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huangshan -> RE: Obama On O'Reilly (9/5/2008 3:29:14 AM)
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ORIGINAL: inthysite
One thing I took away from this interview, the one thing that kept coming to mind was all the criticism McCain takes for being a war monger.
All the liberals make it sound like as soon as NObama is President we will bring all our troops home. Nothing could be further from the truth. NObama wants to withdraw from Iraq, true, but he also want to increase troops in Afghanistan, leave some troops behind in case things flare up in Iraq again, possibly go into Pakistan, and who knows what if Iran goes nuclear.
So to everyone who calls McCain a warmonger I think you need to be fair here and apply the same standards to NObama. The only difference is that McCain doesn't want to withdraw from Iraq before everything is complete.
Also NObama has softened tremendously on his stance about bringing the troups home in 16 months.
As to what "all liberals want to do", well, I'd consider myself a liberal, and I have a decent number of friends who self-identify as liberal... and no, we don't think Obama would withdraw immediately. See, we read up on what Obama says, we occasionally check out his website about what his proposed strategy is etc, etc. No, speaking for at least some liberals, we don't believe Obama's going to have all the troops out the moment he's president. The liberals in your head may disagree with me, may disagree with Obama and disagree with reality, but they aren't "all liberals", they are imaginary liberals that have no bearing on anything in reality.
This does not make Obama a "warmonger". I'm not sure you understand the application of the term if you think it's warranted in this case. McCain called for a strike against Iraq extremely early. McCain was the favorite of the Bill Kristol crowd in the 2000 election because his aggressive and militaristic attitude towards foreign policy already matched theirs (Bush did not come around to Neoconservative ideology until after 9/11, and he has recently become less inclined towards it. McCain has never wavered in that respect. He has always been, roughly, a guns first guy). He has also enjoyed the ability to throw out overheated rhetoric about foreign policy without actually having any consequences--he's a senator, not exactly relevant to a lot of stuff, foreign-policy-wise--but he has not dialed back his rhetoric since becoming appreciably closer to having enormous influence on foreign policy (see: his rhetoric on Russia and Georgia). This should bother anyone with a weariness of unnecessary conflict and tension.
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