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RE: Should An Artist 'Hard Sell' Product? - 9/2/2008 11:08:02 AM
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oksgfan
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There are likely many groups that depend on table sales to make ends meet. However, I do not support hard sales or brow beating to get people to buy product. As IndianaPastor said, if the material is something the listeners like, they will buy it.
Also if you are in need of additional table sales, I'd put together a package that entices the listeners to buy.
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RE: Should An Artist 'Hard Sell' Product? - 9/2/2008 12:34:21 PM
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robinashley
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Of course by the same token, there are churches that go out of their way to make it difficult. I had one church that required that I put my product table in a Sunday School room located two flights of steps below the worship center.......needless to say, most folks aren't going to work that hard just for a CD!
So sometimes the host church can be a culprit in your success or failure as well!
Are you serious?!? That's just ridiculous.
I've attended a concert before where the artist talked for a good ten minutes about his product table and the love offering that was about to be taken up. The way in which he did it really didn't rub me the wrong way. He was just getting his message across, "Gas is high and we don't want to stop travelling." I have a feeling they had a pretty good night. Of course, they put on an AMAZING show.
But I think the key to his entire way of thinking was that he never mentioned people NOT giving, he only reiterated how much he appreciated the people who did. So you left feeling positive.
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Also if you are in need of additional table sales, I'd put together a package that entices the listeners to buy.
The last time I was at a Signature Sound concert they were, I'm assuming, trying to move older product, and they GAVE it away. I think I left with six CDs and a DVD for around $30. And they were completely out at the end of the night.
My two cents.
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RE: Should An Artist 'Hard Sell' Product? - 9/2/2008 2:24:19 PM
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MidActsBibleBeliever
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I wish you would name names. If this group realizes the power of the audience to influence their sales, not only at concerts but at retail outlets and online, because of the internet, then they might change their tune.
Years ago, a group could be grade A jerks at one event, because the people attending an event 500 miles away would probably never hear ANYTHING from the other event. You have be careful what you say. Everyone is a keystroke way now.
It's like politics. Back in the old days, a politician could say whatever a crowd wanted to hear at each campaign stop, because it'd be a long time before anyone heard anything about a speech, if ever.
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RE: Should An Artist 'Hard Sell' Product? - 9/2/2008 3:29:30 PM
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Kerrlaw
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I know the economics of our day are lean for everyone. Especially our beloved SG artists.
But how would you feel if during their lengthy sales pitch, an artist (on the second day of a multi-day event) vehemently suggested that the audience hadn't sufficiently supported their particular group by making purchases at their product table the day before? How about if this artist went on to explain that they had turned down TWO paying dates to be a part of this multi-group event? Do you feel this kind of beratement acceptable?
Let's keep this discussion hypothetical. Mentioning actual names aren't important in this discussion, not to mention against forum policy.
They lost me at "lengthy sales pitch".
Almost everybody at a SG concert knows that the artists have a product table. For those who don't, a few sentences from the MC to remind the crowd that each artist has music, etc. for sale in the lobby should be enough. It should just take a few seconds to give notice of "specials".
That's the way Bill Gaither handles it. No one else mentions the tables and Bill spends about 30 seconds on his pitch (45 seconds if he's stammering).
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RE: Should An Artist 'Hard Sell' Product? - 9/2/2008 3:55:47 PM
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MidActsBibleBeliever
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They lost me at "lengthy sales pitch".
Almost everybody at a SG concert knows that the artists have a product table. For those who don't, a few sentences from the MC to remind the crowd that each artist has music, etc. for sale in the lobby should be enough. It should just take a few seconds to give notice of "specials".
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Amen!! I hate those 10 minutes of talking about what is laying on a table 30 feet away!!! Like we can't see it if they don't tell us about it. If you are worred about people not knowing your specials, write it out in marker on a dry erase board. That way, as specials change, you just erase it and write in the next special.
I feel like I am being cheated, if I go to a concert, plop down 20 bucks or so to see someone sing, only to have 10 minutes of the concert taken up telling me about every shirt, hat, sweater, CD and DVD the group has.
I'm surprsised groups don't have people modeling the clothing and break into a Robin Leach voice describing the "magnificent cut of the twill pullover with hand emboidered stitching"
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RE: Should An Artist 'Hard Sell' Product? - 9/2/2008 5:16:48 PM
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frog43
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ORIGINAL: jchaz
I know the economics of our day are lean for everyone. Especially our beloved SG artists.
But how would you feel if during their lengthy sales pitch, an artist (on the second day of a multi-day event) vehemently suggested that the audience hadn't sufficiently supported their particular group by making purchases at their product table the day before? How about if this artist went on to explain that they had turned down TWO paying dates to be a part of this multi-group event? Do you feel this kind of beratement acceptable?
Let's keep this discussion hypothetical. Mentioning actual names aren't important in this discussion, not to mention against forum policy.
I am curious who the artist is, just from the standpoint of avoiding them in the future. But I have a suggestion. Would you please email the artist and ask him/her to look at this thread? That way you don't have to name them, but hopefully they can get the point of what we are all saying.
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RE: Should An Artist 'Hard Sell' Product? - 9/2/2008 5:33:53 PM
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jchaz
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ORIGINAL: jchaz
I know the economics of our day are lean for everyone. Especially our beloved SG artists.
But how would you feel if during their lengthy sales pitch, an artist (on the second day of a multi-day event) vehemently suggested that the audience hadn't sufficiently supported their particular group by making purchases at their product table the day before? How about if this artist went on to explain that they had turned down TWO paying dates to be a part of this multi-group event? Do you feel this kind of beratement acceptable?
Let's keep this discussion hypothetical. Mentioning actual names aren't important in this discussion, not to mention against forum policy.
I am curious who the artist is, just from the standpoint of avoiding them in the future. But I have a suggestion. Would you please email the artist and ask him/her to look at this thread? That way you don't have to name them, but hopefully they can get the point of what we are all saying.
I think this has already been done. Thanks for the suggestion, though. I personally doubt that the artist would even bother to come read these forums.
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RE: Should An Artist 'Hard Sell' Product? - 9/2/2008 5:39:51 PM
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frog43
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Too bad. The saying comes to mind "one bad apple . . ."
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