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RE: RNC Convention Thread - 9/3/2008 11:06:03 AM
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tracydolls
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then, i kindly urge you to argue fact that is objective in nature with fair, direct representation. instead of blindly pushing out a fire built upon a racist agenda. believe me, myself and others became lit up at that moment when you did. my goal is not to be right, but for truth to stand out. hopefully, yours is the same oh, and i for one, would welcome you with open arms to my house any day. (i wouldn't want to bash you)... You have'nt set up your PM system. I do want the TRUTH to stand out and IT will no matter how angry I get. I don't have the power to stop Jesus from Shining.
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RE: RNC Convention Thread - 9/3/2008 11:14:23 AM
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todd_t
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Getting back to the issue at hand, here's a first: for months, political observers have noted how neither Obama nor McCain have been able to crack the 50% mark in nation-wide polling. But Obama just did it; according to today's Gallup tracker, he's now up on McCain by 8 points (50-42). http://www.gallup.com/home.aspx
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RE: RNC Convention Thread - 9/3/2008 11:16:49 AM
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tracydolls
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my goal is not to be right, but for truth to stand out. hopefully, yours is the same the truth is that SOME of the Republicans are not very welcoming to others. I really don't think I"m alone in this. There's been probaly studies ad nauseum Back to OP. I have been watching CSPan because they just play the speeches, don't have all the "coverage" from the pundits. I'll be glad when it is over so they can shut up!!!
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RE: RNC Convention Thread - 9/3/2008 11:25:05 AM
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my goal is not to be right, but for truth to stand out. hopefully, yours is the same the truth is that SOME of the Republicans are not very welcoming to others. I really don't think I"m alone in this. There's been probaly studies ad nauseum then, i kindly ask you to set the example. (rather to not be on the defensive, but to argue objectively by using objective facts and directly standing up for them) can we agree on these minimal terms? (at least it isn't parliamentary procedure) peace, friend?
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RE: RNC Convention Thread - 9/3/2008 11:27:35 AM
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huskarine
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ORIGINAL: todd_t Getting back to the issue at hand, here's a first: for months, political observers have noted how neither Obama nor McCain have been able to crack the 50% mark in nation-wide polling. But Obama just did it; according to today's Gallup tracker, he's now up on McCain by 8 points (50-42). http://www.gallup.com/home.aspx all of us have seen insurmountable leads diminish, but if the RNC receives fair media coverage, then there will be some diminishing on that lead. for McCain to win, there will have to be within 2 come november. i think that is possible.
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RE: RNC Convention Thread - 9/3/2008 11:29:09 AM
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Getting back to the issue at hand, here's a first: for months, political observers have noted how neither Obama nor McCain have been able to crack the 50% mark in nation-wide polling. But Obama just did it; according to today's Gallup tracker, he's now up on McCain by 8 points (50-42). Almost an exact duplication of 1988. Don't hang your hat on it for too long.
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RE: RNC Convention Thread - 9/3/2008 11:32:15 AM
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todd_t
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all of us have seen insurmountable leads diminish, but if the RNC receives fair media coverage, then there will be some diminishing on that lead. No lead is insurmountable. I just thought it was interesting that someone finally made 50% in a national poll. It reflects that undecideds are finally beginning to get off the fence.
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RE: RNC Convention Thread - 9/3/2008 11:39:37 AM
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huskarine
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all of us have seen insurmountable leads diminish, but if the RNC receives fair media coverage, then there will be some diminishing on that lead. No lead is insurmountable. I just thought it was interesting that someone finally made 50% in a national poll. It reflects that undecideds are finally beginning to get off the fence. funny as it is, when they do change their minds, AGAIN, (lol), well, they are only proven as undecided.
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RE: RNC Convention Thread - 9/3/2008 11:44:39 AM
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todd_t
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Well, as the political center and undecideds begin to take a stand I think you'll finally begin to see some separation between Obama and McCain in the numbers. But on the other hand, they could be back in a virtual tie within a week. I do agree with those that say Gallup polls are really a snapshot in time, and not reliable predictors for the future. This election is all going to come down to the swing states (again). I do wonder, however, if the GOP's recent, intense overselling of Sarah Palin may backfire on them with voters.
