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RE: Obama On O'Reilly - 9/7/2008 10:53:03 AM
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tafkam
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Hostile? Were we watching the same interview? I couldn't believe how soft O'Reilly was on the man. I had the same criticisms when he interviewed Hillary....
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RE: Obama On O'Reilly - 9/7/2008 11:10:36 AM
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Hostile? Were we watching the same interview? I couldn't believe how soft O'Reilly was on the man. I had the same criticisms when he interviewed Hillary....
In what way could O Reilly have been tougher? He asked the tough questions, Obama answered them. Sometimes O Reilly followed up, sometimes he decided thats as far as he was going to get and let it go. O Reilly's interview with McCain was certainly no tougher. The purpose of an interview to me is to see what the interviewee thinks and let the people decide, not to have a shouting match.
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RE: Obama On O'Reilly - 9/7/2008 11:15:01 AM
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Bill has never hesitated to lay into his guest when he thought they were avoiding a question or spinning an answer, yet he let Hillary and Obama (form what I've seen so far) get by numerous open holes where an issue could have been pressed further.
I didn't see the McCain interview, but I would hope he would grill him just as hard.
I usually like O'Reilly's style, but it appears he left his guts at home when these interviews rolled around.
Maybe the rest of teh Obama interview will get better...
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RE: Obama On O'Reilly - 9/7/2008 3:54:36 PM
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ORIGINAL: tafkam
Bill has never hesitated to lay into his guest when he thought they were avoiding a question or spinning an answer, yet he let Hillary and Obama (form what I've seen so far) get by numerous open holes where an issue could have been pressed further.
I didn't see the McCain interview, but I would hope he would grill him just as hard.
I usually like O'Reilly's style, but it appears he left his guts at home when these interviews rolled around.
Maybe the rest of teh Obama interview will get better...
I wait until the Ayers and Wright quenstioning before I throw Bill under the bus.
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RE: Obama On O'Reilly - 9/7/2008 7:41:01 PM
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Bill has never hesitated to lay into his guest when he thought they were avoiding a question or spinning an answer, yet he let Hillary and Obama (form what I've seen so far) get by numerous open holes where an issue could have been pressed further.
I have a suspicion that O'Reilly chooses his battles - he steamrolls over people he knows he can steamroll over and is more reasonable with people who provide more of a challenge. The Obama interview was pretty fair; I wish they could have gone into more detail about various things, but tv schedules are what they are. You have to be sharp to get to the level that Obama's at and I'm sure O'Reilly recognizes that even if he doesn't agree with the guy's politics. If doesn't do O'Reilly any good to try to get into a shouting match just to have the other guy remain calm AND have answers for everything that's thrown at him. It only makes O'Reilly look like a tool.
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RE: Obama On O'Reilly - 9/8/2008 11:20:27 PM
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Okay, I just watched Part II - It's The Economy Stupid;
O'Reilly pointed out that NObama's numbers are wrong;
-Revenue increased 20% more under Bush than under Clinton
-Income levels aren't down as much as NObama claims and the reasons for the decline aren't as he states either. The reasons Bill cited are due to the influx of immigrants and the lower wages they are being paid.
-NObama refused to give a cap on payroll taxes for people who make over $250k (which includes S-Corp business which are a majority of small business owners)
-O'Reilly pointed out that the increase in capital gains tax will prevent people from investing.
O'Reilly called NObama Robin Hood - taking from the rich and giving to the poor.
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RE: Obama On O'Reilly - 9/8/2008 11:27:01 PM
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They had a lively, entertaining and informative debate. And as he would say, let the people decide.
For the record, I think socialism doesn't work. But both presented their case.
"Robin Hood Obama". I think Julius has more name. Or you (inthysite) could start calling him "Robin Hood Nobama". or "Nobama Hood". Or perhaps "Hoodbama". I love a good natured laugh.
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RE: Obama On O'Reilly - 9/8/2008 11:46:36 PM
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I like the sound of that one but I believe people would take it the wrong way.
You might be right. It was just a harmless attempt at humor on my part. 
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RE: Obama On O'Reilly - 9/9/2008 4:42:00 AM
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Part II was great. O'Reilly a right-winger so naturally he's going to criticise anyone who wants to adopt Robin Hood economics. But Obama really made the case for his economics plans. By the end it seemed that even Billo wasn't as opposed to Obama's economics plans and didn't think they were as crazy as he initially did. I loved when Billo got really rowdy and raised his voice. Obama just laughed, lol. Billo's not intimidating this guy with his loud voice.
