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RE: Thoughts on Soloists vs. Groups - 10/19/2008 11:34:26 AM   
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I probably would not like soloist either. Seriously I am a quartet man but I do like a few soloist.
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RE: Thoughts on Soloists vs. Groups - 10/19/2008 12:21:10 PM   
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Come on guys. There is no one posting on here that is a bigger fan of an all male four part harmony quartet than I am. Although I have my favorites I will listen to any of them. In my opinion there is nothing prettier that a tight harmany done right by four men. But, lets look at this thing through history. Quartets started out with the sole purpose of selling songbooks. It evolved into Southern Gospel with quartets traveling and singing just for the singing with no books to sell. When Mr. Sumner and Mr. Blackwood started the NQC the vast majority of groups involved in Southern Gospel was male quartets. It was only natural to call it the National Quartet Convention. However, like Southern Gospel the conventions has evolved into what we have today. Change is not always bad. Had we limited things to male quartets think of all the greats we would have missed. The Spear Family, The Happy Goodmans, The Hinsons, The Rambos, and are you ready for this? Bill Gaither. Yes he started out as The Bill Gaither Trio. What would Southern Gopsel be like without these great family groups and trios. If you don't like the trios or duets or soloist simply don't listen to them. But please don't advocate leaving them all out. The industry would suffer greatly.



I agree with you Sam. It takes all different type groups to make up Southern Gospel. I happen to enjoy all of then different make-up of the many different groups.

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RE: Thoughts on Soloists vs. Groups - 10/19/2008 2:32:37 PM   
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I prefer to listen to music by talented people who can sing on key with verve and energy that will make me feel connected with the music, no matter how many people are singing.

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RE: Thoughts on Soloists vs. Groups - 10/19/2008 3:17:46 PM   
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Come on guys. There is no one posting on here that is a bigger fan of an all male four part harmony quartet than I am. Although I have my favorites I will listen to any of them. In my opinion there is nothing prettier that a tight harmany done right by four men. But, lets look at this thing through history. Quartets started out with the sole purpose of selling songbooks. It evolved into Southern Gospel with quartets traveling and singing just for the singing with no books to sell. When Mr. Sumner and Mr. Blackwood started the NQC the vast majority of groups involved in Southern Gospel was male quartets. It was only natural to call it the National Quartet Convention. However, like Southern Gospel the conventions has evolved into what we have today. Change is not always bad. Had we limited things to male quartets think of all the greats we would have missed. The Spear Family, The Happy Goodmans, The Hinsons, The Rambos, and are you ready for this? Bill Gaither. Yes he started out as The Bill Gaither Trio. What would Southern Gopsel be like without these great family groups and trios. If you don't like the trios or duets or soloist simply don't listen to them. But please don't advocate leaving them all out. The industry would suffer greatly.
Well spoken Sam. Let's worship the good Lord no matter who or how many are singing.

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RE: Thoughts on Soloists vs. Groups - 10/20/2008 10:13:00 AM   
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Personally, I prefer to listen to someone who isn't running around and jumping all over the stage. The times I have seen Ivan Parker I thought he displayed just enough energy and he can tell some funny stories and he is certainly not boring. I always leave his concerts with that warm and fuzzy feeling when the Lord blesses us with his Holy Spirit. But that is just me........
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RE: Thoughts on Soloists vs. Groups - 10/20/2008 10:19:19 AM   
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Personally, I prefer to listen to someone who isn't running around and jumping all over the stage. The times I have seen Ivan Parker I thought he displayed just enough energy and he can tell some funny stories and he is certainly not boring. I always leave his concerts with that warm and fuzzy feeling when the Lord blesses us with his Holy Spirit. But that is just me........



Yep. Anyone who left that Ivan Parker concert in Rising Fawn in August and wasn't moved and blessed must have had their soul's door closed, locked, and heavily chained. That was a great evening of praise and worshiping God in song.

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RE: Thoughts on Soloists vs. Groups - 10/20/2008 10:35:47 AM   
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Amen Dana! That concert was awesome! Did you have a nice birthday?
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RE: Thoughts on Soloists vs. Groups - 10/20/2008 10:54:31 AM   
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I can guarantee you one thing - there are a bunch of Missourians who love him. (Right Matt)?


When he sang ""I Got Here As Fast I Could" back in April, there wasn't a dry eye in the building of over 2,000 people!!!!! I guess us Ozarkians love our SG no matter who's singing...... as long as the Lord's moving souls, it doesn't matter!

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RE: Thoughts on Soloists vs. Groups - 10/20/2008 12:07:27 PM   
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Amen Dana! That concert was awesome! Did you have a nice birthday?



It was a good one! I hope to have a whole bunch more!