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RE: RNC Convention Thread - 9/3/2008 11:51:24 AM
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all of us have seen insurmountable leads diminish, but if the RNC receives fair media coverage, then there will be some diminishing on that lead. No lead is insurmountable. I just thought it was interesting that someone finally made 50% in a national poll. It reflects that undecideds are finally beginning to get off the fence. the last person to do that.....was...... George W. Bush...in the only poll that really matters....the U.S. Election of 2004. Won with 50.7% of the vote. First to win with over 50% of the vote in a Presidential Election since 1988.
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RE: RNC Convention Thread - 9/3/2008 11:56:52 AM
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I do wonder, however, if the GOP's recent, intense overselling of Sarah Palin may backfire on them with voters. overselling? who gave you the idea of the "overselling" going on over Sarah.......(as if there isn't any going on over Obama).... if anything, sarah is going to "connect" with voters....she's a REAL person....with a REAL family..... and, isn't going to have to "reinvent" herself 20 million times before she finds the "sarah palin" that will appeal to voters......
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RE: RNC Convention Thread - 9/3/2008 12:02:37 PM
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todd_t
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overselling? who gave you the idea of the "overselling" going on over Sarah Um, maybe it has something to do with the skull-ringing degree of spin going on at the RNC convention last night... GOP party faithful and apologists alike are wildly upholding Palin as a divine cross between Joan of Arc, Carol Brady, and Nanook of The North. quote:
if anything, sarah is going to "connect" with voters....she's a REAL person....with a REAL family..... Who doesn't have a REAL family? quote:
and, isn't going to have to "reinvent" herself 20 million times before she finds the "sarah palin" that will appeal to voters...... For her sake, I hope not. She doesn't have the time.
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RE: RNC Convention Thread - 9/3/2008 12:08:06 PM
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tracydolls
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then, i kindly ask you to set the example. (rather to not be on the defensive, but to argue objectively by using objective facts and directly standing up for them) can we agree on these minimal terms? (at least it isn't parliamentary procedure) no no. You set the example. And can you get everyone else to go by your rules, please. Otherwise.....
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RE: RNC Convention Thread - 9/3/2008 12:09:33 PM
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if anything, sarah is going to "connect" with voters....she's a REAL person....with a REAL family..... So the Obamas are not REAL people? A figament of our imaginations?
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RE: RNC Convention Thread - 9/3/2008 12:28:43 PM
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ORIGINAL: todd_t Getting back to the issue at hand, here's a first: for months, political observers have noted how neither Obama nor McCain have been able to crack the 50% mark in nation-wide polling. But Obama just did it; according to today's Gallup tracker, he's now up on McCain by 8 points (50-42). http://www.gallup.com/home.aspx Yes, and right after Boston Kerry was up by what? - 18 - 20 points? Meaningless...
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RE: RNC Convention Thread - 9/3/2008 12:46:23 PM
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May I make a suggestion? I suggest that rather than fall into the trappings of tracydolls and let her hijack every single thread that talks about the Republicans we rather just ignore her rants and stay on topic. I would much rather discuss the RNC than the ravings of someone who is obviously just trying to play games and has nothing serious to contribute to the discussion.
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RE: RNC Convention Thread - 9/3/2008 12:48:52 PM
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Getting back to the issue at hand, here's a first: for months, political observers have noted how neither Obama nor McCain have been able to crack the 50% mark in nation-wide polling. But Obama just did it; according to today's Gallup tracker, he's now up on McCain by 8 points (50-42). May I ask how talking about poll numbers regarding NObama is getting back to this issue at hand? FYI: This is the RNC Convention Thread.
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RE: RNC Convention Thread - 9/3/2008 12:49:54 PM
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todd_t
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Yes, and right after Boston Kerry was up by what? - 18 - 20 points? Meaningless... Would the numbers be as meaningless if they were reversed, and McCain was at 50%? quote:
May I ask how talking about poll numbers regarding NObama is getting back to this issue at hand? Because The Old One and Caribou Barbie are slipping backwards....
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RE: RNC Convention Thread - 9/3/2008 12:53:34 PM
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I do wonder, however, if the GOP's recent, intense overselling of Sarah Palin may backfire on them with voters. Actually I thing you need to worry about how these constant attacks against Palin and her family will backfire against the Democrats. People are really getting angry about this and not just Republicans or Conservatives.
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RE: RNC Convention Thread - 9/3/2008 12:57:28 PM
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Yes, and right after Boston Kerry was up by what? - 18 - 20 points? Meaningless... Would the numbers be as meaningless if they were reversed, and McCain was at 50%? Yes.
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