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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 10/28/2008 4:29:05 PM
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d4nnyb0y02
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I think you took this WAY too seriously.
Or it may be that you didn't take it serious enough. We do draw our own conclusions.
Be blessed brother. :)
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 10/28/2008 4:37:46 PM
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TorchHeart
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I think you took this WAY too seriously.
Or it may be that you didn't take it serious enough. We do draw our own conclusions.
Be blessed brother. :)
There was nothing to take seriously. Dude, you're good. I like a lot of the stuff you post on here. You usually have some decent stuff.
This one, though... Sorry.
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 10/29/2008 2:31:07 AM
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No, I most certainly wouldn't say that I love Him more. I'm as capable of failing to love Him as the next person. However, I did find what you said to be rather irreverant and insincere. As you pointed out, you speculated that Jesus drew a Batman logo on the ground when saving a woman from most certain death by the hands of the hypocritical Pharisees that brought her to Him.
I told you that it wasn't a speculation that he actually drew that. I said that to make a point: Scripture does not say, and I don't see the point in speculating.
I don't appreciate you judging how I view my Savior based off this.
In addition, I don't see how drawing a Batman logo is against the nature and character of Christ.
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 10/29/2008 5:04:30 PM
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It is interesting the various views some believers have expressed. It is pure speculation and has led to some serious discussion and some accusations of insincere love towards Jesus or the lack of a serious heart towards the gospel.
I feel it is God who gave us a sense of humor and He may have got a chuckle out of some the answers, but then He already knew what answers were stored in our hearts. You know, no matter how much you love the Lord you could never throw Him a surprise party...because He peeks! You can never tell Him a joke...He already knows the punch line.
But it is obvious since we are made after His image, that He bestowed upon us a sense of humor to maybe amuse ourselves.
I agree since it is not given to us, then it is not important..just maybe He wrote as well as spoke "He who is without sin cast the first stone"! But it could of also been the very first game of tic tact toe....I always wondered where that game came from.
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 10/30/2008 2:45:26 PM
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d4nnyb0y02
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It is interesting the various views some believers have expressed. It is pure speculation and has led to some serious discussion and some accusations of insincere love towards Jesus or the lack of a serious heart towards the gospel.
I feel it is God who gave us a sense of humor and He may have got a chuckle out of some the answers, but then He already knew what answers were stored in our hearts. You know, no matter how much you love the Lord you could never throw Him a surprise party...because He peeks! You can never tell Him a joke...He already knows the punch line.
But it is obvious since we are made after His image, that He bestowed upon us a sense of humor to maybe amuse ourselves.
I agree since it is not given to us, then it is not important..just maybe He wrote as well as spoke "He who is without sin cast the first stone"! But it could of also been the very first game of tic tact toe....I always wondered where that game came from.
No, I have to disagree. It very well *couldn't* have been the very first game of tic-tac-toe, and you really have no Biblical or historical reason to believe that or speculate so. There is a difference between speculation with Biblical principals in respect to God's character and known history... then there is purely vain lame and imaginative speculation that goes nowhere is and founded purely on the notion to jest. One draws us closer to the Lord as we sincerely consider His Word, and His character (what His Word has told us about His character), and the other is fruitless.
God also made us sexual beings, and we are created in His image... so shouldn't we have a reason to fulfill our sexual desires however and whenever we want, or is there confines within God's Word about how we are to fulfill our sexual desires? The answer is the latter, not the former. God gave us a sense of humor, lets use it rightly. Not everying someone says to be funny, is funny.
Keep wondering where the game came from. It wasn't what Jesus wrote in the dirt.
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 10/30/2008 3:35:31 PM
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But it is obvious since we are made after His image, that He bestowed upon us a sense of humor to maybe amuse ourselves.
I am sure Jesus had a sense of humor, however, in this instance and whenever He was dealing with sin, He was always dead serious. It is, after all, what He went to the cross for and is obviously no laughing matter.
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 10/30/2008 3:44:44 PM
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TorchHeart
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I am sure Jesus had a sense of humor, however, in this instance and whenever He was dealing with sin, He was always dead serious. It is, after all, what He went to the cross for and is obviously no laughing matter.
That doesn't mean he wrote anything meaningful (or even legible) in the dirt.
