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Greatest Impact of All Time


The Blackwood Brothers
  10% (6)
The Statesmen
  25% (15)
The Rebels
  0% (0)
The Inspirations
  5% (3)
J.D. Sumner & The Stamps
  5% (3)
Gaither Vocal Band
  11% (7)
The Florida Boys
  0% (0)
Happy Goodman Family
  15% (9)
The Speer Family
  5% (3)
other---explain below
  22% (13)


Total Votes : 59


(last vote on : 9/2/2008 4:20:01 AM)
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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/12/2008 3:54:15 PM   
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Kingsmen and Cathedrals get my vote.

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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/12/2008 4:04:52 PM   
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I voted for the Statesmen. Followed closely by the Blackwood Brothers. The question was Greatest Impact of all time. THese two group have been the measuring stick groups have used since. Also inclluded in my top five would be The Cathedrals, The Happy Goodman Family and Dottie Rambo. The latter because no-one who wrote as many songs as she did and has been recorded by as many groups as her songs has could help but be a big impact.

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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/12/2008 6:22:33 PM   
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I remember many years ago ( about 1960) I heard Jim Hamil say---Boy, I would like to sing across the street from The Blackwoods and Statesmen every night and sing to the people that could not get in---

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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/12/2008 6:45:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Drip

I remember many years ago ( about 1960) I heard Jim Hamil say---Boy, I would like to sing across the street from The Blackwoods and Statesmen every night and sing to the people that could not get in---

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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/12/2008 9:16:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: clout

"Gospel Artist" seems to indicate a singular artist.


I had assumed his intent encompassed (and was possibly predominantly) groups, since he put groups in the accompanying poll.

In the Dove Awards, the "Favorite Artist" award can be either an individual or a group, and whatever Singing News calls their favorite artist award, I believe the rules are the same (even though, due to the nature of our genre, groups tend to lead among the finalists).

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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/12/2008 10:42:35 PM   
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While I put my vote for "other" per the Weatherfords, as I assumed from the poll that groups were what was being looked at. However, in any discussion individuals of great impact on SGM, the name of J. G. Whitfield must be mentioned. He founded three groups including the Florida Boys, and the Dixie Echoes. He held large singings as the one in Atlanta where, at the insistance of Les Beasley, the Inspirations got their big break. Then there is the Gospel Singing Jubilee that is attributed to him. While the Florida Boys were the lead group, it is held to be his idea. Then, there was the Singing News that I believe was his idea also. It began, if I remember correctly, in the Florida Boys office and has grown since. What an impact this one man has had on SGM over the years! Check out the article in the Singing News several months ago on this man.

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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/12/2008 10:45:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Drip

I remember many years ago ( about 1960) I heard Jim Hamil say---Boy, I would like to sing across the street from The Blackwoods and Statesmen every night and sing to the people that could not get in---

Drip



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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/13/2008 3:28:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: CountryPreacher

While I put my vote for "other" per the Weatherfords, as I assumed from the poll that groups were what was being looked at. However, in any discussion individuals of great impact on SGM, the name of J. G. Whitfield must be mentioned. He founded three groups including the Florida Boys, and the Dixie Echoes. He held large singings as the one in Atlanta where, at the insistance of Les Beasley, the Inspirations got their big break. Then there is the Gospel Singing Jubilee that is attributed to him. While the Florida Boys were the lead group, it is held to be his idea. Then, there was the Singing News that I believe was his idea also. It began, if I remember correctly, in the Florida Boys office and has grown since. What an impact this one man has had on SGM over the years! Check out the article in the Singing News several months ago on this man.


Nice reminder for all of us...CountryPreacher!

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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/13/2008 3:33:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Kerrlaw

quote:

ORIGINAL: Drip

I remember many years ago ( about 1960) I heard Jim Hamil say---Boy, I would like to sing across the street from The Blackwoods and Statesmen every night and sing to the people that could not get in---

Drip



Same strategy as putting your law office next to another attorney who charges really high fees.


Mr Kerrlaw, did Somebody just move in on your territory?

