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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 11/3/2008 11:10:01 AM
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IMA_CHRISTIAN
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With the clip of obama and hillary speaking a bit ornery to each other ,, i can see that he might put in a dig like that.. i've seen people make gestures like that. its a snide remark covered up.
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 11/3/2008 11:11:04 AM
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That's not something a presidential candidate should do though.
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 11/3/2008 11:16:21 AM
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IMA_CHRISTIAN
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That's not something a presidential candidate should do though.
THERES a lot of things each should not have done.
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 11/3/2008 11:56:45 AM
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That's not something a presidential candidate should do though.
THERES a lot of things each should not have done.
Oh come on, flipping off your opponent is very immature. We are discussing the potential POTUS.
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Even as he walks along the road, the fool lacks sense and shows everyone how stupid he is. ~ Ecc. 10:2-3
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 11/3/2008 11:58:46 AM
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People are so mesmerized by the big "O" that the proof in that video isn't an
issue with his followers.
This nation will be like that guy on the street if he gets elected.
They'll be wondering what in the world just happened. Our life is destroyed
and we gave him the keys to our houses and cars. "If we take care of him,
he will take care of us."
I want to thank you for starting this thread. The more I read, the more likely I believe it is that Obama IS most likely using Conversational Hypnosis and NLP in his speeches. The reason that I can't be absolute is that I have not read the original textbooks on the processes. However, I believe that the likelihood is so great and so dangerous that I probably will check out the basic textbooks on the subject.
At the very least, being able to go through the document to which you linked has given me sharper senses to watch out for the alerts that he is trying to manipulate. This will be useful if he does or does not win this particular election. For, even if he loses, he will try to use his influence to bring about the socialism that is at the root of his heart.
To me, the number of people that take off on tuesday will have great significance. It is a benchmark of his power and will be referred to time and time again as proof of his 'mandate'. It will also create an inseparable link between him (the commander) and those that decide to obey him (the commanded) by giving them a stake in the outcome in a very special way. It will not be as usual, where one votes and waits to see what happens. The vote is extended into an active vigil. I will be checking those places that I can to see the percentage of those that don't show up at work on Tuesday. It will be very interesting.
At any rate, we all owe you a debt of gratitude! 
The recognition is most welcome.
I put it out there for those who want "real" information.
This was also put out there in the Lakeland thread with many
ex-frauds who deliberately practiced it and exposed it for what
it is.
But, the sad thing is, as is evident here, the majority do not care
about the facts, the truth, or acknowledge they are victims of these
tactics.
I was lam-basted in the other threads bringing this up.
So, it's no surprised that the responses are the same on the political
level. Religion or politics, it's all the same.
I'm glad to have been a service to at least one honest person.
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 11/3/2008 12:00:56 PM
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We are discussing the potential POTUS.
You are so right. This is real serious stuff.
It should be understood why voters were vetted in the beginning
of this great nation. Even now, they are trying to amend the
Constitution to allow the "mass mob" to vote so they can rule.
This is NOT a democracy. This is a REPUBLIC.
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Why does He keep quoting Torah? Doesn't He know He's about to abolish it?
http://www.tedpearce.com/Videos/TheForgottenpeople.html
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 11/3/2008 12:29:30 PM
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That's not something a presidential candidate should do though.
THERES a lot of things each should not have done.
Oh come on, flipping off your opponent is very immature. We are discussing the potential POTUS.
Like i said, each did childish things to each other.. I dont need to go into details. I'm sorry your in denial and you see your candidate as doing no wrong.
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 11/3/2008 12:44:15 PM
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I have never said that McCain has done no wrong. He hasn't acted like a juvenile towards another candidate.
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Even as he walks along the road, the fool lacks sense and shows everyone how stupid he is. ~ Ecc. 10:2-3
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 11/3/2008 12:51:09 PM
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I was lam-basted in the other threads bringing this up.
So, it's no surprised that the responses are the same on the political
level. Religion or politics, it's all the same.
I'm glad to have been a service to at least one honest person.
Awww TMeeks, I luv ya!
i just dont agree with ya all the time.. but I luv ya!
your a smart guy.
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 11/3/2008 3:26:28 PM
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The best lesson that could come from this thread is to never dismiss ANY ideas out of hand. Explore everything.
This is so true in all areas of our lives.
Without it, we can only be polarized politically and ignorant scripturally.
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Why does He keep quoting Torah? Doesn't He know He's about to abolish it?
http://www.tedpearce.com/Videos/TheForgottenpeople.html
BARUCH HABA BASHEM YAHUAH
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 11/3/2008 9:59:37 PM
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Of course, I tend to be just a mite bit polarized politically myself! 
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The best lesson that could come from this thread is to never dismiss ANY ideas out of hand. Explore everything.
