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Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" I he... - 10/10/2008 11:38:54 AM
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Rufas2000
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Sorry for the vague title but I wasn't sure what to name this thread. I'm also think it doesn't really fit here but out of respect for TOS I'll put it here.
Anyway the leader of our singles ministry discussed a very different topic from our usual fare. He revealed that the Lord told him to "get reay, change is coming". He didn't provide many specifics (not sure if he knows or not) but he did say the following:
He is stocking up on food & water.
He is buying items for his family's protection.
It is going to happen soon, whatever it is.
It doesn't matter who wins the Presidential election.
It has nothing to do with the Second Coming.
We should be doing the same.
Being that I don't know this man real well (just found out where he worked last week) I'm not familiar with any filters of interpretation he might have. People tend to view things through their own life filters. I believe he is sincere and that he felt it was his duty to warn us, I'm sure he didn't take any joy in this.
I've noticed a bad spirit recently, especially around this election so it makes me go hmmm.... And of course the economy is tanking but it doesn't seem like nothing we can't get through.
It appears that the change he's alluding to will involve the breakdown of societal structure, both economic (thus the extra food and water) and security (thus the items for protection). The water also makes me think basic services & infrastructure will be down (no clean running water). I'm not sure how widespread he thinks it'll be but he didn't disagree with the lady that speculated on Hurricane Katrina being a precursor to it.
So any thoughts?
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 10/10/2008 3:50:26 PM
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Sounds like he read one too many survivalist newsletters. Or took Terri Blackstock's Night Light series of novels way too seriously.
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 10/10/2008 4:35:29 PM
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Honestly I'm hoping so. But I think he's a good guy, sincere and I always thought he was level headed. But I don't know him real well so I could be wrong. I was trying to find out if others have the same feeling.
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 10/10/2008 10:52:05 PM
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ORIGINAL: Rufas2000
Sorry for the vague title but I wasn't sure what to name this thread. I'm also think it doesn't really fit here but out of respect for TOS I'll put it here.
Anyway the leader of our singles ministry discussed a very different topic from our usual fare. He revealed that the Lord told him to "get reay, change is coming". He didn't provide many specifics (not sure if he knows or not) but he did say the following:
He is stocking up on food & water.
He is buying items for his family's protection.
It is going to happen soon, whatever it is.
It doesn't matter who wins the Presidential election.
It has nothing to do with the Second Coming.
We should be doing the same.
Being that I don't know this man real well (just found out where he worked last week) I'm not familiar with any filters of interpretation he might have. People tend to view things through their own life filters. I believe he is sincere and that he felt it was his duty to warn us, I'm sure he didn't take any joy in this.
I've noticed a bad spirit recently, especially around this election so it makes me go hmmm.... And of course the economy is tanking but it doesn't seem like nothing we can't get through.
It appears that the change he's alluding to will involve the breakdown of societal structure, both economic (thus the extra food and water) and security (thus the items for protection). The water also makes me think basic services & infrastructure will be down (no clean running water). I'm not sure how widespread he thinks it'll be but he didn't disagree with the lady that speculated on Hurricane Katrina being a precursor to it.
So any thoughts?
Are you following his advice? Why or why not?
Did your youth leader say this was a dream, or something heard smack in the middle of his day?
Change is coming... there's three presidential candidates, and the two heard most from are both promising change. What is challenging is that daily circumstances are quickly denounced and change is wanted for the better, when those circumstances have not been around long enough for people to grasp what they are and how they are impacted by them. Someone says they are bad, and someone else says we really need to throw a lot of money at this, and boom! There's the change.
What's going to happen is that people will start seeking stability, and consistancy, in their daily life, and stop all this sudden problem/solution business. Maybe that's what your youth leader is thinking, that he's got to have some constants in life no matter what is breaking down next. Still... day 27 of pork & beans would be really tough.
Share with us how this Sunday sermon impacted your life.
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 10/10/2008 11:50:59 PM
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Honestly I've heard this sort of thing so much before that I default to skeptical. So I'm not doing anything yet.
I don't think the change he speaks of has much (if anything) to do with the Presidential candidates. He specifically said the Election doesn't matter as far as this goes.
