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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 11/7/2008 6:18:29 PM
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Kat_D
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Funny how someone making their first post knows everyone and their intentions so well...must be divine intervention!
I dunno, Kat. I think he was spot on about me 
 Oh yeah, especially when he said:
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Good, good stuff.
I can see that you'd think so, and actually, more often times than not, I'd have to agree with him.
TorchHeart: I liked what you said in your last post about Jesus doodling in the dirt...giving those men time to settle down, etc. That was good stuff too!
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 11/7/2008 6:56:57 PM
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They close the self-checkout lanes and make you use one set of doors instead of two. And, they stock shelves and buff the floors. Very exciting. :)
Oh, man. If you knew the half of it.
One night: A woman, a man, a changing room, and an urgent call over the P.A. system followed by a visit by the cops.
That's all I'll say; you do the math. Yes, I wish I was kidding.
That don't only happen at night. I worked at Wally World for a time and believe me, it also happens on the first and second shift too! 
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 11/7/2008 10:21:24 PM
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Torch you had an interesting theory. I think I like yours the best. Maybe thats because thats what I needed to hear tonight, I dunno, but what you suggested made a lot of sense.
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 11/7/2008 10:23:31 PM
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TorchHeart
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Thanks, Rami.
But God gets the credit. He gives me the words; I just type/say them.
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 11/12/2008 10:05:22 AM
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Funny how someone making their first post knows everyone and their intentions so well...must be divine intervention!
Your sarcastic jab about "knowing everyone's intentions" does not contribute to a positive conversation, and is particularly ironic considering this is a post devoted entirely to speculation about Christ's intentions in writing in the sand. Look, I don't know anyone or their intentions. I made a couple educated guesses based on the posts I read, and 1life has confirmed that I did get his point perfectly.
The point I was making was that, yes, I'm dead serious about my faith, but I don't feel that there is ANY issue of faith that requires me to discuss it in hushed, earnest, solemn tones. My faith is a faith of joy, laughter, and relationship. In my opinion, people can use humor to discuss weighty topics and it can be perfectly appropriate. A follow-up point to that would be, even if humor is inappropriate around certain subjects (with which I disagree), Jesus writing in the sand doesn't seem like it would be one of them.
The other point I was making, and which I will reaffirm here, is: lighten up. Have a little humor. Don't take yourselves or your opinions so seriously. And address each other with love and respect. Just because we're posting anonymously doesn't mean we should treat each other with anything less than Christ's love. I started reading this because I was interested in everyone's thoughts about what Christ was writing in the sand, but have found the devolution of this conversation to be very off-putting.
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 11/12/2008 10:09:22 AM
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Great, now I sound as preachy and humorless as everyone else on here. My bad. From now on any future posts will include at least one joke, even if it's not that funny.
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 11/12/2008 1:11:15 PM
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Great, now I sound as preachy and humorless as everyone else on here. My bad. From now on any future posts will include at least one joke, even if it's not that funny.
Promise?
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 11/12/2008 1:21:35 PM
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Many speculate (myself included) the sins of the men who had gathered stones to stone the woman accused of adultery. We don't know with 100% certainty,........... Everywhere I go, every group I have ever become involved in, every person who appreciates discussing the bible that I have joined has posed this same question over & over again & the answer remains the same.....there is no correct answer.
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but I found this interesting.
Jeremiah 17:13 says "Hope of Israel, Adonai! All who abandon you will be ashamed, those who leave you will be inscribed in the dust, because they have abandoned Adonai, the source of living water."
I find that interesting, too because an inscription in the dust lasts only as long as there is no wind.
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 11/12/2008 2:07:41 PM
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Everywhere I go, every group I have ever become involved in, every person who appreciates discussing the bible that I have joined has posed this same question over & over again & the answer remains the same.....there is no correct answer.
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but I found this interesting.
Jeremiah 17:13 says "Hope of Israel, Adonai! All who abandon you will be ashamed, those who leave you will be inscribed in the dust, because they have abandoned Adonai, the source of living water."
I find that interesting, too because an inscription in the dust lasts only as long as there is no wind.
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I find that interesting, too because an inscription in the dust lasts only as long as there is no wind.
Ge 3:19 - Show Context
In the sweat of your face you shall eat bread Till you return to the ground, For out of it you were taken; For dust you are, And to dust you shall return."
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Everywhere I go, every group I have ever become involved in, every person who appreciates discussing the bible that I have joined has posed this same question over & over again & the answer remains the same.....there is no correct answer.