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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/13/2008 1:17:44 PM   
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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/13/2008 6:13:32 PM   
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Any gospel historian will tell you that the Statesmen Quartet was THE group that ushered in the era of the male quartet. Before them all quartets were traveling song book salesmen, and only sung songs from the books they sold. The Statesmen changed the very face of how quartets looked, sounded, and prospered. They began doing new and innovative arrangements from songs from all walks of life. Typical convention songs, black blues, Broadway plays, and songs they wrote too. They did not care where a song came from as long as it was good. Their arrangements are hard to duplicate even today, and that said, there are only a handful of groups who can sing complicated arrangements like that even today. I love the Cats as much as anyone, but truth be told, they made a great living copying old Statesmen arrangements.

So I voted Statesmen. Whether you like their style or not, they were the group that started it all.

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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/13/2008 6:23:27 PM   
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Excellent post Ben.

You put into words why I voted for the Statesmen, but I could not say it so eloquently.

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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/13/2008 6:29:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BenHarris

Any gospel historian will tell you that the Statesmen Quartet was THE group that ushered in the era of the male quartet. Before them all quartets were traveling song book salesmen, and only sung songs from the books they sold. The Statesmen changed the very face of how quartets looked, sounded, and prospered. They began doing new and innovative arrangements from songs from all walks of life. Typical convention songs, black blues, Broadway plays, and songs they wrote too. They did not care where a song came from as long as it was good. Their arrangements are hard to duplicate even today, and that said, there are only a handful of groups who can sing complicated arrangements like that even today. I love the Cats as much as anyone, but truth be told, they made a great living copying old Statesmen arrangements.

So I voted Statesmen. Whether you like their style or not, they were the group that started it all.



What time frame are we talking about here?

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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/13/2008 6:38:09 PM   
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They were at their peak in the 1950s Gary. And they set the standard (along with the Blackwood Brothers). I don't believe that any modern group (even Gaither homecoming shows) comes close to drawing the crowds and creating the excitement of the Statesmen.

When they came to town, it was an EVENT.

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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/13/2008 6:57:46 PM   
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Gary, HERE is a link to more info.

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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/13/2008 7:28:57 PM   
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Thanks Mike. I found this to be a very interesting paragraph.

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As early as 1950, the Statesmen used the phrase "Rockin' and rollin'" in a song, and Hovie Lister's frantic boogie woogie piano, piano bench acrobatics, and hair shaken down in his eyes predated Jerry Lee Lewis' use of the same tricks by a good five years.


It is interesting the relationships between various musical genres

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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/13/2008 7:52:45 PM   
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Gary it is also rumored that Elvis copied the leg movements of the Statesmen's Bass Singer Big Chief, James E Wetherington.

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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/13/2008 9:34:48 PM   
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That is what the Wikipedia article said.

Who woulda thunk it that rock and roll is a decedent of Southern Gospel.

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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/13/2008 10:01:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: utilityfielder

That is what the Wikipedia article said.

Who woulda thunk it that rock and roll is a decedent of Southern Gospel.


Rock and roll ain't dead yet.

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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/13/2008 10:12:00 PM   
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That is what I get for automatically accepting the spell check suggestion.

What I meant to say was "descendant"

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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/14/2008 3:45:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BenHarris

Any gospel historian will tell you that the Statesmen Quartet was THE group that ushered in the era of the male quartet. Before them all quartets were traveling song book salesmen, and only sung songs from the books they sold. The Statesmen changed the very face of how quartets looked, sounded, and prospered. They began doing new and innovative arrangements from songs from all walks of life. Typical convention songs, black blues, Broadway plays, and songs they wrote too. They did not care where a song came from as long as it was good. Their arrangements are hard to duplicate even today, and that said, there are only a handful of groups who can sing complicated arrangements like that even today. I love the Cats as much as anyone, but truth be told, they made a great living copying old Statesmen arrangements.

So I voted Statesmen. Whether you like their style or not, they were the group that started it all.




good post....i agree

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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 9/1/2008 6:25:21 PM   
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I think that The Cathedrals were the Greatest Impact, but they weren't up there!
So I voted for The Blackwood Brothers because their the 2nd Greatest Impact!

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