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Maybe that's what your youth leader is thinking, that he's got to have some constants in life no matter what is breaking down next. Still... day 27 of pork & beans would be really tough.
Maybe but it seems that he thinks the change will be drastic and soon. He's not in a panic but he's definitely wanting to do this sooner rather than later.
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Did your youth leader say this was a dream, or something heard smack in the middle of his day?
I think more the latter. He just heard or sensed God telling him "Get ready, change is coming". He responded by gettig food, water and protective items.
Thinking back, I'm a bit shaky on the minor details like when or where he heard the "call".
Just for the record: it was the leader of my singles group ministry (a volunteer who knows the Bible but is not in an official position) and the "sermon" was not on Sunday in a church but rather on Thursday in a coffee shop. I'm not sure how much that matters but there it is.
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 10/14/2008 8:33:03 PM
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I've actually heard this from several people that God told them something bad is going to happen very soon involving the economy, social structure, etc and and we need to get ready. I have a feeling something is going to happen and it won't be pretty. In fact, God really placed upon my heart to keep up with my tithes. It will keep the enemy away. I believe we should be ready. I do believe something is up, but I don't know what it is. And I know it won't be pretty.
You said you are a skeptic to all of this, but if several people are getting the same thing, you might want to listen. Of course, it's your choice. I choose to follow God's advice.
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ORIGINAL: Rufas2000
Sorry for the vague title but I wasn't sure what to name this thread. I'm also think it doesn't really fit here but out of respect for TOS I'll put it here.
Anyway the leader of our singles ministry discussed a very different topic from our usual fare. He revealed that the Lord told him to "get reay, change is coming". He didn't provide many specifics (not sure if he knows or not) but he did say the following:
He is stocking up on food & water.
He is buying items for his family's protection.
It is going to happen soon, whatever it is.
It doesn't matter who wins the Presidential election.
It has nothing to do with the Second Coming.
We should be doing the same.
Being that I don't know this man real well (just found out where he worked last week) I'm not familiar with any filters of interpretation he might have. People tend to view things through their own life filters. I believe he is sincere and that he felt it was his duty to warn us, I'm sure he didn't take any joy in this.
I've noticed a bad spirit recently, especially around this election so it makes me go hmmm.... And of course the economy is tanking but it doesn't seem like nothing we can't get through.
It appears that the change he's alluding to will involve the breakdown of societal structure, both economic (thus the extra food and water) and security (thus the items for protection). The water also makes me think basic services & infrastructure will be down (no clean running water). I'm not sure how widespread he thinks it'll be but he didn't disagree with the lady that speculated on Hurricane Katrina being a precursor to it.
So any thoughts?
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 10/15/2008 7:08:10 PM
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You said you are a skeptic to all of this, but if several people are getting the same thing, you might want to listen. Of course, it's your choice. I choose to follow God's advice.
You've been the first in this thread to say that others are saying the same thing. Thanks for the response.
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 10/16/2008 9:44:02 AM
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But I think in times like right now... when there is a lot of fear and uncertainty about things happening in the world, these attitudes/feelings/whatever are VERY common.
I think it is ALWAYS a good idea to have food/water stocked (to an extent) and to be prepared in whatever way is needed.
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 10/16/2008 6:42:59 PM
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I think it is ALWAYS a good idea to have food/water stocked (to an extent) and to be prepared in whatever way is needed.
Quoted for truth.
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 10/17/2008 2:34:46 PM
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I've actually heard this from several people that God told them something bad is going to happen very soon involving the economy, social structure, etc and and we need to get ready. I have a feeling something is going to happen and it won't be pretty. In fact, God really placed upon my heart to keep up with my tithes. It will keep the enemy away. I believe we should be ready. I do believe something is up, but I don't know what it is. And I know it won't be pretty.
You said you are a skeptic to all of this, but if several people are getting the same thing, you might want to listen. Of course, it's your choice. I choose to follow God's advice.
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ORIGINAL: Rufas2000
Sorry for the vague title but I wasn't sure what to name this thread. I'm also think it doesn't really fit here but out of respect for TOS I'll put it here.
Anyway the leader of our singles ministry discussed a very different topic from our usual fare. He revealed that the Lord told him to "get reay, change is coming". He didn't provide many specifics (not sure if he knows or not) but he did say the following:
He is stocking up on food & water.
