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RE: Christians and Voting - 9/4/2008 9:17:35 PM
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You mean those who joined the service of their own free will?
Yes them. The one's that enlisted to defend us. Not to protect the retirement accounts of Bush, Dick, And Don.
Yes them, who made a choice to join the military unlike the unborn who didn't make a choice to be murdered...
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RE: Christians and Voting - 9/4/2008 9:19:14 PM
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you know your right. I guess I take it personal because even tough I've been out of the Army for 8 years, it feels like I'm still in at times. I work on one the most popular Bases in the world, I work for and with men and women in uniform. I get tired of these young men and women coming back in boxes or disfigured. So, yeah I might take it a bit personal, when folks get on here and talk smack about a volunteer Army. Duh! I'm aware of that.
I suggest you don't compare people who can defend themselves against those who can't...
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RE: Christians and Voting - 9/4/2008 10:11:37 PM
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I still dont understand as how can some just decide to ignore that the Iraq war was illegal since the beggining by international laws, the weapons confirmation there were not was just another point to confirm that the law was unjustifiable.
At least to me it does make sense do respect international laws with you are outside our country and trying to enter in any sovereign nation..now, in my mind US and Britain by dishobeing the international law themselves open the the door to others do the same. And I dod think specificaly about the lately Russian excursion to Georgia.
Somebody can answer if in some US minds the illegality of the war is take into consideration? I do know many do not take UN seriously, still international laws are laws, I supose, if not so, better to alert the world.
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RE: Christians and Voting - 9/4/2008 10:32:38 PM
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And I dod think specificaly about the lately Russian excursion to Georgia.
Yeah, that was pretty jacked up of George, Dick and Condi to Condemn Russia for their actions.....I agree that Russia was dead wrong in their actions of attcking a Soverign nation, however, I feel the same way about the aforementioned 3 stooges.
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RE: Christians and Voting - 9/4/2008 10:40:51 PM
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And I dod think specificaly about the lately Russian excursion to Georgia.
Yeah, that was pretty jacked up of George, Dick and Condi to Condemn Russia for their actions.....I agree that Russia was dead wrong in their actions of attcking a Soverign nation, however, I feel the same way about the aforementioned 3 stooges.
why are democrats so mean with their speech?
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RE: Christians and Voting - 9/4/2008 10:44:18 PM
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why are democrats so mean with their speech?
your kidding right? Why is it that Whack jobs like Rush, O' Reilly and that other loon Hannity can say that Democrats hate America, but what Democrats like me are supposed to stand idle, or quiet when the Republican Party can single handedly ruin our Nation? Who really hates America?
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RE: Christians and Voting - 9/4/2008 10:45:26 PM
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besides the Christian in me didn't allow me to say what I really felt like saying. I believe thats called self control.
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RE: Christians and Voting - 9/4/2008 11:00:50 PM
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why are democrats so mean with their speech?
your kidding right? Why is it that Whack jobs like Rush, O' Reilly and that other loon Hannity can say that Democrats hate America, but what Democrats like me are supposed to stand idle, or quiet when the Republican Party can single handedly ruin our Nation? Who really hates America?
So you are saving America one insult at a time?
Btw, I can't stand Michael Savage.
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RE: Christians and Voting - 9/4/2008 11:08:11 PM
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So you are saving America one insult at a time?
Saving America? Not hardley, just Serving her!
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RE: Christians and Voting - 9/5/2008 12:45:26 AM
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besides the Christian in me didn't allow me to say what I really felt like saying. I believe thats called self control.
Doesn't the bible teach about even thoughts being sinful?
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RE: Christians and Voting - 9/5/2008 12:54:03 AM
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Doesn't the bible teach about even thoughts being sinful
Context, context, context...
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RE: Christians and Voting - 9/5/2008 1:30:53 AM
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why are democrats so mean with their speech?
your kidding right? Why is it that Whack jobs like Rush, O' Reilly and that other loon Hannity can say that Democrats hate America, but what Democrats like me are supposed to stand idle, or quiet when the Republican Party can single handedly ruin our Nation? Who really hates America?
Lots of Democrats hate America. They have:
- Called our soldiers stupid (Kerry)
- Called our soldiers terrorists (Kerry)
- Called our soldiers cold-blooded killers (Murtha - I think all those soldiers have been exonerated.)
