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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/27/2008 10:57:20 PM
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You guys and gals,, please listen to me, the voice of reason!
did it ever occur to you that his personality is that of "charismatic".. thats a real quality that some people have. A lot of preachers use charisma and techniques to persuade you to come to the Lord.
If you watch your own preacher, he will use a lot of techniques to make the gospel more appealing.. along with other special effex in church to make you come to the Lord.
ok did you ever stop to think that perhaps you just find Obama charming, but in a nice way,, that he just has that nice personality and you cant stand that he is just a nice guy, and if thats true, its so hard for you to admit it, but its just plain ol the guy is nice, knows how to give a persuasive speech. yes I can agree that he does know proper sales techniques.. but any salesperson - a legitimate job - who wants to make money and sales has to know techniques. Now these are not morally wrong or unethical.
He does dress nicely, he is tall, dark and handsome and has a beautiful family, and cute kids. He knows how to speak with confidence, actually better than Biden. He is very articulate, intelligent and probably uses nice cologne. All these things - like it or not - make a good impression on you. If he was dressed in blue jeans and was a slob, you would not respect him. This is just good business sense. Your preacher probably wears a suit on Sunday for that same reason.
Please reconsider that its just his very nice country preacher type personality that has charmed you. And i know its hard to admit that you really like the guy! dont worry, its ok to admit it.
One positive thing that i am seeing is on the news when he is amongst people voting for him, there is a racial mix of people. This is nice and refreshing to see. Today it made me realize that he is not trying to be a racist, he wants everyone to come aboard the ship and work together.
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/27/2008 11:35:27 PM
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ORIGINAL: TMeeks
Have I made a single claim? Even ONE about Obama?
You are implying it, which is ridiculous. McCain must be using the same techniques too, as he also has a huge following. He also has been giving speeches longer, so his techniques must be more refined. It is ridiculous to think either candidate is hypnotizing the masses. I give the people more credit than that.
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All I said, was that I was RESEARCHING to see if the paper had any validity. The only ones making claims that they cannot substantiate are those claiming definitively that nether Jim Jones nor Hitler used any form of Hypnosis... when, in fact, we don't know why people followed them as passionately as they did.
A Guyana survivor's account:
Layton's own youthful innocence, foremost, but also the desire to trust another person, the need for belonging and meaning, which led so many perfectly normal Americans to place their faith in a suicidal madman.
No hypnotizism just promising what every person longs for.
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When you say that whoever is elected is "God's Choice" do you mean His APPROVED ONE or simply the choice that marches us off into the end times?
Do you know God's mind? Why do you make you make unsubstaniated claims Obama will lead us to end times? Can you see the future? How do you know McCain's the "Approved One". Whoever God chooses is the "APPROVED ONE". Read Rm 13:1-2, Jn 19:11
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I can tell you this. Obama is NOT the chosen leader for good from God. God would NOT chose a man with as many moral deficiencies and outright anti-God policy positions as his APPROVED choice. He might however, choose him to allow evil to flourish as it is predicted in the end times... or, let Obama win as just His way of teaching us and future generations that when one puts their trust in a man and not the Almighty God, they are led down the path to sorrow and destruction.
Baseless paranoia. That's why God gets my vote.
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/27/2008 11:45:34 PM
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Baseless paranoia. That's why God gets my vote.
Hmmm.... That was an interesting choice of words.
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 12:40:01 AM
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Back to the subject at hand... the Document on Obama & Conversational Hypnotism.
First impressions.
Whoever wrote this document seems to thoroughly understand the clinical uses of hypnotism and the literature on all forms of hypnotism. The writer makes extensive use of footnotes so that the reader can follow up on the basis for the scientific claims and psychological theory. Moreover, the provide numerous links to videos showing the techniques being used in real life situations.
Certainly, Conversational Hypnotism is a real goal of some people. Personally, I find it offensive and immoral. But, apparently there are some that claim to be Christians that are proud of the fact that they can manipulate people in the quest for the "Abundant Life". So much for ethics and morality in the church. 