He is buying items for his family's protection.
It is going to happen soon, whatever it is.
It doesn't matter who wins the Presidential election.
It has nothing to do with the Second Coming.
We should be doing the same.
Being that I don't know this man real well (just found out where he worked last week) I'm not familiar with any filters of interpretation he might have. People tend to view things through their own life filters. I believe he is sincere and that he felt it was his duty to warn us, I'm sure he didn't take any joy in this.
I've noticed a bad spirit recently, especially around this election so it makes me go hmmm.... And of course the economy is tanking but it doesn't seem like nothing we can't get through.
It appears that the change he's alluding to will involve the breakdown of societal structure, both economic (thus the extra food and water) and security (thus the items for protection). The water also makes me think basic services & infrastructure will be down (no clean running water). I'm not sure how widespread he thinks it'll be but he didn't disagree with the lady that speculated on Hurricane Katrina being a precursor to it.
So any thoughts?
I have to be honest, I'm a real live procrastinator, and I've been hearing (in my mind or spirit) for the last month "Be ready always". I'd been contributing it my mom who is 92 and my aunt who is 94; thinking maybe it was getting close to their time to go home and prepare myself, But the last newsletter I received from a ministry I've contributed to since the early '70's, had these words:
"Our desire and intention is to keep you posted, hoping to interpret and provide needed guidance for us all as we embrace and, hopefully, emerge whole and healthy within our own sets of circumstances. Our present national situation has the potential of being far more reaching and much more impacting than we are able to perceive at this moment in time. I feel like I would like to send each of you the bumper sticker which says: The events on this calendar are closer than they appear!"
After reading it  , the OP to this thread, and this Post, I'm thinking there is truly something to this --- just wish I had an idea what it is.
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 10/22/2008 9:30:18 PM
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But I think in times like right now... when there is a lot of fear and uncertainty about things happening in the world, these attitudes/feelings/whatever are VERY common.
I think it is ALWAYS a good idea to have food/water stocked (to an extent) and to be prepared in whatever way is needed.
Tara P
Well, Tara, I would agree if I wasn't hearing the same thing from people in different parts of the world. It's the same message over and over. Be ready, be ready. It's not fear, it's more of a warning. In fact God laid upon my heart today that the enconomy is going to get worse, but if we as Christians cling to Jesus and not our wallets, we'll make it through and some will even become prosperous b/c of Jesus while the those in the world will lose everything. The world will sit back and say, what's up with you??? The world will be angry and Jealous of us b/c of God's favor. There's a scene in Twister at the end when the two main characters tied themselves around a pole while the twister spun around them. God told me, you do the same. Don't moan and groan about gas prices, (they will go back up.), food prices, lost jobs, bankruptcies, banks closing, etc. just cling to Him, keep your eyes on Him. It's going to be a very bumpy ride!! I believe if it was just fear guiding everyone, then each message would be different, based on that person's fear and concern. Instead it's the Holy Spirit telling His children to not fear and trust Him.
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I have to be honest, I'm a real live procrastinator, and I've been hearing (in my mind or spirit) for the last month "Be ready always". I'd been contributing it my mom who is 92 and my aunt who is 94; thinking maybe it was getting close to their time to go home and prepare myself, But the last newsletter I received from a ministry I've contributed to since the early '70's, had these words:
"Our desire and intention is to keep you posted, hoping to interpret and provide needed guidance for us all as we embrace and, hopefully, emerge whole and healthy within our own sets of circumstances. Our present national situation has the potential of being far more reaching and much more impacting than we are able to perceive at this moment in time. I feel like I would like to send each of you the bumper sticker which says: The events on this calendar are closer than they appear!"
After reading it , the OP to this thread, and this Post, I'm thinking there is truly something to this --- just wish I had an idea what it is.
I just received another warning from another ministry, same message as what your ministry said. This ministry said God will protect us in the eye of the storm. It won't touch us. It's going to get rough, but hang onto Jesus, trust only in Him and hang on!!! My pastor at my church said God is shaking the world and everything that isn't firm in Him will fall. AS long as you keep your eyes on Jesus, you'll be sitting pretty. Just do what He tells you to do. Don't let the economy direct your decisions. If God tells you to open a business, do it. Sell your house, do it. Don't look to the left or the right, just keep your eyes on Him. :) Don't worry, He'll take care of you, He promised!!!