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RE: Thoughts on Soloists vs. Groups - 10/20/2008 12:28:11 PM   
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Come on guys. There is no one posting on here that is a bigger fan of an all male four part harmony quartet than I am. Although I have my favorites I will listen to any of them. In my opinion there is nothing prettier that a tight harmany done right by four men. But, lets look at this thing through history. Quartets started out with the sole purpose of selling songbooks. It evolved into Southern Gospel with quartets traveling and singing just for the singing with no books to sell. When Mr. Sumner and Mr. Blackwood started the NQC the vast majority of groups involved in Southern Gospel was male quartets. It was only natural to call it the National Quartet Convention. However, like Southern Gospel the conventions has evolved into what we have today. Change is not always bad. Had we limited things to male quartets think of all the greats we would have missed. The Spear Family, The Happy Goodmans, The Hinsons, The Rambos, and are you ready for this? Bill Gaither. Yes he started out as The Bill Gaither Trio. What would Southern Gopsel be like without these great family groups and trios. If you don't like the trios or duets or soloist simply don't listen to them. But please don't advocate leaving them all out. The industry would suffer greatly.



I agree with you Sam. It takes all different type groups to make up Southern Gospel. I happen to enjoy all of then different make-up of the many different groups.

I agree with both of you...of course by my screen name you can tell my favorite group happens to be a trio.

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RE: Thoughts on Soloists vs. Groups - 10/20/2008 5:09:53 PM   
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Personally, I prefer to listen to someone who isn't running around and jumping all over the stage. The times I have seen Ivan Parker I thought he displayed just enough energy and he can tell some funny stories and he is certainly not boring. I always leave his concerts with that warm and fuzzy feeling when the Lord blesses us with his Holy Spirit. But that is just me........


Just to be clear, I was not bored by Ivan Parker. I thought he was very good, as I said before. I just think that quartets have a different kind of energy, not necessarily "running around and jumping all over the stage".

I probably wouldn't have even thought about the difference, if the group that was opening hadn't really blessed the crowd and really just tore it up.
That's the first time that I have ever seen an "opening" group upstage the main act. The Browders were phenomenal.
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RE: Thoughts on Soloists vs. Groups - 10/21/2008 11:51:49 PM   
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I can guarantee you one thing - there are a bunch of Missourians who love him. (Right Matt)?


When he sang ""I Got Here As Fast I Could" back in April, there wasn't a dry eye in the building of over 2,000 people!!!!! I guess us Ozarkians love our SG no matter who's singing...... as long as the Lord's moving souls, it doesn't matter!


I can testify to that too!!! (That was the concert at the Baptist College, right)?

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RE: Thoughts on Soloists vs. Groups - 10/22/2008 2:50:06 PM   
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I can guarantee you one thing - there are a bunch of Missourians who love him. (Right Matt)?


When he sang ""I Got Here As Fast I Could" back in April, there wasn't a dry eye in the building of over 2,000 people!!!!! I guess us Ozarkians love our SG no matter who's singing...... as long as the Lord's moving souls, it doesn't matter!


I can testify to that too!!! (That was the concert at the Baptist College, right)?


Correct!

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RE: Thoughts on Soloists vs. Groups - 10/22/2008 3:44:35 PM   
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Personally, I prefer to listen to someone who isn't running around and jumping all over the stage. The times I have seen Ivan Parker I thought he displayed just enough energy and he can tell some funny stories and he is certainly not boring. I always leave his concerts with that warm and fuzzy feeling when the Lord blesses us with his Holy Spirit. But that is just me........

Ivan will be at Macland Baptist in Powder Springs on Feb 8.

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RE: Thoughts on Soloists vs. Groups - 10/22/2008 10:34:02 PM   
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Posting blind here.

I love almost all Southern Gospel, whether sung by male quartets, mixed quartets, trios, duos, or solos.

I agree that it is difficult for a soloist to generate the energy level of a group without having a live band. The one person that I've seen pull it off consistently is Michael Combs. He can make a Baptist shout, raise their hands and walk the pews.

Other soloists that I have enjoyed immensely include Mike Bowling, Ivan Parker, Jessy Dixon, Kirk Talley, Gerald Crabbe, Tony Gore, Lynda Randle, Janet Paschal, Alison Durahm Speer, and Candy Christmas. This is representative and I'm sure that I've left a favorite or two out.

I've seen many of them at Gaither events, when they are backed by a full band (and a choir) and the soloist in these situations can generate as much excitement as a group.

My ideal concert lineup would include at least one soloist in addition to three groups (and maybe a comedian).