So, it IS out there and Obama, like anyone else, could have picked up one of the several courses. Depending on when he may have studied the techniques, we should be able to detect a change in his voice patterns and tonality as he put the techniques into play. In this regard, it is interesting to listen to one of the more recently released recordings that was done early in his career. It seems remarkably different than his pacing and tonality now. Interesting.
The basic technique, as described in the document and other places on the web, is to using 'pacing' and 'leaning' to bypass our natural 'truth filters'. Pacing, at one level, can be described as presenting a series of truthful facts. We are impatient people. So, as the list of truthful facts are presented we become more bored with trying to ascertain if the next statement is, indeed, a truthful fact. We let our guard down and the speaker inserts a statement that we would normally reject as true.
There was a poem that I remember from childhood that used this technique to insult people. It went:
Roses are Red (True)
Violets are Blue (True the general context)
You've got a nose like a B-52! (Not true but accepted as true by the brain)
One of the tings I remember about this poem is that those upon which it was thrust appeared to think it true, no matter how small their nose might be. Now, this is a silly example. But, it does reflect the methodology of Conversational hypnotism.
Obama will say things like "We Need Change" and that's true. "We need Hope" and that's also true. But, he follows that with "And that is why" (the link from the pacing to the leaning)... "I will be the next president" (The leaning)
Now, if you ask yourself some logical questions, like "Has he EVER actually delivered ANY Change?" You will find that you cannot actually identify a single instance. So, we go further and ask the logical question, "Has he done anything in the past that gave anyone additional hope?" And, you'll probably come up empty there too.
But, it will not matter if he has, in fact, used Conversational Hypnosis with that sentence. Because he has linked the truths of "We Need Change" and "We need Hope" with his being president and he's inserted it at the unconscious level where logic does not play a role. While you have no LOGICAL basis for believing that he will accomplish change (or even know what that change will be) you have an emotional belief that he will pull off SOMETHING in the way of change and hope.
And, this is just for starters. 
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 9:14:41 AM
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ORIGINAL: IMA_CHRISTIAN
You guys and gals,, please listen to me, the voice of reason!
did it ever occur to you that his personality is that of "charismatic".. thats a real quality that some people have. A lot of preachers use charisma and techniques to persuade you to come to the Lord.
First of all if we pay attention to when he pauses in a piece of rhetoric it is a dead give away because of a pending trap... and in that pause he always returns to the script, he is scripted ."charismatic".. Ww do not know who he is or what he is going to do as McCain keeps pressing
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You guys and gals,, please listen to me, the voice of reason!
....How is ...where is Obama representing the Lord in his world views?
The scripture says Mt 5:9 - Show Context
Blessed are the peacemakers, For they shall be called sons of God
Now there is a problem with that.... because they have to know God in the first place...
Now if Jesus Himself has said in the context of John 8:21-30 in v23
And He said to them, "You are from beneath; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world.
Where is the reason to compare Obama’s world view with Jesus statement in v 23 above; as it applies to a son in (Mat 5:9)???
Here is the reasoning....
It goes like this... the (a) "Son of God" Himself never did; nor will ever promote or suggested “a world view”.. as a means for peace ....to be called a peace maker… as of the type spoken of in Matt 5:9 above!
Plain and Simple 
The voice of truth speaks a little louder than reason
Mt 10:34 - Show Context
"Do not think that I came to bring peace "on earth ". I did not come to bring peace but a sword. =division
The reasoning you believe we may not have... is a bit contradicted. 
LG
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...So the Persians ask that the 300 drop their arms. Leonidas responds; "Persians! Come and get them!"
300 The Movie
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 10:52:50 AM
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It is ridiculous to think either candidate is hypnotizing the masses. I give the people more credit than that.
Amen to that statement!
I would have agreed, too, if you were talking about my grandparents' generation. But things, and people, have changed. And, if I may beat that drum again, the Bible does tell us that, in the very last days, widespread deception will be the rule of the day. So I don't give the general population much credit.
Now as to hypnotization...I don't know. Call it what you want. I call it lack of discretion due to a lack of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 11:54:59 AM
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Hypnotist
Hypnosis
Now as to hypnotization...I don't know. Call it what you want. I call it lack of discretion due to a lack of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.