This is so true in all areas of our lives.
Without it, we can only be polarized politically and ignorant scripturally.
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 11/3/2008 11:31:37 PM
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That's not something a presidential candidate should do though.
THERES a lot of things each should not have done.
Oh come on, flipping off your opponent is very immature. We are discussing the potential POTUS.
Like i said, each did childish things to each other.. I dont need to go into details. I'm sorry your in denial and you see your candidate as doing no wrong.
How about this video?
Obama Flips Off McCain
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Even as he walks along the road, the fool lacks sense and shows everyone how stupid he is. ~ Ecc. 10:2-3
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 11/4/2008 12:09:15 AM
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For anyone who likes psychology or studing human behaviors, this is an interesting read. Warning - it's a bit long but addresses the 'Cult of Personality'.
Understanding Obama: http://www.faithfreedom.org/obama.html
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 11/4/2008 4:41:32 AM
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IMA_CHRISTIAN
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How about this video?
Obama Flips Off McCain
ok is that a real video?? the quality of that seems to be one that could have been faked, as i have seen.
but if that video is real, it does appear he first wiped his mouth with his index finger and then wiped his mouth with his second finger.
if that video is real, it appears that he might be giving the bird, however, since i am no mind reader, I cannot say in a court of law thats what it is.
actually come to think of it, in a court of law, lets say someone accused you of that gesture, how would you be able to prove that it is that, and not just wiping your mouth?
No matter who did it, whether mccain or obama or any other person, I think that gets into judging. You first have to decide if that video is real, and then decide what intention they had, in making that gesture.
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 11/4/2008 6:14:36 AM
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I do not applaud it.
the one you showed me looks fake though..
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 11/4/2008 7:37:42 AM
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How about this video?
Obama Flips Off McCain
ok is that a real video?? the quality of that seems to be one that could have been faked, as i have seen.
but if that video is real, it does appear he first wiped his mouth with his index finger and then wiped his mouth with his second finger.
if that video is real, it appears that he might be giving the bird, however, since i am no mind reader, I cannot say in a court of law thats what it is.
actually come to think of it, in a court of law, lets say someone accused you of that gesture, how would you be able to prove that it is that, and not just wiping your mouth?
No matter who did it, whether mccain or obama or any other person, I think that gets into judging. You first have to decide if that video is real, and then decide what intention they had, in making that gesture.
Yes it's real. There are other videos of the broadcast. If you look it's a video of a television broadcast taken with either a digicam or a cell phone. Look at the fox news crawl at the bottom.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdF8V_-ihL4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeDK4bir0Sc&feature=related
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The heart of the wise inclines to the right but the heart of the fool to the left.
Even as he walks along the road, the fool lacks sense and shows everyone how stupid he is. ~ Ecc. 10:2-3
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 11/4/2008 8:49:01 AM
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wow well if he is doing that. wow..
you ever see those commercials with the computer enhanced things, like the arm coming up or they make a baby talk like an adult, or they make a pet talk and move its mouth like a person? ok im gonna take a look at the others.
well i do belive in body language. it could well be that he is showing his distain for someone and it is actually being revealed in body language, which always tells,, moreso than words.
if thats the case, it reveals a chink in his smiley armor!
((by the way I did not vote obama))
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 11/4/2008 8:52:04 AM
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wow thats freaky... ok i belive it,, its on fox news channel,, they would not make that stuff up.
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 11/4/2008 8:56:57 AM
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It was a deliberate flip off. One time you can excuse it as just a coincidence, but this is at least the second time when he has made the same deliberate gesture when he was discussing his political opponents. It's not becoming of someone who aspires to be the POTUS.
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The heart of the wise inclines to the right but the heart of the fool to the left.
Even as he walks along the road, the fool lacks sense and shows everyone how stupid he is. ~ Ecc. 10:2-3
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 11/4/2008 9:08:49 AM
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The reason it looked 'fake' is that they slowed it down so that it could not be missed.
But, slow or fast, as it was in the original speech, which I saw live, it WAS intentional and it WAS well timed.
Few people understand this; but, "Laugh In" was the single most important TV program for the crude coarsening of televised entertainment. They used a technique that sandwiched an over the edge, lewd or suggestive bit between two innocuous bits. By the time you realized that something lewd had been introduced you were on to something innocuous and just shrugged it off. But, we didn't realize that our sensitivity to lewdness was under attack.
Quick symbolic gestures ARE taken in by the mind even if we are distracted by the fact that the manipulator quickly moves on to something innocuous. That is the case for this well timed and well planned gesture by Obama. So, slowing it down lets us see the deliberateness of it and how PERFECTLY it was aligned to the name of McCain.
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I do not applaud it.
the one you showed me looks fake though..
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