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RE: Thoughts on Soloists vs. Groups - 10/23/2008 7:38:24 AM   
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I guess I will chime in. I like it all. The variety is what drew me to Southern Gospel Music. I can get bored easily if listening to a specific style at any length of time. If Southern Gospel was made up of just all male quartets I would've stopped listening a long time ago. Don't get me wrong I like quartets, but for me a perfect concert is having a solo artist open the show with a 20 minute set, then have a great trio (all male/mixed/all female), then a really great mixed quartet and then an all male quartet.
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RE: Thoughts on Soloists vs. Groups - 10/23/2008 7:51:17 AM   
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I guess I will chime in. I like it all. The variety is what drew me to Southern Gospel Music. I can get bored easily if listening to a specific style at any length of time. If Southern Gospel was made up of just all male quartets I would've stopped listening a long time ago. Don't get me wrong I like quartets, but for me a perfect concert is having a solo artist open the show with a 20 minute set, then have a great trio (all male/mixed/all female), then a really great mixed quartet and then an all male quartet.


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RE: Thoughts on Soloists vs. Groups - 10/23/2008 8:17:19 AM   
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I guess I will chime in. I like it all. The variety is what drew me to Southern Gospel Music. I can get bored easily if listening to a specific style at any length of time. If Southern Gospel was made up of just all male quartets I would've stopped listening a long time ago. Don't get me wrong I like quartets, but for me a perfect concert is having a solo artist open the show with a 20 minute set, then have a great trio (all male/mixed/all female), then a really great mixed quartet and then an all male quartet.


You don't ask for much, do you?!?!?!?


Just trying to offer everyone in Southern Gospel a little representation. Actually Abraham Productions' events at Myrtle Beach and Gatlinburg seem to do this fairly well. Each evening program is packed with variety. That is why I plan on going back to Myrtle Beach in April '09.
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RE: Thoughts on Soloists vs. Groups - 10/24/2008 10:05:54 AM   
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I thinks a soloist usually does best in a church service setting.

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RE: Thoughts on Soloists vs. Groups - 10/24/2008 2:36:14 PM   
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I'm not a SG artist, but I am a solo performer. After reading this thread, if I were SG, I'd be shaking in my boots before walking onstage for my next gig! Some of the posts are brutal!

C'mon people! Not everybody can be in a group. I'd love to be, but God has placed me in a solo ministry. Everybody has their place, and I've seen great solo concerts and boring-as-watching-paint-dry groups.

Just take the good wherever you can find it...don't automatically write off some poor guy just because he has to stand onstage alone.....

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RE: Thoughts on Soloists vs. Groups - 10/24/2008 4:18:02 PM   
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I'm not a SG artist, but I am a solo performer. After reading this thread, if I were SG, I'd be shaking in my boots before walking onstage for my next gig! Some of the posts are brutal!

C'mon people! Not everybody can be in a group. I'd love to be, but God has placed me in a solo ministry. Everybody has their place, and I've seen great solo concerts and boring-as-watching-paint-dry groups.

Just take the good wherever you can find it...don't automatically write off some poor guy just because he has to stand onstage alone.....


I don't write anybody off before I see them. I went to LMU specifically to see Ivan Parker!!!
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RE: Thoughts on Soloists vs. Groups - 10/24/2008 4:36:19 PM   
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A lot has to do with personal tastes.

I perfer group harmony on most occassions but on the other hand,
I enjoy listening to (example) Gordon Mote, just him and the piano.

To me, Ivan Parker is one of the best solo SG artists on the road today.
As someone already said, it's that "warm & fuzzy" feeling you receive
leaving the concert.
He makes you feel comfortable no matter the setting and his song
arrangements are "pleasant to the ears".
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RE: Thoughts on Soloists vs. Groups - 10/24/2008 8:10:02 PM   
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Just got to make one post here. Glad some are standing up for the soloist. I agree some comments have been rather harsh (Brutal). I enjoy Soloist, Duets, Trios, Quartets, Mixed Groups. Would never, ever put one down, especially in an open forum like this. Really gets my blood pressure up seeing some of the posts.
I made a post here a few days ago but deleted it after a few hours. Trying to keep the mods from sending me PM's.

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RE: Thoughts on Soloists vs. Groups - 10/25/2008 9:08:38 AM   
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I went back and re-read all the posts and didn't see anything I would call brutal. I'm not sure what your definition of brutal is, but I think of a "brutal" post being one where you say something about the way a singer looks, about his family, about what kind of bus he drives, etc...
This was about a type of music group. I don't think I read the first post where anyone made fun of, derided, belittled, or humiliated any singer or group.
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RE: Thoughts on Soloists vs. Groups - 10/26/2008 10:09:49 AM   
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I prefer a group over a soloist. However, there are several soloists I do like. I just like listening to good southern gospel music no matter who (Quartet, Trio, Soloist, etc.) is singing it.
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