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 10/30/2008 3:47:09 PM
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I don't believe that He doodled in the dirt, but with that said I also don't believe that He intended for any of us to debate whether what He wrote in the dirt was meaningful or obscure...
We all have our opinions and they are just that--OPINIONS! And as RamiRedeemed would say, "if you believe He doodled in the dirt--YOU believe that, and I will believe what I believe."
(she would say something to that effect anyways)
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 10/30/2008 3:50:00 PM
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TorchHeart
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Believe what you want. If he meant for it to have been significant, it Matthew, Mark, John, or Luke would've included it.
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 10/30/2008 3:52:07 PM
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I'm not saying it was significant, but just that I thought He would have wrote something significant.
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 10/30/2008 3:59:25 PM
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TorchHeart
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I'm not saying it was significant, but just that I thought He would have wrote something significant.
Why would he have? His words that he spoke to the crowd were significant enough.
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 10/30/2008 4:02:01 PM
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I'm not saying it was significant, but just that I thought He would have wrote something significant.
Popsi, I think you can believe that whatever Jesus wrote in the dirt was significant in that it achieved what He wanted it to...the conviction of sin.
" (Jesus said) 'He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her,' and again, He stooped down and wrote on the ground. 9 Then those who heard it, being convicted by their conscience, went out one by one, beginning with the oldest even to the last." -John 8
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 10/30/2008 4:05:12 PM
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TorchHeart
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Popsi, I think you can believe that whatever Jesus wrote in the dirt was significant in that it achieved what He wanted it to...the conviction of sin.
" (Jesus said) 'He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her,' and again, He stooped down and wrote on the ground. 9 Then those who heard it, being convicted by their conscience, went out one by one, beginning with the oldest even to the last." -John 8
Wrong. If what was written was what convinced them, then why does this say that those who HEARD IT were convicted by their consience....
What he wrote had no significance.
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 10/30/2008 4:12:28 PM
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I think He wrote 2 Timoth 2:23 But avoid foolish and ignorant disputes, knowing that they generate strife.
Or was it Titus 3:9? But avoid foolish disputes, genealogies, contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and useless[/b]
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 10/30/2008 4:13:26 PM
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PopsiLufsJesus
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What he wrote had no significance.
Maybe not to us. That is your speculation.
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 10/30/2008 4:18:53 PM
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TorchHeart
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Yes, but its been made clear by some that, for whatever reason, my speculation seems to hold less weight than stuff that is far less backable.
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 10/30/2008 4:21:49 PM
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TorchHeart
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I think He wrote 2 Timoth 2:23 But avoid foolish and ignorant disputes, knowing that they generate strife.
Or was it Titus 3:9? But avoid foolish disputes, genealogies, contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and useless]
Probably the former, since this has nothing to do with "the law."
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 10/30/2008 4:23:04 PM
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Do geneologies have to do with the law?
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 10/30/2008 4:26:15 PM
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TorchHeart
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Do geneologies have to do with the law?
They don't have anything to do with what Christ doodled in the dirt.
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 10/30/2008 4:34:09 PM
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RamiRedeemed
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Do geneologies have to do with the law?
They don't have anything to do with what Christ doodled in the dirt.
That's not what I asked.
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 10/30/2008 4:36:04 PM
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PopsiLufsJesus
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I think He wrote 2 Timoth 2:23 But avoid foolish and ignorant disputes, knowing that they generate strife.
Even if you just take the second verse mentioned out of the 2 scriptures.
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 10/30/2008 4:36:04 PM
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TorchHeart
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That's not what I asked.
Regardless, its what I answered. If you have a point to make, please do so.
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 10/30/2008 4:39:42 PM
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I think He wrote 2 Timoth 2:23 But avoid foolish and ignorant disputes, knowing that they generate strife.
Or was it Titus 3:9? But avoid foolish disputes, genealogies, contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and useles]
I have to agree with you Rami, this is all getting a little out of hand.
I can see the picture from both sides. Those who say it holds importance because that He wrote something was written down. And those that say it is unimportant, because it does not say what was written down.
After that, I don't think we should be questioning each others motives, and or love for our savior just because we can't all agree on speculation theories.
We are the body and should not be bickering over who is right.
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Like this thread, right? Again, you're taking this WAY too seriously. Like I said, its quite probably that Jesus was just doodling in the dirt, not writing anything. Please, for your own sake, give it up.