I want to also add, the Lord laid upon my heart, don't scrimp on your tithes. Giving tithes means you trust God. It will be like the blood on the door posts during Moses' time. The angel of death passed over those houses with the blood, while killing the first born of those who didn't trust God. Now God's not going to kill your kids, but if you trust God even with your money, then the enemy can't touch you. So keep giving to God!! Don't shortchange Him hoping to save money!!
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 10/24/2008 11:35:17 AM
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I also keep hearing: "Re-read --- Daniel 1: 1, and, chapter 3, especially verses 15 - 18 (And --- Daniel 3:27-29) , study, meditate on, and see it (no it is not Nebuchadnezzar, Babylon or Jerusalem, but same principle) in the light of - If it be so, do in like manner --- this is your example!"
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 11/2/2008 6:39:19 PM
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I see what you're saying, Pat. Don't bow down to society and their does and don'ts. Bow down to God. That's good!! I really feel that the Christians, and I mean those who gave their hearts to Jesus and have made Him their Lord and Savior, not those who go to church once a week and wrap themselves in religion, will be protected from everything. But those who wrap themselves in religion will have a very tough time. God is faithful to the end and He will protect us!!! Don't be rattled!!
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 11/3/2008 8:12:42 AM
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I see what you're saying, Pat. Don't bow down to society and their does and don'ts. Bow down to God. That's good!! I really feel that the Christians, and I mean those who gave their hearts to Jesus and have made Him their Lord and Savior, not those who go to church once a week and wrap themselves in religion, will be protected from everything. But those who wrap themselves in religion will have a very tough time. God is faithful to the end and He will protect us!!! Don't be rattled!!
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You may find this interesting [A Pastoral Letter; MOTIVATED TO CHANGE]; I found much truth and meaning here to stabilize my fears of the unknown days, weeks, months and years ahead.
Here are a few quotes from the Letter:
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The Lord has led me back to the prophets—and specifically, Isaiah—to remind me that in seasons of great change, He raises up prophets to give Divine guidance. Prophets typically understand the past, see the future, and address the present. They do so in the spirit of revelation and insight.
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The issues before us are much greater than the housing crisis, the stock market, and high gas prices. They are fundamentally spiritual in nature and revolve around our personal response to God andHis word.
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What we have heard from Isaiah should make us know that God knows everything. That should cause us to humble ourselves, repent, and volunteer for His purpose in the earth. It should cause us to be prepared for trial and hope for mercy, to seek justice and mercy for others, and to live the life of a Kingdom citizen while in this world. Remember, no one can do that for us. It is a personal matter that we be changed and become prophetic lights in a world of darkness. I pray that Isaiah can motivate us to change. The name “Isaiah” means, “Jehovah is salvation.” He still is.
http://www.csmpublishing.org/pastoral_full.php?pastoral=112
Have a Great Day!
God bless,
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 11/5/2008 7:46:20 PM
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Ok, this is really weird b/c I just got off the phone with my friend who is in chicago at a Christian conference and one of the teachers there said basically the same thing you just said in the above post. And as you just posted, this will bring trial and mercy, so the teacher at the conference said these upcoming years will bring trials to Christians and many pastors will go to prison b/c they refuse to do homosexual marriages and refuse to accept homosexuality. He said Christians will be persecuted b/c we refuse to bow down to the idols and gave the reference to Daniel 3, the same as you did above.
She also said the teacher felt God was saying this will separate the wheat from the weeds. The strong in the Lord will grow stronger and those who depend upon their doctrine to save them, or Obama, or themselves, or those who aren't obedient to the Lord will fall away.