It goes like this,
I just listened to Obama on CNN he makes remarks between values and between ideologies and then goes to the script concerning the economy
Ideologies by definition is
a set of beliefs, values, and opinions that shapes the way a person or a group such as a social class thinks, acts, and understands the world
…..a closely organized system of beliefs, values, and ideas “forming the basis”… of a social, economic, or political philosophy or program as a social class thinks, acts, and understands the world
He wants to change that basis by submitting to the worlds standards!
So his intentions are clouded under cover that Bush is the problem..... When in fact the US constitution is the only hindrance; or that organized system of beliefs, values, and ideas therefore “forming the basis”…against or in opposite of the new world order,
which is why he fighting for the judges to be let loose for the purpose to give them more power to legislate law from the bench so as to propagate the propaganda which is directly opposed to the Ideologies which “set by the founders” ....for that very reason.
A tactic most likely learned for Bill Ayers who is anti American Ideologies...(they are all the same) they just haven’t found their way into the upper office ...until the people are silenced.
SO his words are clouded…. because Americans…. have been kept stupid in the educational institutions… beginning since the 60-s and now that the season is ripe… and because they from then until now can still vote … Are not informed to know the differences.
Get it!
Look at it this way…
It’s the same tactic questionable pastor’s and some visitors to the threads use by stating the OT is irrelevant,
Because that is said….when Jesus spoke of the OT in principal by His examples in the NT…. it is left open for false interpretation...because one is NOT being taught the basics in principal
Get it!
......All those thing put together = Hypnosis
a condition that can “be artificially induced” in (stupid) people, in which they can respond to questions and are very susceptible to suggestions…
You can’t hypnotize an informed individual...
Joh 7:17 - Show Context
If anyone wants to do His will, he shall know concerning the doctrine, whether it is from God or whether I speak on My own authority.
LG
< Message edited by LoyalGypsy -- 10/28/2008 12:02:20 PM >
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...So the Persians ask that the 300 drop their arms. Leonidas responds; "Persians! Come and get them!"
300 The Movie
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 12:05:30 PM
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Good grief!!! You've convinced me! Someone who is so charming, charismatic, gives a persuasive speech, dresses nice, articulate, intelligent, tall, dark, handsome, and probably smells nice absolutely HAS to be the Obamessiah ....................... or, could he possibly be the antichrist, the beast, or the false prophet?
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ORIGINAL: IMA_CHRISTIAN
You guys and gals,, please listen to me, the voice of reason!
did it ever occur to you that his personality is that of "charismatic".. thats a real quality that some people have. A lot of preachers use charisma and techniques to persuade you to come to the Lord.
If you watch your own preacher, he will use a lot of techniques to make the gospel more appealing.. along with other special effex in church to make you come to the Lord.
ok did you ever stop to think that perhaps you just find Obama charming, but in a nice way,, that he just has that nice personality and you cant stand that he is just a nice guy, and if thats true, its so hard for you to admit it, but its just plain ol the guy is nice, knows how to give a persuasive speech. yes I can agree that he does know proper sales techniques.. but any salesperson - a legitimate job - who wants to make money and sales has to know techniques. Now these are not morally wrong or unethical.
He does dress nicely, he is tall, dark and handsome and has a beautiful family, and cute kids. He knows how to speak with confidence, actually better than Biden. He is very articulate, intelligent and probably uses nice cologne. All these things - like it or not - make a good impression on you. If he was dressed in blue jeans and was a slob, you would not respect him. This is just good business sense. Your preacher probably wears a suit on Sunday for that same reason.
Please reconsider that its just his very nice country preacher type personality that has charmed you. And i know its hard to admit that you really like the guy! dont worry, its ok to admit it.
One positive thing that i am seeing is on the news when he is amongst people voting for him, there is a racial mix of people. This is nice and refreshing to see. Today it made me realize that he is not trying to be a racist, he wants everyone to come aboard the ship and work together.