I gave the correct answer …..way back when...
..........The only thing Adam broke in the Garden was the “commandment of God”…. and For out of it you were taken; For dust you are, And to dust you shall return."
It makes more sense to assume that Jesus wrote the 2 commandments in the dust...according the situation they confronted Him with because those were the 2 commandments they were breaking
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Every person who appreciates discussing the bible that I have joined has posed this same question over & over again & the answer remains the same.....there is no correct answer.
Ouch… then one should stay away from those who say there is no answer…because none will be given
Matthew 21:23-27
27 So they answered Jesus and said, "We do not know." And He said to them, "Neither will I tell you
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 11/12/2008 2:25:17 PM
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I gave the correct answer …..way back when...
..........The only thing Adam broke in the Garden was the “commandment of God”…. and For out of it you were taken; For dust you are, And to dust you shall return."
It makes more sense to assume that Jesus wrote the 2 commandments in the dust...according the situation they confronted Him with because those were the 2 commandments they were breaking
Assume would be the key word here. Therefore this isn't a correct answer, but just a logical assumption. We don't know, nor will we ever know, if Jesus wrote anything of importance or if he simply drew some pointless lines in the mud since the Bible gives us no indication.
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 11/12/2008 2:47:34 PM
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LoyalGypsy
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We don't know, nor will we ever know, if Jesus wrote anything of importance or if he simply drew some pointless lines in the mud since the Bible gives us no indication.
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if Jesus wrote anything of importance or if he simply drew some pointless lines in the mud
Then why is in the Bible ?
2Ti 3:16 - Show Context
All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 11/12/2008 2:58:51 PM
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TorchHeart
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Well, we've had a number of possibilities listed out. But the most logical in my book is that it was a detail. Nothing more.
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 11/12/2008 3:27:23 PM
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In the sweat of your face you shall eat bread Till you return to the ground, For out of it you were taken; For dust you are, And to dust you shall return."  and dust you shall be as the wind spreads you about.
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duck....
Everywhere I go, every group I have ever become involved in, every person who appreciates discussing the bible that I have joined has posed this same question over & over again & the answer remains the same.....there is no correct answer.
I gave the correct answer …..way back when... That's one problem with people giving their own answers to a thread.....I was not asked to read everyone else's answers......I answered it as I would, not you.
Anyway, how the heck do you know what Jesus was writing or drawing in the dirt? Where does the bible tell us the design, the letters, the words, or whatever He was drawing?
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..........It makes more sense to assume that Jesus wrote the 2 commandments in the dust...according the situation they confronted Him with because those were the 2 commandments they were breaking
ASSUMING makes no sense whatsoever. Assuming is strictly perceptional & perceptions vary with intellect, as well as cultures. ASSUMING does not give correct answers. If it did, then we would ALL be correct.
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Every person who appreciates discussing the bible that I have joined has posed this same question over & over again & the answer remains the same.....there is no correct answer.
Ouch… then one should stay away from those who say there is no answer…because none will be given Actually, people ask questions that are entirely irrelevant to the point being made and this is one of those. I DON'T NEED TO KNOW WHAT HE WAS SCRIBBLING. I DO NEED TO KNOW that none of us are sinless. THAT was the point.
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27 So they answered Jesus and said, "We do not know." And He said to them, "Neither will I tell you
LG
Don't make scrambled eggs out of the gospel. Although very relevant to the scripture & very valuable in life, this particular quote does not address the question or my point.
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 11/13/2008 12:45:07 PM
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Many speculate (myself included) the sins of the men who had gathered stones to stone the woman accused of adultery. We don't know with 100% certainty,........... Everywhere I go, every group I have ever become involved in, every person who appreciates discussing the bible that I have joined has posed this same question over & over again & the answer remains the same.....there is no correct answer.
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but I found this interesting.
Jeremiah 17:13 says "Hope of Israel, Adonai! All who abandon you will be ashamed, those who leave you will be inscribed in the dust, because they have abandoned Adonai, the source of living water."
I find that interesting, too because an inscription in the dust lasts only as long as there is no wind.
There may not be a *correct* answer, but there are *wrong* answers.
If there was a 6ft. x 6ft. hole in the ground and I asked you what used to be where the hole is now... there may not be an answer that we can give w/ 100% certainty... but we can say what *wasn't* in the hole recently. A 3,600 sq foot house, for example.
Most of the disagreements in this thread have risen from individuals stating things were in the hole, which obviously don't fit.
