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RE: Has Christianity gone too commercial? - 8/12/2008 8:01:05 AM
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car2ner
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Yes, since I have a fish sticker on my truck (salem communications logo for Atlanta radio station) I have to consider this: If I drive like a brat and someone notices the sticker, then I am setting up a poor witness. If I drive too fast it is again a poor example. If I wanna drive like a putz, I need to take the sticker off the window.
I have seen this on a bumper sticker: Slow me down Lord. I wonder how many speeding tickets they got? Was that their intent? Probably not.
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RE: Has Christianity gone too commercial? - 8/12/2008 8:06:07 AM
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car2ner
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Cultural note- the Mary candles are part of religious tradition, not all that different from communion cups or prayer shawls, and thusly I find it hard to catagorize those in the same situation- though the way/place they are sold is a bit unique...
That doesn't make them any less idols. They are symbols just as much as the other "stuff" christians have around. The fancy communion plates are pretty but they are just stuff. Prayer shawls are another symbol. Christian t-shirts and bumper stickers are symbols. They are meant to identify us with a people group.
I agree with this idea coming through this thread: that once our stuff has identified us as christians, how does our behavior match up? All the "stuff" doesn't speak nearly as loud as our actions.
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RE: Has Christianity gone too commercial? - 8/12/2008 8:09:22 AM
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By the way...
SonInMe shirts are now available in the lobby.
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RE: Has Christianity gone too commercial? - 8/29/2008 9:02:43 PM
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wbporter
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Our community orchestra was the guest of a church for a rehearsal last Spring. With a way-too-big sanctuary (former church there had moved to much larger campus) they carved out two areas in back, one for a visitors welcome/info center and the other for a commercial coffee bar, complete with a cash register and credit card machine.
That was the only time I've seen anything like that in a church on a continuing basis. The only time I can recall where Jesus went ballistic was when merchants were in the temple, but they were swindling the worshipers.
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RE: Has Christianity gone too commercial? - 8/30/2008 10:28:37 PM
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PaleHawkWoman
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This has been a problem since the 1980's. Christians have their own sub-culture where we have "Christian" everything! To quote an old Steve Taylor song:
You'll be keeping all your money
In the kingdom now
And you'll only drink milk
From a Christian cow
Didn't he post a thesis on the internet addressing the commercialization of the Christian Music Industry? I remember reading that and thought it was awesome.
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RE: Has Christianity gone too commercial? - 8/30/2008 10:29:33 PM
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I think that you might be confusing him with Steve Camp instead.
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RE: Has Christianity gone too commercial? - 8/30/2008 10:36:46 PM
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PaleHawkWoman
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I think that you might be confusing him with Steve Camp instead.
Sorry- getting old and it has been what, at least 10 yrs? I DO remember that Mr Camp's music stopped getting airplay right about the time that was posted, now that I think of it.
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RE: Has Christianity gone too commercial? - 8/30/2008 10:39:23 PM
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humbleinspirit
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He is quite outspoken about the music industry and modern day Christianity in general.
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RE: Has Christianity gone too commercial? - 8/30/2008 11:02:26 PM
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No prophet is honored in his hometown, or in this case by his peers. One can look in the forums here and see stuff that ought to be criticized.
I've heard that the reason that God refers to us as His 'Sheep" is that we have a tendency to be short-sighted and stupid, we run with the herd without questioning to see where we're headed, and we're usually concerned only with what is right under our noses.
I think most of us are not wise about the faith because we're too tied up in the religion. Also we do NOT know either Scripture or history well enough to intelligently understand and debate the faith. I am often disappointed with church services because they tend to be more fluff than education- too much feel this or that stuff, too much show. I am often disappointed with local Christian radio because it all sounds the same(bubble-gum pop). I also get kind of fed-up with some study groups because they end up being chit-chat sessions rather than deeper analysis of Scripture, doctrine, and historical perspectives.
There's a phrase "corporate (harlot)" which describes most of Christian industries from the denominations to the publishers to the music industry to the doo-dad's makers to the "cashing in on Christ" businesses. The Devil's best disguise has always been religion.
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RE: Has Christianity gone too commercial? - 9/2/2008 5:52:11 AM
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We have gone way tooo far.
We are taking the Lord's Name in vain, making merchadisers of everyone.
WE should be able to tell a Christian by his/her fruits.
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RE: Has Christianity gone too commercial? - 9/4/2008 8:24:16 PM
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Candy bars, Golf balls with scripture printed on them, t-shirts, you name it, they sell the Christian version. Do you think this type of marketing has gone too far? Or are these things useful for witnessing, making a statement of what we believe?
I believe we are commercializing Christianity way too much. I think it takes away the meaning of the faith.
And I looked at the website, and it supports Pirate Christian Radio. Do Issues Etc! Whoo hoo!
Your sister in Christ Jesus,
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RE: Has Christianity gone too commercial? - 9/4/2008 9:38:27 PM
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risingangel
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Something that has bothered me is the number of businesses that use God's name or a variation of it. I totally understand wanting to give God glory and telling the world that it belongs to God; however, I think we "throw" God's name around without respect.
I've actually dealt with a Christian-run Employment firm called "Highly favored Staffing".
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