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The Prayer of Protection
The light of God surrounds me,
The love of God enfolds me,
The power of God protects me,
The presence of God watches over me.
Wherever I am, God is.
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 12:09:31 PM
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In all honesty, it appears both major parties are headed in the same direction...it's just that the Dems want to get there quicker!
Several cycles past, I came to the same conclusion.
Both major parties are headed in the same direction. ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT!
The choice we have is not destination, but the ride we take getting there.
I prefer to be a "free nation" living a "life of freedom."
I prefer not to be oppressed by a socialist government deciding what job I do,
how much money I make, etc. etc.
Do we want to arrive with freedoms, or bondages.
We are to pray for the leaders "so that we may live quiet and peaceable lives."
Class warfare is not quiet and peaceable lives.
The only peace is under the Prince of Peace.
Even though we are headed for the one world government,
we can get there through the principles of the Bible that results in peaceable lives.
Daddy Bush said it plainly, "One World Government."
That's when I realized both parties are taking us down the same tracks.
We can, though, decide which train we want to ride on.
As far as the "hypnotism," the outlook is on how you define it.
As one post mentioned, we think the entertainment style.
Satan used it from the beginning.
"Has God not said?"
Once the seed of doubt is in place,
we are primed for compromise.
James tells us the steps to destruction.
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Why does He keep quoting Torah? Doesn't He know He's about to abolish it?
http://www.tedpearce.com/Videos/TheForgottenpeople.html
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 12:15:07 PM
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ORIGINAL: davemiller7
Good grief!!! You've convinced me! Someone who is so charming, charismatic, gives a persuasive speech, dresses nice, articulate, intelligent, tall, dark, handsome, and probably smells nice absolutely HAS to be the Obamessiah ....................... or, could he possibly be the antichrist, the beast, or the false prophet?
No, no, no, Dave! You don't get it! If it (he) looks good, feels good, tastes good, smells good ( ), sounds good...well, it (he) must be wonderful!
In the words of that nauseating song from the 70's..."How can it be wrong when it feels so right?"
See, Dave? We're sensory beings...free from logical thought processes!
Looooook deeeeeep into my eyes.....
Saaaaaay it with meeeeee...."Change...we....can....believe....in...."
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 12:16:36 PM
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ORIGINAL: Lapidoth
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In all honesty, it appears both major parties are headed in the same direction...it's just that the Dems want to get there quicker!
Several cycles past, I came to the same conclusion.
Both major parties are headed in the same direction. ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT!
The choice we have is not destination, but the ride we take getting there.
I prefer to be a "free nation" living a "life of freedom."
I prefer not to be oppressed by a socialist government deciding what job I do,
how much money I make, etc. etc.
Do we want to arrive with freedoms, or bondages.
We are to pray for the leaders "so that we may live quiet and peaceable lives."
Class warfare is not quiet and peaceable lives.
The only peace is under the Prince of Peace.
Even though we are headed for the one world government,
we can get there through the principles of the Bible that results in peaceable lives.
Daddy Bush said it plainly, "One World Government."
That's when I realized both parties are taking us down the same tracks.
We can, though, decide which train we want to ride on.
As far as the "hypnotism," the outlook is on how you define it.
As one post mentioned, we think the entertainment style.
Satan used it from the beginning.
"Has God not said?"
Once the seed of doubt is in place,
we are primed for compromise.
James tells us the steps to destruction.
Yep! And who has proclaimed himself a "global citizen"???
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 12:19:10 PM
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Lapidoth
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I've stood before a group or two and guaranteed that I could
deceive them within five minutes.
I used the "if it were possible (which means it is) that even
the elect will be deceived."
As LG points out, there are those informed that can't be.
In both groups, I was 100% successful in deceiving them.
Here's the point in these kinds of threads as well as in church
lines. No one cares or wants to know. I made this claim in
another thread several months ago. Out of all the hits, only
one e-mailed me to enquire to how the technique worked.
And yes, they were deceived, fooled, hypnotized, what ever
label you want to call it.
That's why phrases like:"Be not deceived" are throughout the
New Testament. If you are born into a state of deception, it's
even harder to recognize that we are deceived.