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RE: Obama On O'Reilly - 9/9/2008 4:46:39 AM
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Part II was great. O'Reilly a right-winger so naturally he's going to criticise anyone who wants to adopt Robin Hood economics. But Obama really made the case for his economics plans. By the end it seemed that even Billo wasn't as opposed to Obama's economics plans and didn't think they were as crazy as he initially did. I loved when Billo got really rowdy and raised his voice. Obama just laughed, lol. Billo's not intimidating this guy with his loud voice.
You should live in America for a few months to find out what we REALLY need in a President.
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RE: Obama On O'Reilly - 9/9/2008 4:53:19 AM
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Part II was great. O'Reilly a right-winger so naturally he's going to criticise anyone who wants to adopt Robin Hood economics. But Obama really made the case for his economics plans. By the end it seemed that even Billo wasn't as opposed to Obama's economics plans and didn't think they were as crazy as he initially did. I loved when Billo got really rowdy and raised his voice. Obama just laughed, lol. Billo's not intimidating this guy with his loud voice.
You should live in America for a few months to find out what we REALLY need in a President.
Speaking of a few months, it was only a few months ago you argued with me that Obama is the President you REALLY need back when I was supporting Hillary during the primaries. What happened to that? What happened to the inspiration you felt when Obama spoke? What happened to being proud to be a bi-partisan Republican who realised that the other guy is who's right for America right now?
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RE: Obama On O'Reilly - 9/9/2008 4:54:55 AM
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Part II was great. O'Reilly a right-winger so naturally he's going to criticise anyone who wants to adopt Robin Hood economics. But Obama really made the case for his economics plans. By the end it seemed that even Billo wasn't as opposed to Obama's economics plans and didn't think they were as crazy as he initially did. I loved when Billo got really rowdy and raised his voice. Obama just laughed, lol. Billo's not intimidating this guy with his loud voice.
You should live in America for a few months to find out what we REALLY need in a President.
Speaking of a few months, it was only a few months ago you argued with me that Obama is the President you REALLY need back when I was supporting Hillary during the primaries. What happened to that? What happened to the inspiration you felt when Obama spoke? What happened to being proud to be a bi-partisan Republican who realised that the other guy is who's right for America right now?
What happened to the fact that you lie? lol
You know that i voted for Obama back in the primaries and then supported McCain after that. I think its odd that you arent telling anyone on here where you are from. Also a site that has 99% atheists on it.
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RE: Obama On O'Reilly - 9/9/2008 5:02:06 AM
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What happened to the fact that you lie? lol
You know that i voted for Obama back in the primaries and then supported McCain after that.
Actually, you left that other forum before you shifted over to McCain. So it wasn't until I came here that I saw you were a fully fledged McCain supporter. But I kind of expected that. What I didn't expect it that you'd be so anti-Obama now. So I was just wondering if you'd give me a run down of how that transition happened. Because I just interested. That's all.
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I think its odd that you arent telling anyone on here where you are from.
I think I made it very clear in the socialised medicine thread.
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Also a site that has 99% atheists on it.
what?
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RE: Obama On O'Reilly - 9/9/2008 5:07:12 AM
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Thessa
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What happened to the fact that you lie? lol
You know that i voted for Obama back in the primaries and then supported McCain after that.
Actually, you left that other forum before you shifted over to McCain. So it wasn't until I came here that I saw you were a fully fledged McCain supporter. But I kind of expected that. What I didn't expect it that you'd be so anti-Obama now. So I was just wondering if you'd give me a run down of how that transition happened. Because I just interested. That's all.
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I think its odd that you arent telling anyone on here where you are from.
I think I made it very clear in the socialised medicine thread.
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Also a site that has 99% atheists on it.
what?
You already know why. I already told you on that other site.
I dont understand why you are lying at all. I dont really want to, either.
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RE: Obama On O'Reilly - 9/9/2008 5:12:15 AM
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You already know why. I already told you on that other site.
I dont understand why you are lying at all. I dont really want to, either.
What am I lying about? I don't get why you're being hostile. I was just interesting in how you became to be so anti-Obama. Because considering your support for him in the primaries, I thought you wouldn't shifted support to McCain but still acknowledged Obama as a good candidate and a good person. You didn't really share this with me at all. You left before I think you even shifted support. They only hint I got was that you were angry at Obama for "flip-flopping" on some issues. But yeh, I'm pretty sure you left before you became anti-Obama and became a solid McCain support. So I was just interested. No hostility from my end. So sorry if you interpreted it as being hostile.
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RE: Obama On O'Reilly - 9/9/2008 5:17:14 AM
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You already know why. I already told you on that other site.
I dont understand why you are lying at all. I dont really want to, either.
What am I lying about? I don't get why you're being hostile. I was just interesting in how you became to be so anti-Obama. Because considering your support for him in the primaries, I thought you wouldn't shifted support to McCain but still acknowledged Obama as a good candidate and a good person. You didn't really share this with me at all. You left before I think you even shifted support. They only hint I got was that you were angry at Obama for "flip-flopping" on some issues. But yeh, I'm pretty sure you left before you became anti-Obama and became a solid McCain support. So I was just interested. No hostility from my end. So sorry if you interpreted it as being hostile.
