare all but the boldest away. 
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RE: Aliens (the space kind) - 7/26/2008 10:35:16 AM
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A Discovery Channel show on SETI just released that our broadcasts are too weak to be picked up more than 4 light years away because of the dissipation of the signal over the distance from the transmitter. It would take much more technologically advanced radios to pick up an understandable signal past that distance from the source. That may make the search for extraterrestrial life to wasted time.
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RE: Aliens (the space kind) - 7/26/2008 11:23:00 AM
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A Discovery Channel show on SETI just released that our broadcasts are too weak to be picked up more than 4 light years away because of the dissipation of the signal over the distance from the transmitter. It would take much more technologically advanced radios to pick up an understandable signal past that distance from the source. That may make the search for extraterrestrial life to wasted time.
I didn't know that! Thanx.
I'd have to agree; Not sure what we're spending on SETI, but it seems it would be better spent "going out there" then "listening for out there".
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