The most scary statement I have ever heard was:
"The deceived do not know they are deceived."
We really have to question ourselves and rely upon the Holy Spirit
to lead us into all truth. That doesn't mean we have it, it means we
are lead to the truth.
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Why does He keep quoting Torah? Doesn't He know He's about to abolish it?
http://www.tedpearce.com/Videos/TheForgottenpeople.html
BARUCH HABA BASHEM YAHUAH
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 12:19:28 PM
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ORIGINAL: davemiller7
Good grief!!! You've convinced me! Someone who is so charming, charismatic, gives a persuasive speech, dresses nice, articulate, intelligent, tall, dark, handsome, and probably smells nice absolutely HAS to be the Obamessiah ....................... or, could he possibly be the antichrist, the beast, or the false prophet?
The Pied Piper perhaps…
the thing about the AC is he will not be as transparent as the big O…the big O type in prophecy is overcome by the AC= 4 who opposes and exalts himself “above all”…. that is called God …or… “that is worshiped,
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...So the Persians ask that the 300 drop their arms. Leonidas responds; "Persians! Come and get them!"
300 The Movie
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 12:22:00 PM
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Looooook deeeeeep into my eyes.....
Saaaaaay it with meeeeee...."Change...we....can....believe....in...."
I was watching some pundits a couple nights ago.
One asked the other, Name one thing that you admire or respect in Obama.
eyes in the headlights..................lol.
After trying to think of something, the response is the charisma and the
eloquence that Obama "possesses" to say absolutely nothing and give long
speeches doing it.
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Why does He keep quoting Torah? Doesn't He know He's about to abolish it?
http://www.tedpearce.com/Videos/TheForgottenpeople.html
BARUCH HABA BASHEM YAHUAH
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 12:25:31 PM
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Lapidoth
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"Change...we....can....believe....in...."
Obama defines this change in a audio that has come to light.
The great disaster of the civil rights movement is that the
court system was not expected to make monetary changes.
It was used only in legislating other agendas.
That definition? Quote: redistributive changes. Unquote:
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http://www.tedpearce.com/Videos/TheForgottenpeople.html
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 12:31:33 PM
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ORIGINAL: Lapidoth
I've stood before a group or two and guaranteed that I could
deceive them within five minutes.
I used the "if it were possible (which means it is) that even
the elect will be deceived."
As LG points out, there are those informed that can't be.
In both groups, I was 100% successful in deceiving them.
Here's the point in these kinds of threads as well as in church
lines. No one cares or wants to know. I made this claim in
another thread several months ago. Out of all the hits, only
one e-mailed me to enquire to how the technique worked.
And yes, they were deceived, fooled, hypnotized, what ever
label you want to call it.
That's why phrases like:"Be not deceived" are throughout the
New Testament. If you are born into a state of deception, it's
even harder to recognize that we are deceived.
The most scary statement I have ever heard was:
"The deceived do not know they are deceived."
We really have to question ourselves and rely upon the Holy Spirit
to lead us into all truth. That doesn't mean we have it, it means we
are lead to the truth.
Greetings
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As LG points out, there are those informed that can't be.
In both groups, I was 100% successful in deceiving them.
But did you try it with one.. "not elected to be".. but one who is already informed?
Not all have that gift.. the Discernment of Spirits....but it is one of those few that is open for the asking
LG
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Ex 19:5 Now therefore, if you will indeed obey My voice
...So the Persians ask that the 300 drop their arms. Leonidas responds; "Persians! Come and get them!"
300 The Movie
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 12:36:57 PM
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Lapidoth
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But did you try it with one.. "not elected to be".. but one who is already informed?
Not all have that gift.. the Discernment of Spirits....but it is one of those few that is open for the asking
LG
The technique I used works on everyone.
It's secular testing, so it's not just about religion.
But, technique is techinque.
Obama or bam-bam from lakeland. Same thing. LOL.
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Why does He keep quoting Torah? Doesn't He know He's about to abolish it?
http://www.tedpearce.com/Videos/TheForgottenpeople.html
BARUCH HABA BASHEM YAHUAH
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 12:39:08 PM
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Lapidoth
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Classic example:
I bought a health-cookbook a while back.
