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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 10/22/2008 7:45:30 PM
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TorchHeart
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Yes, that is true. Maybe not of significance to us now, but I have to be convinced that it was of significance to them then! Just have to! It would be silly of Jesus to write something, have it mentioned in the Bible that He wrote it, and then it just be some nonsense. That wouldn't be the case, I don't think...
That's the case here, though. Probably because He either A) Didn't write anything of importance, or B) Didn't write anything at all.
As we've established.... its a detail.
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 10/22/2008 7:48:56 PM
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But Jesus stooped down.
I think He was trying to show them Who He is.
He was willing to come down to her level, the level of a sinner.
But Jesus stooped down.
Proud men won't stoop.
And with His finger He wrote on the ground.
Perhaps He wrote, "I love her."
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 10/22/2008 7:55:04 PM
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But Jesus stooped down.
I think He was trying to show them Who He is.
He was willing to come down to her level, the level of a sinner.
But Jesus stooped down.
Proud men won't stoop.
And with His finger He wrote on the ground.
Perhaps He wrote, "I love her."
Wow. You posts are always a pleasure to read. You really have a heart for the Lord. May God bless you LL.
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 10/22/2008 9:05:00 PM
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I dunno either - but it might have been interesitng!
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 10/22/2008 9:43:56 PM
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My Bible notes that this particular section was not in the original manuscripts. So maybe it did not happen?
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 10/22/2008 10:00:22 PM
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I mean, if you can find another example of where Jesus did something without a purpose (aka, doodled his time away, or did nothing in bordem), I would accept that as valid answers... but I think Jesus was always about His Father's business, doing or saying something of significance.
When the Apostles where in the boat Jesus slept when the storm came. In the bible it states they woke Him, for they feared for their live.
Since Jesus is always about His Father's business, what was He dreaming of?
Surely you jest just a speculation?
As far as the writing in the sand, I would compare it to Beltshazzar with the writing on the wall. A message that truly sent a shiver up their spine!
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 10/22/2008 11:45:29 PM
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I was thinking about this "writing everyone's sin" in the dirt concept.
Is that something that Jesus would do? Broadcast different individuals sins to a whole crowd like that?
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 10/22/2008 11:53:09 PM
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Superman's maybe? 
I'm sorry, man. I couldn't resist.
But seriously, don't you think that if what He was drawing on the ground was important, one of the writers of the Gospels would've made sure to put what it was into their book? Again, why I lean to the idea that what was written wasn't of importance.
Now, if you want to find importance in the act itself, I think that's possible. For example, as I mentioned, Christ KNOWS He's being tested here. Could this hesitance to respond be a sign of how highly he holds the potential ramifications of this situation?
I'm just saying that if were going to speculate, which we must if we are going to have an idea of what was written, I'm just saying... lets speculate in sincerity. Jesus wrote something with his finger, and I don't think he was playing pictionary, that's all. I mean, the question is asked, "What did He write?" We know that He wrote something... so if we are going to speculate some answers, lets speculate some answers that are in line w/ His character :).
Sorry I'm coming in late on this
I believe totally that every detail of scripture is in some way important
So the fact that He wrote something is significant
But so too is the fact that God chose not to reveal to us what He wrote.
Sorry if that sounds Yoda-ish
But we will have to wait till were with Him for the answer on that one 
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 10/23/2008 12:02:41 AM
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Diz,
Great point! Thanks for jumping in!
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 10/23/2008 10:52:40 AM
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I was thinking about this "writing everyone's sin" in the dirt concept.
Is that something that Jesus would do? Broadcast different individuals sins to a whole crowd like that?
No I don't think that is something He would do. So I agree with your point. As I said before, could you imagine just how much time that would take, and the area He would need to fill it. I don't think that is what happened.
Maybe it was just those that were guilty of the same sin, an affair. Then again, He did say that even thinking those things makes us guilty of adultery, so again it would require more than just a little writing.
Maybe it was just the name of the man involved who was not brought before Him.
Maybe it was like LL said, that He loves her.
Or forgives her.
Then again, maybe He wasn't doodling to ponder what to say, but to raise the anticipation for His response. You know, keep em waiting. Not because He didn't know what to say, but because He wanted them to calm down, and anticipate what He was going to say. To actually hear it.
Then He stooped back down let it sink in. They all left.
