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RE: Is being overweight a sin? - 10/25/2008 11:25:43 PM
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Ps103
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Being fat is not a sin. Being fat-headed is a sin, though.
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RE: Is being overweight a sin? - 10/26/2008 5:28:24 PM
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LOL.
Reading this thread I am reminded of studying about a man when I was in High School that wanted to create a perfect race of people. All blond, blue eyed and perfect physical specimens. He was also not opposed to exterminating anyone that did not fit that profile. Surely we as Christians are not going to let history repeat itself or worse yet condon it. No one is a perfect example of physical perfection. We all have flaws. What's next? Is it a sin to be to tall, to short, to skinny, to bald. Watch it Qtman you done stopped preaching and gone to medlin now.
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RE: Is being overweight a sin? - 10/26/2008 6:40:52 PM
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What is gluttony anyways? It is not limited to food, but maybe an excess of money and greed even.
And there are other things where you can abuse your body, like abusing perciption drugs and non-precrition drugs as well.
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RE: Is being overweight a sin? - 10/27/2008 10:02:44 AM
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i don't know what goes on in a person's life that would allow them to grow to that size. i have personally known one SSW (super size woman) who was at a normal weight, living a very active lifestyle when she had a car accident that threw her all out of balance.
well maybe i can help you on how a person grows in size. A person is 180 when they get married, they have 2 kids which put on 20 pounds each (your supposed to gain some weight when pregnant).. now the weight doesn't get lost after each baby, now your up to 240. Then the person eats a bit much and about 20 more pounds creep up in a couple years. Then the person goes into severe trauma and eats in order to deal with the stress, and puts on another 20 pounds, or 30.. now the person weights about 275. then the woman goes on a diet and fails and then the weight creeps up again plus adding more.. now the person weights 290. now then person goes thru a couch potato stage, doesn't go out dancing anymore because the nightclub is behind her, now that she is saved, she doesn't go to the gym anymore because now she is involved in church, and she really likes to go out to eat,, now that weight creeips up to 300.
That is a true story.. it creeps up on a person little by little.. Each time a diet is tried, lose weight, and then she takes back her eating habits, she gains weight plus a litle more... over a period of 6-10 years, the person can add on all those pounds. and then if a person doesn't watch it, you can add on a few pounds per year, maybe 10 ,, easy.. it creeps in.. coz she's not watching it, and inputting more calories than outputting.. add that to the mix and voila,, she is now 300 pounds. Easy. and not all from gluttony all the time.
just to clarify so i am not misunderstood, i wasn't talking about how people who are 300lbs get to be that size. i do not consider a person who weighs 300lbs to be super sized. i am talking about people who weigh in excess of 600-900lbs. that is a massive amount of weight, even if it creeps up. (and if you are not disabled or wheel chair bound, it's difficult to imagine that amount of weight just creeping up. but again, i'm sure it does happen. i'm nowhere near that large and i am sure people wonder "how i let myself get this way' all the time. )
the person who weighs 300 pounds probably isn't immobile and just uses excuses to stop going out, doing things they once loved to do because they think they are too fat to do it anymore, etc.
i.e., i am very active in church and it doesn't take away from the fact that i can still be active in my gym. just because one goes to church doesn't mean that one can't find 20 minutes 3 times a week to put movement into their lives, gym or not.
the next time you go to the grocery store, just park at the far end of the parking lot...every little bit helps, and you always have time for some sort of movement. don't let being overweight keep you from moving. not only will you continue to put on those creeping pounds, but you will become more and more depressed about it. this is of course, my .02, so feel free to ignore it.
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RE: Is being overweight a sin? - 10/28/2008 1:33:14 PM
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Being overweight, IMO in most cases IS sinful.
First off we have to define what sin is.
Sin is disobedience to God - lawless.
1Jo 3:4 Everyone who practices sin also practices lawlessness; and sin is lawlessness.
Sin is not doing what we know to be right.
Jam 4:17 Therefore, to one who knows the right thing to do and does not do it, to him it is sin.
Sin is not acting in faith.
Rom 14:23b and whatever is not from faith is sin.
Anything that comes up short of God's glory is sin.
Rom 3:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
So if we know it is not right to be overweight; or if God has not specifically told us to be overweight either in the Bible or revealed it to us personally; if we are lawless in what or how much we eat; and if God's glory is not served by our being overweight, it is sin.
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RE: Is being overweight a sin? - 10/28/2008 2:32:19 PM
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being overweight itself is not a sin. you can be thin and overeat. i suppose that by being fat, it appears that you are sinful because you must have done 'something' to get that way. however, there are multiple factors behind what causes one to be fat. overeating is just one way to get there. some have a genetic pre-disposition to hang on to every fat cell, some have a sickness or disease and becoming fat is a symptom of that. you just can't really look at a person, and by looking at them determine that they are sinning.
also, gluttony is more than just eating too much food. it is too much of anything, too much money, too much alcohol, too much surfing the internet. if it is something you have to do that overshadows all else, i would say it is gluttony.
of course, there will be people who will post here that will say that being overweight itself is sinful...and to that person i would say...."i hope you greet me with a hug when i see you in heaven, because fat or not, that's where i will be one day"....all the skinny people will be shocked, for sure 
I agree this was a good post.