In fact, God laid upon my heart today after I whined about Obama being my president then I prayed for him that God was saying, Man wanted a king instead of Me, fine, he has a King. He wants to control his environment, fine, control it without Me or My counsel. But I'll take care of My children who will prosper while you run after your king, singing Hallelujah for our new Savior. (Sarcasm mine. :) )
Once Obama goes after the super rich, taxing the dickens out of them, (and I pray Obama won't be able to touch them, but I think he will b/c he promised to do it) it will trickle down to the little man and I wonder how many jobs will be lost b/c now the super rich who own Walley World, Sears, Penny's etc. will not be able to afford all their workers or stores? But God has laid upon my heart, As Obama hacks at the pillars supporting the country, God will cocoon His kids, protecting them as the economy's ceiling comes crashing down. IT will be the Christians who love God and make Him their refuge who will survive the next four years. And the world will hate us even more. It will be a very interesting next 4 years.
God also laid upon my heart that His hand isn't on Obama b/c he doesn't seek God's face and Obama will make some pretty bad mistakes b/c of it. People wanted a savior without holes in his hands and won't tell them what to do and they got it, and boy did they get it!!!! I also sense that there has been a release of His power over Christians, supplies I guess, that will help them through the tough times. His provisions pouring down on us to prepare us for what lies ahead.
In other words, He's supplying money to pay off mortgages, loans, bills, securing jobs, positions, etc. So when it hits, we'll be alright, while the rest of the world falls at their demi-god's feet, begging for him to help them. (Hopefully this will turn Obama and others to God, but we'll see. ) God also laid upon my heart not to be afraid when the waters rise, but know He'll protect His kids. It will be alright for us, but not for the world.
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The Lord also showed me that it's not that we didn't pray hard enough for McCain, it's just that God said, I'm done. They want a holeless savior, they can have one. It's interesting b/c she said another teacher at her conference said the same exact thing.
It's pretty wild when I keep hearing the same things repeated at the same time in one day from people all over the United States. It would be one thing if folks repeated this stuff over a time period, but when it all comes in at one time, then that's God moving!!! As you had said above and I'm going to repeat it b/c my friend heard it at her meeting and God is also confirming it on my heart:
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The issues before us are much greater than the housing crisis, the stock market, and high gas prices. They are fundamentally spiritual in nature and revolve around our personal response to God and His word.
Put your seatbelt on, baby, it's going to be a bumpy ride. Hang onto Jesus with both hands. And poor Rufus, here he thought it was just a small change going on in society. Who'd had thunk God's Spirit would move so much in ONE day!!!!
Edit: Let me add one more thing. Most christians aren't going to want to hear this and will fall away, bowing down to the idols instead. Keep your eyes glued on Jesus, no matter what they say.
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 11/16/2008 5:39:13 PM
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It's pretty wild when I keep hearing the same things repeated at the same time in one day from people all over the United States. It would be one thing if folks repeated this stuff over a time period, but when it all comes in at one time, then that's God moving!!!
And yet Added to this it's even wilder when we hear conformation and variation to things we have heard and/or even shared ourselves in the past; it seems to all be coming together like puzzle pieces in making a picture for our understanding.
I'm sorry, I've been pretty sick for well over a week, still am, but I really wanted to a least share the following with you:
This first one my dh got in an email from a friend of ours:
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Ask Pat if she is aware of this web site. Considering the "unusual" fires in Cal. I'm thinking this site may be on target.
Here
And this one I got a card with my monthly news letter that read:
The Next Revival
In this series, CHARLES SIMPSON issues a prophetic vision and call for the Church to connect with the Lord and His harvest field. He takes a fresh look at Jesus and Isaiah (focusing on Isaiah 58-61, as well as Luke 4) as Jesus declares His mission. Just like Jesus,we need to receive the anointing of the Lord and the revelation of His purpose in order to fulfill His call. As we look to Jesus, we can see more clearly what God has saved us FROM, and what He has saved us FOR.
dh downloaded this one for me from
HERE
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 11/17/2008 7:46:52 AM
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I have felt since this race for the white house started that if Obama got elected then change would come, change for the worse, and quickly. I myself have spent the last year or so wandering and not seeking God. Recently some painful events shifted my focus back to Jesus and now I am trying to grow stronger in Him. I believe He let me go through those hard times so I would see my need to become rooted in Him before all hell breaks loose-and it will. My mom and I have talked about how our nation has become like the Israelites when they demanded a king and got Saul. We got Obama but he'll never be my savior. We already have our King. Sit tight people, we already know the good guy wins. 