When I opened it up and began reading the
introduction it started out with:
"Billions of years ago......."
I asked the wife, what in the world does evolution
have to do with a cookbook. But, there it was,
brainwashing in every aspect of life.
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Why does He keep quoting Torah? Doesn't He know He's about to abolish it?
http://www.tedpearce.com/Videos/TheForgottenpeople.html
BARUCH HABA BASHEM YAHUAH
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 12:43:17 PM
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I........................am............................persuaded...................master.
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ORIGINAL: Peter_Gunn
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ORIGINAL: davemiller7
Good grief!!! You've convinced me! Someone who is so charming, charismatic, gives a persuasive speech, dresses nice, articulate, intelligent, tall, dark, handsome, and probably smells nice absolutely HAS to be the Obamessiah ....................... or, could he possibly be the antichrist, the beast, or the false prophet?
No, no, no, Dave! You don't get it! If it (he) looks good, feels good, tastes good, smells good ( ), sounds good...well, it (he) must be wonderful!
In the words of that nauseating song from the 70's..."How can it be wrong when it feels so right?"
See, Dave? We're sensory beings...free from logical thought processes!
Looooook deeeeeep into my eyes.....
Saaaaaay it with meeeeee...."Change...we....can....believe....in...."
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-Dave
The Prayer of Protection
The light of God surrounds me,
The love of God enfolds me,
The power of God protects me,
The presence of God watches over me.
Wherever I am, God is.
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 12:45:33 PM
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davemiller7
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Ok. False Prophet then. Goodness knows he has spewed out a lot of false prophesies. 
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Good grief!!! You've convinced me! Someone who is so charming, charismatic, gives a persuasive speech, dresses nice, articulate, intelligent, tall, dark, handsome, and probably smells nice absolutely HAS to be the Obamessiah ....................... or, could he possibly be the antichrist, the beast, or the false prophet?
The Pied Piper perhaps…
the thing about the AC is he will not be as transparent as the big O…the big O type in prophecy is overcome by the AC= 4 who opposes and exalts himself “above all”…. that is called God …or… “that is worshiped,
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The Prayer of Protection
The light of God surrounds me,
The love of God enfolds me,
The power of God protects me,
The presence of God watches over me.
Wherever I am, God is.
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 12:46:39 PM
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IMA_CHRISTIAN
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Good grief!!! You've convinced me! Someone who is so charming, charismatic, gives a persuasive speech, dresses nice, articulate, intelligent, tall, dark, handsome, and probably smells nice absolutely HAS to be the Obamessiah ....................... or, could he possibly be the antichrist, the beast, or the false prophet?
Now you know I dont like that talk about referring to him as the messiah.. but he does present himself well, dontcha think? thats the way you go into a business interview, to GET THE JOB!
put two and two together :)
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 12:47:00 PM
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I........................am............................persuaded...................master.
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ORIGINAL: davemiller7
Good grief!!! You've convinced me! Someone who is so charming, charismatic, gives a persuasive speech, dresses nice, articulate, intelligent, tall, dark, handsome, and probably smells nice absolutely HAS to be the Obamessiah ....................... or, could he possibly be the antichrist, the beast, or the false prophet?
No, no, no, Dave! You don't get it! If it (he) looks good, feels good, tastes good, smells good ( ), sounds good...well, it (he) must be wonderful!
In the words of that nauseating song from the 70's..."How can it be wrong when it feels so right?"
See, Dave? We're sensory beings...free from logical thought processes!
Looooook deeeeeep into my eyes.....
Saaaaaay it with meeeeee...."Change...we....can....believe....in...."
I'll vote once, twice, thrice, . . . . . . 73 times. Yes maaaaaaaasteeeeer. LOL
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Why does He keep quoting Torah? Doesn't He know He's about to abolish it?
http://www.tedpearce.com/Videos/TheForgottenpeople.html
BARUCH HABA BASHEM YAHUAH
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 12:48:37 PM
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