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terryjohn -> Reformation or revival? (9/27/2008 3:12:49 PM)

Do these go hand in hand? Can we have one without the other? Can we revive the Spirit within us and not change the way we do things?



OneJohn410 -> RE: Reformation or revival? (9/28/2008 1:53:00 AM)

Do reformation and revival go hand in hand?

Please give us some more info... are you talking about a revival time for a community church, or is this all personal to oneself?

I guess the same is needed for reformation. These are some powerful words, but how are you placing them.

Also, I really like it when things like this share the OP's opinion sometime.[:)]
Thanks!
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ORIGINAL: terryjohn

Do these go hand in hand? Can we have one without the other? Can we revive the Spirit within us and not change the way we do things?



terryjohn -> RE: Reformation or revival? (9/28/2008 2:05:12 PM)

I was wondering that within the church we are all waiting for and praying for revival but history shows us it was usually accompanied by reformation and great turmoil within the church. Are we then secretly resisting revival becasue we fear it does come with reformation and change is the last thing we want?



RJR_fan -> RE: Reformation or revival? (9/28/2008 2:49:59 PM)

A. Reformation within the church leads to revival in the world around the church.
B. A quiet reformation -- a renewed sense of duty towards God, in an area that the church had neglected for more than a century -- has been going on in the USA for several decades.
C. The dog-and-pony shows we stage for our own entertainment don't count as revival. Or revivals. In fact, these frequently hinder the cause of Christ by humiliating the Gospel in the eyes of the world, and distracting Christians from what God is really up to.
D. Revivals usually tend to burn out quickly, and give ground to satanic movements. Mormonism began in the "burned-over district," which produced more religious excitement than could be consumed locally.



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