Actually i definately interpreted it as you being hostile. Im sorry as well if i was wrong.
As you said - yes i supported him in the beginning in the primaries and then as you know i changed my mind after he won the nomination. You already knew that. Thats when you were hoping he would pick Hillary and i definately dont like her.
Its been about what...? 5 months since i left the other site? I dont even remember. But yes things have shifted since then to being angry about Obama flip-flopping to his distorted view on his religion.
McCain has been my choice since Obama won the nomitation and definately since after the Rick Warren interview.
Usually when you dislike one candidate you vote for the other one.
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RE: Obama On O'Reilly - 9/9/2008 5:19:00 AM
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his distorted view on his religion.
Interesting. What do you mean by that?
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RE: Obama On O'Reilly - 9/9/2008 5:23:46 AM
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his distorted view on his religion.
Interesting. What do you mean by that?
Thats right...you never saw the video did you?
Here it is.
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=B2Kh-xzerjE
After i saw this there was no way i was ever gonna cast my vote for him no matter what he tried to distort in his speeches.
If McCain ever says something like this then i wont vote for him either.
I should tell you that it was after the primaries that i fully decided to learn about every aspect of each of the candidates. I did research. I talked - i listened. Not on here, but offline as well.
Obama is against everything i believe in.
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RE: Obama On O'Reilly - 9/9/2008 5:32:19 AM
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Bob_George
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Thats right...you never saw the video did you?
Here it is.
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=B2Kh-xzerjE
After i saw this there was no way i was ever gonna cast my vote for him no matter what he tried to distort in his speeches.
If McCain ever says something like this then i wont vote for him either.
I should tell you that it was after the primaries that i fully decided to learn about every aspect of each of the candidates. I did research. I talked - i listened. Not on here, but offline as well.
Obama is against everything i believe in.
Wow. Thanks for that. Favourited. I can understand why you didn't like that speech though.
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RE: Obama On O'Reilly - 9/9/2008 6:05:50 AM
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Thessa
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Thats right...you never saw the video did you?
Here it is.
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=B2Kh-xzerjE
After i saw this there was no way i was ever gonna cast my vote for him no matter what he tried to distort in his speeches.
If McCain ever says something like this then i wont vote for him either.
I should tell you that it was after the primaries that i fully decided to learn about every aspect of each of the candidates. I did research. I talked - i listened. Not on here, but offline as well.
Obama is against everything i believe in.
Wow. Thanks for that. Favourited. I can understand why you didn't like that speech though.
Ugh...
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RE: Obama On O'Reilly - 9/9/2008 1:44:35 PM
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By the end it seemed that even Billo wasn't as opposed to Obama's economics plans and didn't think they were as crazy as he initially did. I loved when Billo got really rowdy and raised his voice.
Yeah, as opposed to Part I where I felt Bill-O did a good job of keeping his emotions on an even keel, he looked like a moron while all but jumping out of his chair while "discussing" economic policy with Obama.
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Ugh...
I agree with Bob. I saw that linked Obama speech on religion as being pretty smart, and even-handed.
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RE: Obama On O'Reilly - 9/9/2008 1:59:19 PM
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O'Riely has a tough job, the Obama handlers only gave 30 minutes total for the intervies and Oama tries to bloviate and extend answers as to not have more questions.
I think that so far, Bill has cut the Obama bloviating off in a curteous manner, so as to get to the other questions.
Great theater.
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RE: Obama On O'Reilly - 9/9/2008 2:17:13 PM
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NObama is scheduled to appear on Bill O'Reilly's show tonight at 8:00pm EST.
I have a few initial thoughts on this.
1-It is a shrewd ploy on NObama's side to get himself into the Conservative media during McCain's big night and I really can't blame him for that.
2-He shows he isn't much of a gentleman for the following reason. McCain could have announced his VP pick on the night of NObama's big speech but he said that NObama deserved his night as he would hope the Democrats would allow him to have his. Apparently NObama feels McCain isn't worthy of the same respect that McCain has shown him.
3-Bill O'Reilly just lost some credibility with Conservatives allowing himself to knowingly be used by the NObama campaign and allowing NObama to interject himself on McCain's night and try to steal some of his thunder.
NOTE TO MODS: I accidentally entered this in the wrong folder, could someone please move this to the Elections folder.
How about (4) - O'Reilly intentionally invited Obama to appear on his show inorder to create some believability for the charge that Obama was trying to upstage McCain.
It IS O'Reilly's show, after all. Who do you think decides who to invite on it - and on what nights?
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