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 11/18/2008 4:16:28 PM
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It's pretty wild when I keep hearing the same things repeated at the same time in one day from people all over the United States. It would be one thing if folks repeated this stuff over a time period, but when it all comes in at one time, then that's God moving!!! As you had said above and I'm going to repeat it b/c my friend heard it at her meeting and God is also confirming it on my heart:
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I'm truly curious. All of these doom and gloom folks don't happen to be white, do they?
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 11/18/2008 4:18:11 PM
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It's pretty wild when I keep hearing the same things repeated at the same time in one day from people all over the United States. It would be one thing if folks repeated this stuff over a time period, but when it all comes in at one time, then that's God moving!!!
And yet Added to this it's even wilder when we hear conformation and variation to things we have heard and/or even shared ourselves in the past; it seems to all be coming together like puzzle pieces in making a picture for our understanding.
I'm sorry, I've been pretty sick for well over a week, still am, but I really wanted to a least share the following with you:
This first one my dh got in an email from a friend of ours:
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Ask Pat if she is aware of this web site. Considering the "unusual" fires in Cal. I'm thinking this site may be on target.
Here
And this one I got a card with my monthly news letter that read:
The Next Revival
In this series, CHARLES SIMPSON issues a prophetic vision and call for the Church to connect with the Lord and His harvest field. He takes a fresh look at Jesus and Isaiah (focusing on Isaiah 58-61, as well as Luke 4) as Jesus declares His mission. Just like Jesus,we need to receive the anointing of the Lord and the revelation of His purpose in order to fulfill His call. As we look to Jesus, we can see more clearly what God has saved us FROM, and what He has saved us FOR.
dh downloaded this one for me from
HERE
HERE
Seriously? The fires are not unusual. They happen every year.
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 11/18/2008 9:05:12 PM
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Milliecat
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It's pretty wild when I keep hearing the same things repeated at the same time in one day from people all over the United States. It would be one thing if folks repeated this stuff over a time period, but when it all comes in at one time, then that's God moving!!! As you had said above and I'm going to repeat it b/c my friend heard it at her meeting and God is also confirming it on my heart:
kim
I'm truly curious. All of these doom and gloom folks don't happen to be white, do they?
I guess it didn't make any difference to you that most of the people in the crowd in Grant Park the night of the election were white. Anyone who doesn't see him as Mr. Wonderful must be white, huh?
And I don't see this as doom and gloom. I am looking up, for my redemption draweth nigh. Well, maybe Jesus won't come in my lifetime but I'll see Him one way or another!
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 11/18/2008 10:18:55 PM
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Some things do happen on a fairly regular basis, like the fires in California. There seem to be a lot of earthquakes in the far east and the Pacific Ocean. We have hurricanes every year in the south and eastern seaboard, tornadoes in the midwest. We also have 24hr. news now so some of these things are covered minute by minute and appear more dramatic than in the past.
But something is different now. I don't know what exactly. We all know that we are to watch the signs of the times but we have been watching for a long time. We can be tempted to say, "Oh, these things happen every year" right when Jesus is at the door. So we need to stay watchful and be ready.
Thanks for your post, Dancre. I've been feeling anxious for a couple of months, feeling that something is about to happen, just not sure what.
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 11/18/2008 11:45:28 PM
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It's pretty wild when I keep hearing the same things repeated at the same time in one day from people all over the United States. It would be one thing if folks repeated this stuff over a time period, but when it all comes in at one time, then that's God moving!!! As you had said above and I'm going to repeat it b/c my friend heard it at her meeting and God is also confirming it on my heart:
kim
I'm truly curious. All of these doom and gloom folks don't happen to be white, do they?
I am truly curious. What does gloom and doom have to do with racism?
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 11/18/2008 11:59:21 PM
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Whether or not we are headed for dark days ahead may be debateable. There are good economic signs mixed in with very dire economic signs. What is not debataable is that we are in very rough economic times, not only in America, but throughout the world. These rough economic times may very well have started more than eight years ago and have yet to fully run their course.
If we are headed for rough times, just what is so wrong with being prepared, as much as possible, for the worse?
Flat out denying that gloom and doom may be around the corned does absolutely nothing to help one prepare for them if and when they do come.
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