- Been told that we're not charitable enough by a millionaire who has a brother living in a shack made of garbage (BO)
- Compared our soldiers to Nazis and other brutal barbarians (Durbin)
- Written that they loathe our military (B. Clinton)
- Called our commander in Iraq General Betrayus
- Worked on the Saddam Hussein's legal defense team (Carter's attorney general)
- Tried to force our military off college campuses
- Are passionate about defending flag burning
- Are obsessed with isolated violations of military conduct
- Are consumed with exposing America's spy programs, programs that protect America's military
- Go to churches that preach hatred of America. In BO's church you could hear "God d--- America," and that America created AIDS to kill black people. (BO)
- Think regular American are gun nuts, religious kooks and racists. "..they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them..." (BO)
- Their last presidential candidate spent countless hours saying that our soldiers were guilty of widespread war crimes. His winter soldier meeting were full of hateful lies about our military. That's the kind of serviceman liberals find fit for the Presidency.
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RE: Christians and Voting - 9/5/2008 1:33:54 AM
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Doesn't the bible teach about even thoughts being sinful
Context, context, context...
What is the context? Only thoughts of lust are wrong?
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RE: Christians and Voting - 9/5/2008 1:48:05 AM
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why are democrats so mean with their speech?
your kidding right? Why is it that Whack jobs like Rush, O' Reilly and that other loon Hannity can say that Democrats hate America, but what Democrats like me are supposed to stand idle, or quiet when the Republican Party can single handedly ruin our Nation? Who really hates America?
Lots of Democrats hate America. They have:
- Called our soldiers stupid (Kerry)
- Called our soldiers terrorists (Kerry)
- Called our soldiers cold-blooded killers (Murtha - I think all those soldiers have been exonerated.)
- Been told that we're not charitable enough by a millionaire who has a brother living in a shack made of garbage (BO)
- Compared our soldiers to Nazis and other brutal barbarians (Durbin)
- Written that they loathe our military (B. Clinton)
- Called our commander in Iraq General Betrayus
- Worked on the Saddam Hussein's legal defense team (Carter's attorney general)
- Tried to force our military off college campuses
- Are passionate about defending flag burning
- Are obsessed with isolated violations of military conduct
- Are consumed with exposing America's spy programs, programs that protect America's military
- Go to churches that preach hatred of America. In BO's church you could hear "God d--- America," and that America created AIDS to kill black people. (BO)
- Think regular American are gun nuts, religious kooks and racists. "..they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them..." (BO)
- Their last presidential candidate spent countless hours saying that our soldiers were guilty of widespread war crimes. His winter soldier meeting were full of hateful lies about our military. That's the kind of serviceman liberals find fit for the Presidency.
That. was. awesome.
Somewhere there is a disconnect in the brains of liberals and Dems. They say they love the US, but then they trash it in front of anyone who will listen (and even those who don't want to listen). They say they love their sovereign nation, but then they want us to be "citizens of the world". They say they love this republic, but try to enact socialist agendas as often as possible. They say they support our troops, but jump on every opportunity to insult and persecute them. They say they support the troops, but then do everything in their power to make sure they are demoralized, under equipped, and unwelcome.
I don't get it. If you hate America, then say so.
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RE: Christians and Voting - 9/5/2008 8:25:21 AM
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And no I wasn't kidding.
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RE: Christians and Voting - 9/5/2008 10:16:04 AM
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Called our soldiers stupid (Kerry)
- Called our soldiers terrorists (Kerry)
- Called our soldiers cold-blooded killers (Murtha - I think all those soldiers have been exonerated.)
- Been told that we're not charitable enough by a millionaire who has a brother living in a shack made of garbage (BO)
- Compared our soldiers to Nazis and other brutal barbarians (Durbin)
- Written that they loathe our military (B. Clinton)
- Called our commander in Iraq General Betrayus
- Worked on the Saddam Hussein's legal defense team (Carter's attorney general)
- Tried to force our military off college campuses
- Are passionate about defending flag burning
- Are obsessed with isolated violations of military conduct
- Are consumed with exposing America's spy programs, programs that protect America's military
- Go to churches that preach hatred of America. In BO's church you could hear "God d--- America," and that America created AIDS to kill black people. (BO)
- Think regular American are gun nuts, religious kooks and racists. "..they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them..." (BO)
- Their last presidential candidate spent countless hours saying that our soldiers were guilty of widespread war crimes. His winter soldier meeting were full of hateful lies about our military. That's the kind of serviceman liberals find fit for the Presidency.
How Nice, you can find quotes! All of which don't give a hint of context! Thats like so many of you who can quote the bible(out of context), your memorization skills are just wonderful, now if you can add a lil context to your skills, you'd go places.
I guess the puppets(who support G.W.) 90+ % of the time are the true good guys here. Can you guys for one minute talk about something other than Abortion? Just wondering. I mean if they were to stop completely today, would that really help you feed your family? Would that bring down the price of a barrell of oil?
