If Obama is "palling around with terrorists" isn't McCain?
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If Obama is "palling around with terrorists" ... - 10/8/2008 1:47:04 PM
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Longfingers1
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There's an 10 plus page all about how Obama is supposedly "palling around with terrorists" according to the McCain and Palin camp? Well if Obama's association with this domestic terriorist is an issue and should be relevant as many of you here think, should McCain's association with Charles Keating. G. Gordon Liddy, David Ifshin, John K. Singlaub, and ect. are relevant as well?
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RE: If Obama is "palling around with terrorists&qu... - 10/8/2008 1:51:21 PM
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There's an 10 plus page all about how Obama is supposedly "palling around with terrorists" according to the McCain and Palin camp? Well if Obama's association with this domestic terriorist is an issue and should be relevant as many of you here think, should McCain's association with Charles Keating. G. Gordon Liddy, David Ifshin, John K. Singlaub, and ect. are relevant as well?
Which one among that list ever placed a bomb at a government building?
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RE: If Obama is "palling around with terrorists&qu... - 10/8/2008 2:08:02 PM
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There's an 10 plus page all about how Obama is supposedly "palling around with terrorists" according to the McCain and Palin camp? Well if Obama's association with this domestic terriorist is an issue and should be relevant as many of you here think, should McCain's association with Charles Keating. G. Gordon Liddy, David Ifshin, John K. Singlaub, and ect. are relevant as well?
Which one among that list ever placed a bomb at a government building?
Which one of those plotted on killing people? Really... the point is if you're going to really go to this place to where you really think it's important and such an urgent issue to tie Obama to Ayers and say he's "palling" around with him, it's pretty clear the guilt-by-association doesn't fly. Furthermore McCain is closer to those men mentioned than Obama is to Ayers, but I guess according to the way some of you think, it's not a big deal about McCain, let's focus and slander malicious lies about Obama. It doesn't seem right, if you're going to do it for one, shouldn't the examination of McCain's pal come into play as well?
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RE: If Obama is "palling around with terrorists&qu... - 10/8/2008 2:12:50 PM
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I am beginning to think certain people aren't even familiar with the English language. Is 'terrorist' now equivalent to 'bad lobbyist'?
If it is, we need to send the special forces into Washington, because it is crawling with lobbyists. Then again, that may not be a bad idea...
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RE: If Obama is "palling around with terrorists&qu... - 10/8/2008 2:17:35 PM
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I am beginning to think certain people aren't even familiar with the English language. Is 'terrorist' now equivalent to 'bad lobbyist'?
So being ready and acknowledging you're ready to kill someone to carry out a plan, breaking and entering is being a 'bad lobbyist'? Alrighty then...
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RE: If Obama is "palling around with terrorists&qu... - 10/8/2008 2:20:08 PM
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I am beginning to think certain people aren't even familiar with the English language. Is 'terrorist' now equivalent to 'bad lobbyist'?
So being ready and acknowledging you're ready to kill someone to carry out a plan, breaking and entering is being a 'bad lobbyist'? Alrighty then...
Let's see, G Gordon Liddy actually did time for his crime. When was the last time he said that he was proud of the watergate break-in and that he wished he would have done more?
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RE: If Obama is "palling around with terrorists&qu... - 10/8/2008 2:48:28 PM
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So being ready and acknowledging you're ready to kill someone to carry out a plan, breaking and entering is being a 'bad lobbyist'? Alrighty then...
What I find ironic about this is you make these claims about Liddy, who is a blowhard, and hardly an 'associate' of McCain's, and completely accept Obama's association with a man who actually planted bombs and set them off, and planned to kill hundreds.
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RE: If Obama is "palling around with terrorists&qu... - 10/8/2008 3:02:53 PM
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What I find ironic is that you and many other have made claims that Obama is associated with Ayers which makes him "palling around" yet people who are further corrupt and vicious have closer ties to McCain but it in no ways make him an associated with them or "palling around"... okkkkay...
And just so we're clear, it's not okay to plan to kill hundreds, but it's okay to plan to kill several people?... that' what it seems like you're saying...
Well, again, McCain has been on Liddy's radio show; indeed, Liddy has been on other radio shows, including the liberal Al Franken's and in movies by Oliver Stone. That doesn't sound like a person who liberals find terribly threatening.
Obama on the other hand spent nearly a decade funding and organizing with a man who bombed buildings and, except for the incompetentce of his cohorts, was slated to kill hundreds of service men and women.
Why do you keep defending him?
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RE: If Obama is "palling around with terrorists&qu... - 10/8/2008 3:06:27 PM
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Why do you keep defending him?
Why do you keep defending McCain and keep bashing Obama for being associated with a "terrorist"?
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RE: If Obama is "palling around with terrorists&qu... - 10/8/2008 3:13:56 PM
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Why do you keep defending McCain and keep bashing Obama for being associated with a "terrorist"?
Well if McCain had funded and organized with Ayers, I would condemn him as well.
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RE: If Obama is "palling around with terrorists&qu... - 10/8/2008 3:27:49 PM
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How can anyone be "further corrupt and vicious" than those who plan to sabotage and overthrow our government and kill people who might oppose them?
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So being ready and acknowledging you're ready to kill someone to carry out a plan, breaking and entering is being a 'bad lobbyist'? Alrighty then...