I don't know the reason, but it was written for a reason. Which is for us to learn from it.
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 10/23/2008 11:16:23 AM
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I read this from some scholarly person a while back and I'm sorry I can't give you a reference, but it went like this--Look at the law of jealousy in Numbers 5:11-31. Here's an excerpt:
Then the priest shall write these curses in a book and wash them off into the water of bitterness. And he shall make the woman drink the water of bitterness that brings the curse, and the water that brings the curse shall enter into her and cause bitter pain.
(Numbers 5:23-24)ESV
His take on it was that Jesus may have been insinuating that everyone there would have to go through this Scriptural test before He would have approved the stoning. Go back up to Numbers 5:17:
And the priest shall take holy water in an earthenware vessel and take some of the dust that is on the floor of the tabernacle and put it into the water.
(Numbers 5:17)ESV
Was Jesus acting as the priest and writing appropriate curses from these verses in the dirt?
They sought to challenge Christ on a point of law and He responded with another point of law, and if this speculation is correct, he went beyond applying it only to an accused woman and challenged the men--who knew they could not pass the test.
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 10/23/2008 11:22:20 AM
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Pure speculation...
Many have said that He was writing out the names & sins of those the accusers were having sexual affairs with. In other words... they themselves were guilty of the same.
While I have always thought it was something like this, it doesn't really matter what He wrote. Whatever it was, His desired result was achieved...the men were convicted of their sin.
"So when they continued asking Him, He raised Himself up and said to them, "He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first." 8 And again He stooped down and wrote on the ground. 9 Then those who heard it, being convicted by their conscience, went out one by one, beginning with the oldest even to the last." -John 8
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 10/23/2008 12:23:30 PM
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I was thinking about this "writing everyone's sin" in the dirt concept.
Is that something that Jesus would do? Broadcast different individuals sins to a whole crowd like that?
To hypocrites, yes, it is something He did. And, these people were hypocrites, as Jesus said that he without sin should cast the first stone.
Refer to the "Woe's" Jesus broadcast against them (Matthew 23). Also take note of Jesus calling out of Judas at the table, and his rebuke of Peter when He said, "Get behind me satan." Jesus may have just wrote the SINS, and those witnessing what He wrote may have known that the sin applied to them. Jesus wouldn't have had to write their names.
See, even if we don't know exactly what Jesus wrote, the mystery of *what He wrote* begs the question... and it causes us to look into scripture, evaluate His character, and in turn... better know how we should behave. All scripture is profitable for doctrine :).
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 10/23/2008 5:34:13 PM
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from what i have collected from reading this excerpt of the bible is that he was just scribbling nothing more nothing less I believe if it was more the GOD would have made it much clear...and no other translations or earlier writing suggest that either...
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 10/23/2008 6:04:33 PM
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sadly, i'm learning that things turn nasty on this forum pretty quickly... wow. let me say this, for the most part, i agree with d4nnyb0y02. i think this is a fair, light-hearted topic... a really good one in a forum like this. my opinion is that he was writing down sins of her accusers, after all, something prompted them all to get the heck out of there...
but, i would like to add this... Jesus wasn't stumped by this... He knew exactly what to say and do, I don't believe He needed time to think, or figure out a way to answer properly... Jesus and the Father are One, He didn't have to think of the right answer, He already knew it.
i guess, in my opinion, it all boils down to the question, "do you believe that every word in the bible is the inspired Word of God?" this story begins the 8th chapter of John. the author, John the apostle, thought this detail important enough to mention twice... and, in most english translations records it as "wrote on the ground". in the 28th verse of this chapter Jesus says, "I do nothing on My own initiative, but I speak these things as the Father taught Me. (emphasis mine)
if every word of the bible is God's Word, then we must conclude that God wanted it recorded for a reason. it must have some level of significance, there aren't any idle words in the scriptures and nothing is there for filler. :) i've read my favorite books, Hebrews and Romans too many times to count, yet i get something new every time i read them...
God's Word has too many dimensions for us to conclude that this was just an insignificant detail.... that's my two cents... :)
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 10/23/2008 6:11:17 PM
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He wrote, "Note to self - my disciples will think I'm talking about bread when I tell them to beware of the yeast of the Pharisees."
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 10/23/2008 7:19:20 PM
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He wrote "Jesus" in cursive.
He drew a happy face.
He dropped something small and was fishing it out of the dirt.
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