I believe Americans won't be fooled by the (R) 3 straight elections. And please you can quote me all the numbers you wish, I could care less! I don't stay up at night thinking about how many abortions happened that day, I stay up at night wondeirng if I will have enough to pay the rent and provide my son with a decent Christmas this year. Will he be able to play baseball in the fall(like most kids his age around here) or will that not be a possibility either.
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RE: Christians and Voting - 9/5/2008 10:19:29 AM
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All of which don't give a hint of context!
I love the context arguments, usually thrown about when there is no possible way of refuting the quote presented. Perhaps you could enlighten us as to how ANY of these quotes were "out of context".
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I don't stay up at night thinking about how many abortions happened that day,
People who don't care about the murder of children typically don't....
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RE: Christians and Voting - 9/5/2008 10:25:58 AM
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don't get it. If you hate America, then say so
Please! Actions speak louder than words if anybody hates America it has to be it's Fearless leader. Who weakened a nation by over stretching his Military in a war to benefit his own agenda. How greatly George and Dick profited since Sep. 12 2001. Hmmmm what a coinkidink! I mean get real for just a sec Bushlovers, if we were to get attacked .......again, who would defend us? I hope McWar if elected doesnt pick a fight with Russia, or Iran, cause it will be over then.
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RE: Christians and Voting - 9/5/2008 10:29:10 AM
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How greatly George and Dick profited since Sep. 12 2001
Perhaps you can shows exactly how, and exactly how much George and Dick "profited" from the War after 9/11. Pray tell?
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I hope McWar if elected doesnt pick a fight with Russia, or Iran, cause it will be over then.
For someone who served in the military, you are remarkably ignorant. We don't pick the fights. Afghanistan was started with 9/11 and Iraq wsa started way back in 1991....
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RE: Christians and Voting - 9/5/2008 10:31:31 AM
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All of which don't give a hint of context!
I love the context arguments, usually thrown about when there is no possible way of refuting the quote presented. Perhaps you could enlighten us as to how ANY of these quotes were "out of context".
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I don't stay up at night thinking about how many abortions happened that day,
People who don't care about the murder of children typically don't....
Depends of your definition of when a group of cells form to make a child.
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love the context arguments, usually thrown about when there is no possible way of refuting the quote presented. Perhaps you could enlighten us as to how ANY of these quotes were "out of context".
Hey Genius, you can take Fidel Castro out of context and make him sound like he loves his people. Heck if you take George Bush out of context you might even make an argument that he makes sense....Wow, that would be a heck of a stretch.
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RE: Christians and Voting - 9/5/2008 10:33:22 AM
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So your answer (again) is "No, I cannot demonstrate that these statements have less offensive meaning if taken in the proper context".
Thank you for playing.....
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RE: Christians and Voting - 9/5/2008 10:36:03 AM
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All of which don't give a hint of context!
I love the context arguments, usually thrown about when there is no possible way of refuting the quote presented. Perhaps you could enlighten us as to how ANY of these quotes were "out of context".
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I don't stay up at night thinking about how many abortions happened that day,
People who don't care about the murder of children typically don't....
Depends of your definition of when a group of cells form to make a child.
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love the context arguments, usually thrown about when there is no possible way of refuting the quote presented. Perhaps you could enlighten us as to how ANY of these quotes were "out of context".
Hey Genius, you can take Fidel Castro out of context and make him sound like he loves his people. Heck if you take George Bush out of context you might even make an argument that he makes sense....Wow, that would be a heck of a stretch.
Raphael, please read Psalm 139. It talks about God weaving, knitting us. Funny as it is that when the sperm meets the egg, DNA is made, and it is formed like the shape of a string, a thread, something you knit with. pretty cool, huh???
(not to be tacky or against you)...
one last thing, please don't name call...i was in the military too and was referred to at stupid times as "Genius"...
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RE: Christians and Voting - 9/5/2008 10:37:10 AM
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Ah, let him name call all he wants. It's all the left has at the end of the day, since none of their arguments hold up to scrutiny....
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RE: Christians and Voting - 9/5/2008 10:55:32 AM
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one last thing, please don't name call...i was in the military too and was referred to at stupid times as "Genius"...
I apologize Paul, I guess we Vets might also get the same feeling if called "Hero" remember that?
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RE: Christians and Voting - 9/5/2008 10:57:41 AM
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one last thing, please don't name call...i was in the military too and was referred to at stupid times as "Genius"...
I apologize Paul, I guess we Vets might also get the same feeling if called "Hero" remember that?
of course, but the worst is being called "Devil Dog"...tis why i got out, i prefer first name basis anyway (man life is good right now)...
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