What I find ironic about this is you make these claims about Libby, who is a blowhard, and hardly an 'associate' of McCain's, and completely accept Obama's association with a man who actually planted bombs and set them off, and planned to kill hundreds.
What I find ironic is that you and many other have made claims that Obama is associated with Ayers which makes him "palling around" yet people who are further corrupt and vicious have closer ties to McCain but it in no ways make him an associated with them or "palling around"... okkkkay... 
And just so we're clear, it's not okay to plan to kill hundreds, but it's okay to plan to kill several people?... that' what it seems like you're saying...
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RE: If Obama is "palling around with terrorists&qu... - 10/8/2008 4:11:53 PM
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Why do you keep defending McCain and keep bashing Obama for being associated with a "terrorist"?
Well if McCain had funded and organized with Ayers, I would condemn him as well.
Again, where are you getting this "organizing" theme from? They sat on committees and directed where money should go. That's hardly organizing. That's directing. And for a good cause I might add.
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RE: If Obama is "palling around with terrorists&qu... - 10/8/2008 4:17:39 PM
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Jhud
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Again, where are you getting this "organizing" theme from? They sat on committees and directed where money should go. That's hardly organizing. That's directing. And for a good cause I might add.
Obama was the chair of the radical education organization created by Ayers, and your attempt to parse that into an incidental relationship won't work in light of the facts. And if you think radicalizing school children into little leftists is a 'good idea', then you are as scary as Ayers.
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RE: If Obama is "palling around with terrorists&qu... - 10/8/2008 5:37:24 PM
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Still haven't heard why McCain's relationships with Charles Keating. G. Gordon Liddy, David Ifshin, John K. Singlaub, and ect. aren't relevant as well?
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RE: If Obama is "palling around with terrorists&qu... - 10/8/2008 5:41:50 PM
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Still haven't heard why McCain's relationships with Charles Keating. G. Gordon Liddy, David Ifshin, John K. Singlaub, and ect. aren't relevant as well?
Because you really don't know who those people are other than what you parroted from a left-wing site, and they aren't terrorists?
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RE: If Obama is "palling around with terrorists&qu... - 10/8/2008 6:17:06 PM
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Still haven't heard why McCain's relationships with Charles Keating. G. Gordon Liddy, David Ifshin, John K. Singlaub, and ect. aren't relevant as well?
Because you really don't know who those people are other than what you parroted from a left-wing site, and they aren't terrorists?
Okay, first off though I'm voting (even though it's of no concern to you) for Obama/Biden doesn't mean I'm a registered democrat. I don't consider myself left or right, I'm in between actually. I agree with most issues both sides offer, so because I'm not an extremist either way, I do try to see things objectively, something though you may not want to admit (it's ok you don't have to admit, we can all tell by your many responses on this forum).
With that said... I still haven't heard why McCain's relationships with Charles Keating. G. Gordon Liddy, David Ifshin, John K. Singlaub, and ect. aren't relevant as well? Is it because possibly you don't know who those people are, you one parrot from a right-wing stance? That would explain alot...
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RE: If Obama is "palling around with terrorists&qu... - 10/8/2008 8:21:58 PM
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RE: If Obama is "palling around with terrorists&qu... - 10/9/2008 6:24:59 PM
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Here ya go Steph K...
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RE: If Obama is "palling around with terrorists&qu... - 10/10/2008 1:02:09 PM
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Still wating for anyone to say should McCain's association with Charles Keating. G. Gordon Liddy, David Ifshin, John K. Singlaub, and ect. are relevant as Obama's so-called association?
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RE: If Obama is "palling around with terrorists&qu... - 10/10/2008 1:05:50 PM
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Still wating for anyone to say should McCain's association with Charles Keating. G. Gordon Liddy, David Ifshin, John K. Singlaub, and ect. are relevant as Obama's so-called association?
So tell us please - Who are those folks and what is the relationship?
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RE: If Obama is "palling around with terrorists&qu... - 10/10/2008 3:48:24 PM
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In case you haven't heard, McCain was cleared of all charges by a Democrat congress. Not that facts matter to some people.......
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Still haven't heard why McCain's relationships with Charles Keating. G. Gordon Liddy, David Ifshin, John K. Singlaub, and ect. aren't relevant as well?
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RE: If Obama is "palling around with terrorists&qu... - 10/11/2008 12:21:08 PM
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In case you haven't heard, McCain was cleared of all charges by a Democrat congress. Not that facts matter to some people.......
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Still haven't heard why McCain's relationships with Charles Keating. G. Gordon Liddy, David Ifshin, John K. Singlaub, and ect. aren't relevant as well?
Oh, I heard but he's still associated with Keating and many other people who if some of you want to play the guilt-by-association card is just as bad. If you're going to ask of one candidate about their association and "claim" to want more, it would seem you would do that for McCain as well... just to be fair...
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RE: If Obama is "palling around with terrorists&qu... - 10/11/2008 3:24:01 PM
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Oh, I heard but he's still associated with Keating and many other people who if some of you want to play the guilt-by-association card is just as bad. If you're going to ask of one candidate about their association and "claim" to want more, it would seem you would do that for McCain as well... just to be fair...
Here we go again. Bad Lobbyists=Terrorists.
It's an absurd connection.
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