I had avoided this thread before but couldn't help it anymore. lol.
I just wanted to say, "Being overweight was a sin only if you're fat."
Just kidding of course. But that was my thought when I first saw the title.
There are many determinations why so many are over weight.
When you get old and get heavier, you may be looking into the health
areas of life.
I have been one of those. And find there are so many things against us
to stay at our ideal weight.
Much of the "chemicals" in our food supply is to blame.
Even the "healthy" food is void of nutrition.
Political pundits are all talking about "health care."
But, if we would out law the processing of our food sources like some
of the other countries, we would not have the health problems and
obesity we have today.
Yes, diet and activity are the two key elements of health.
But many eat right, exercise and still die a slow death.
How many times have I lost the 50 pounds I carry? sheesh.
All skinny people think fat people are yukky.
We had a pastor that ate more than many of us combined.
But, he was always alike a skeleton. No adipose (fat) cells.
Some people actually smell food and gain weight.
their adipose cells inflame with the smell. lol.
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RE: Is being overweight a sin? - 10/28/2008 2:34:33 PM
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a weight that insurance companies have deemed appropriate.
By the book I should weigh 170 pounds.
But I've been skinny and I've been and am fat.
When I am at 205 pounds is when I'm the most alive
and strong. So, my body tells me 205 is my ideal weight.
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RE: Is being overweight a sin? - 10/28/2008 2:41:01 PM
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a weight that insurance companies have deemed appropriate.
By the book I should weigh 170 pounds.
But I've been skinny and I've been and am fat.
When I am at 205 pounds is when I'm the most alive
and strong. So, my body tells me 205 is my ideal weight.
Excellent post. I have weighed 145 lbs and 200 lbs. I find my most comfortable weight to be around 185lbs. However the charts say I should weigh 165 lbs.
While I am at it I think this is one of the silliest threads going. Everything "can" be a sin. Posting to much on the forums "can" be a sin. But being overweight in and of itself is not a sin.
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RE: Is being overweight a sin? - 11/3/2008 2:02:33 AM
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This discussion fascinates me. I didn't know that people really thought about things like this! I myself don't usually care to associate with fat people in general because I find them sloppy and unattractive, but I make exceptions. My accountant is about 350 pounds and he does a great job and is also very funny.
Regarding the sin part, I'll leave that to the religious folks, but what about people like Jerry Falwell and Bill Bennett, or even the pope, who's sort of pudgy?
In school, most of the priests and some of the sisters were pretty chubby. I'd blame it on the vows of celibacy, but we all know how seriously those are taken (or not).
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RE: Is being overweight a sin? - 11/4/2008 12:59:58 AM
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So if we know it is not right to be overweight; or if God has not specifically told us to be overweight either in the Bible or revealed it to us personally; if we are lawless in what or how much we eat; and if God's glory is not served by our being overweight, it is sin.
Generally, I like and read your posts, and enjoy your wisdom, Dave, but this one left me wondering if someone hacked your account.
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RE: Is being overweight a sin? - 11/4/2008 6:54:43 AM
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just to clarify so i am not misunderstood, i wasn't talking about how people who are 300lbs get to be that size. i do not consider a person who weighs 300lbs to be super sized. i am talking about people who weigh in excess of 600-900lbs. that is a massive amount of weight, even if it creeps up. (and if you are not disabled or wheel chair bound, it's difficult to imagine that amount of weight just creeping up. but again, i'm sure it does happen. i'm nowhere near that large and i am sure people wonder "how i let myself get this way' all the time. )
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yes thank you ,, i understood ya... :) but i cant imagine how a person's knees must hurt and the damage they are doing as to wear and tear on the joints and stuff, when they are 900 pounds,, then they are bedridden about that time. Discovery Channel has some excellent programs about people that are in this situation.
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RE: Is being overweight a sin? - 11/4/2008 2:08:45 PM
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replace the words "fat people" with "black people" or "bald people" or "short people" or "asian people" or "stupid people"
I do associate with black people, asian people, and short people, because they are that way from birth.
I do not usually associate with stupid people either, unless they amuse me somehow.
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RE: Is being overweight a sin? - 11/4/2008 3:04:23 PM
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! I myself don't usually care to associate with fat people in general because I find them sloppy and unattractive
Amazingly, you have articulated perfectly why I don't associate with pompous self-inflated jerks.
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RE: Is being overweight a sin? - 11/4/2008 4:59:21 PM
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Amazingly, you have articulated perfectly why I don't associate with pompous self-inflated jerks.
Very happy to be of assistance, in return for the considerable aid you have given me.
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