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 11/13/2008 12:47:22 PM
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Wow I've never seen this forum before. Stumbled on it looking for the reference to Jesus writing in the dirt. I just finished reading this whole thing, which has been alternately entertaining and disheartening.
1love, torchheart, and walker 311 - thanks for making me laugh out loud at work. Good, good stuff.
Dannyboy - thanks for making me really annoyed.
Glad I could be of service. We all have our opinions of what is and is not funny, don't we.
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 11/13/2008 1:07:00 PM
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There may not be a *correct* answer, but there are *wrong* answers.
If there was a 6ft. x 6ft. hole in the ground and I asked you what used to be where the hole is now... there may not be an answer that we can give w/ 100% certainty... but we can say what *wasn't* in the hole recently. A 3,600 sq foot house, for example. I don't mean to be a smart-alecky duck, but wouldn't my answer to this question be correct if I were to say, "dirt"?
When you physically dig something out of a hole, you do know what was in it or you would at least have research to establish, but when the bible is to be taken as the literal word of God and that word does not say what Jesus was scribbling in the dirt, then how can any one of us determine what answers are wrong?
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ORIGINAL: d4nnyb0y02Most of the disagreements in this thread have risen from individuals stating things were in the hole, which obviously don't fit. But if all things are possible, then if you do not know what is, how can you possibly know what is not?
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 11/13/2008 1:25:59 PM
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I don't mean to be a smart-alecky duck, but wouldn't my answer to this question be correct if I were to say, "dirt"?
Actually, dirt is only one option. Could have been a concrete block in the hole before. We don't know.
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But if all things are possible, then if you do not know what is, how can you possibly know what is not?
False pretense, see. *Not* all things are possible. Since Jesus is writting with his own finger, what was written is limited by Jesus character. How then would we know what Jesus would write? We must examine his character.
For instance... if someone said he drew pornographic symbols and wrote profain slanders to the accusers, that doesn't fit. Not *all* things are possible. Just as it is not possible for *all* things to fit into a 36 sq. ft hole. Only something 36 sq. feet or smaller could fit in a 36 sq. foot hole.
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 11/13/2008 2:00:57 PM
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False pretense, see. *Not* all things are possible. Since Jesus is writting with his own finger, what was written is limited by Jesus character. How then would we know what Jesus would write? We must examine his character.
For instance... if someone said he drew pornographic symbols and wrote profain slanders to the accusers, that doesn't fit. Not *all* things are possible. Just as it is not possible for *all* things to fit into a 36 sq. ft hole. Only something 36 sq. feet or smaller could fit in a 36 sq. foot hole.
But all things are possible with God.
He could've written his grocery list for all we know. (I think he had a hankering for eggs and fish that week )
I kid. Being seriously, it most likely wasn't of importance, since the Gospels don't mention what it was. If you want to look at importance, its probably best to look at the act rather than the content (since the Gospels do make mention of it). Even if it was, it is something we'll probably never know, and hence what is the point of getting into an endless, and sometimes unnecessarily heated, discussion on it (though some of this has been incredibly funny)?
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RE: What did Jesus write in the dirt? - 11/13/2008 3:33:05 PM
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Actually, dirt is only one option. Could have been a concrete block in the hole before. We don't know. But with research of the physical presence, we can establish the material.
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False pretense, see. *Not* all things are possible. But with God, all things are possible(Mat.19:26).
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For instance... if someone said he drew pornographic symbols and wrote profain slanders to the accusers, that doesn't fit. Not *all* things are possible. Just as it is not possible for *all* things to fit into a 36 sq. ft hole. Only something 36 sq. feet or smaller could fit in a 36 sq. foot hole.
It is possible. However, it is not probable because of and I quote you, "what was written is limited by Jesus character".
But, If God wanted to put a 36,000 sq. ft. home into a 36 sq.ft. hole, don't tell me He can't. If we wanted to do it, we probably could ourselves. Bio-chemistry & the study of physics has enabled man to do what was once considered the impossible & man can't even touch the surface of God's ability, but God is revealing His knowledge daily to those who believe, those who believe that the scripture in Matthew 19:26 has a purpose, not just a warm, fuzzy feel- good sound to it.
All scripture has a purpose and if it is not in scripture, then it is simply not significant to the lesson.
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Since Jesus is writting with his own finger, what was written is limited by Jesus character. How then would we know what Jesus would write? We must examine his character. I just don't get the importance or even significance of spending so much valuable time contemplating something that was not important enough for God to include in the Book of Life. It's like discussing, "Was Jesus left-handed or right-handed"?
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