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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 12:49:39 PM   
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quote:

I dont like that talk about referring to him as the messiah..


Go back and see who and what began calling O the "messiah who has the hearts of the youth."

Very telling.

As one pundit said: I have to ask myself, what is it that Ayres, Farakahn, and the like see in Obama.
the associations don't bother me, but what they see in him does.

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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 12:51:33 PM   
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I was more on the line with the idiot lights on the dashboard of a car... that when you door is open and big light flashes and it says your door is ajar

No it is not.. its a Door ...and always will be a door!!



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Awwww! lol.

But, we have change we can believe in.

the "door" really is a "jar." LOL.

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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 12:53:28 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lapidoth

quote:

I was more on the line with the idiot lights on the dashboard of a car... that when you door is open and big light flashes and it says your door is ajar

No it is not.. its a Door ...and always will be door!!



LG

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Awwww! lol.

But, we have change we can believe in.

the "door" really is a "jar." LOL.



And if we will submit to that will... we can have a tax hand out!

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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 12:54:53 PM   
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thats the way you go into a business interview, to GET THE JOB!


Books and tapes on how to deceive the employers. lol.

I got a job by being persistent only once.
I showed up asking for a job in my bare feet.
After a month, the employer knew I really wanted a job
and gave me a shot.

Now, I've interviewed many who "look the part" but have to
let them go later on. lol.

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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 12:57:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LoyalGypsy

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lapidoth

quote:

I was more on the line with the idiot lights on the dashboard of a car... that when you door is open and big light flashes and it says your door is ajar

No it is not.. its a Door ...and always will be door!!



LG

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Awwww! lol.

But, we have change we can believe in.

the "door" really is a "jar." LOL.



And if we will submit to that will... we can have a tax hand out!


Yep. lol.

Obama tax cut = taking money from one citizen and giving a very small
portion of it to the other citizens. {redistribution} Government cronies keep
the rest for administrative costs of the redistribution.

McCain tax cut = government taking less money from all the citizens.

Yep. Same words. But, I see the door as a door and not a jar.

But.................I could be wrong. lol.

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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 1:56:10 PM   
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They told me to be alert, but I didn't know what a "lert" was, what it looked like or anything...........

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ORIGINAL: LoyalGypsy

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lapidoth

Classic example:

I bought a health-cookbook a while back.
When I opened it up and began reading the
introduction it started out with:

"Billions of years ago......."

I asked the wife, what in the world does evolution
have to do with a cookbook. But, there it was,
brainwashing in every aspect of life.



I was more on the line with the idiot lights on the dashboard of a car... that when you door is open and big light flashes and it says your door is ajar

No it is not.. its a Door ...and always will be A door!!



LG


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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 2:18:36 PM   
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quote:

"... a light will shine through that window, a beam of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany ... and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote for Obama"
Barack Obama Lebanon, New Hampshire.
January 7, 2008.


Yes, he DOES present himself well! Very well!







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ORIGINAL: davemiller7

Good grief!!! You've convinced me! Someone who is so charming, charismatic, gives a persuasive speech, dresses nice, articulate, intelligent, tall, dark, handsome, and probably smells nice absolutely HAS to be the Obamessiah ....................... or, could he possibly be the antichrist, the beast, or the false prophet?



Now you know I dont like that talk about referring to him as the messiah.. but he does present himself well, dontcha think? thats the way you go into a business interview, to GET THE JOB!

put two and two together :)


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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 2:20:27 PM   
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They told me to be alert, but I didn't know what a "lert" was, what it looked like or anything...........



I can express an opinion but it may be against TOS … but even my dictionary came up with 1-5 of 25700 possible references… how is that for hypnosis?

Will the real Obama please get to the point!



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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 2:34:06 PM   
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Excellent post.

For those that may believe that Obama is NOT looked upon as a Messiah, look here.

And, NOTHING can prepare you for what this web site has uncovered. Every Chriostian should look at each and every one of the items on this site. If a person claims to be a Christian and doesn't come away deeply concerned, then there is little hope that they will ever be able to discern the truth of God from the lies of Satan.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lapidoth

quote:

I dont like that talk about referring to him as the messiah..


Go back and see who and what began calling O the "messiah who has the hearts of the youth."

Very telling.

As one pundit said: I have to ask myself, what is it that Ayres, Farakahn, and the like see in Obama.
the associations don't bother me, but what they see in him does.


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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 2:50:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TMeeks

For those that may believe that Obama is NOT looked upon as a Messiah, look here.

And, NOTHING can prepare you for what this web site has uncovered. Every Chriostian should look at each and every one of the items on this site. If a person claims to be a Christian and doesn't come away deeply concerned, then there is little hope that they will ever be able to discern the truth of God from the lies of Satan.



I totally agree with you, TMeeks. But there are so many around here that consider themselves Christians and consider Obama a Christian, too, just because he says he is. They're deceived and hopeless, as you pointed out. But that's what a deceiver specializes in. And you'll NEVER convince them otherwise. Only the Holy Spirit has that ability. They will have an answer to explain away the websites you've linked and will never take them seriously.

We can only pray that the true Church will withstand and grow stronger in the face of this apostasy.
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 4:47:13 PM   
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What an incredible heap of heretical garbage in those links! And people actually believe this stuff................. I think I'm gonna get sick.

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ORIGINAL: TMeeks

Excellent post.

For those that may believe that Obama is NOT looked upon as a Messiah, look here.

And, NOTHING can prepare you for what this web site has uncovered. Every Chriostian should look at each and every one of the items on this site. If a person claims to be a Christian and doesn't come away deeply concerned, then there is little hope that they will ever be able to discern the truth of God from the lies of Satan.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lapidoth

quote:

I dont like that talk about referring to him as the messiah..


Go back and see who and what began calling O the "messiah who has the hearts of the youth."

Very telling.

As one pundit said: I have to ask myself, what is it that Ayres, Farakahn, and the like see in Obama.
the associations don't bother me, but what they see in him does.



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The Prayer of Protection
The light of God surrounds me,
The love of God enfolds me,
The power of God protects me,
The presence of God watches over me.
Wherever I am, God is.
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 4:50:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: davemiller7

What an incredible heap of heretical garbage in those links! And people actually believe this stuff................. I think I'm gonna get sick.


You and me both. lol
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 5:05:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TMeeks

Excellent post.

For those that may believe that Obama is NOT looked upon as a Messiah, look here.

And, NOTHING can prepare you for what this web site has uncovered. Every Chriostian should look at each and every one of the items on this site. If a person claims to be a Christian and doesn't come away deeply concerned, then there is little hope that they will ever be able to discern the truth of God from the lies of Satan.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lapidoth

quote:

I dont like that talk about referring to him as the messiah..


Go back and see who and what began calling O the "messiah who has the hearts of the youth."

Very telling.

As one pundit said: I have to ask myself, what is it that Ayres, Farakahn, and the like see in Obama.
the associations don't bother me, but what they see in him does.



TMEEKS - THOSE people who have gone overboard and made obama that name, they are NUTS!!! and possibly dangerous, i haven't been able to look at it yet, i just peeped .. i will after work. I do blame those ministers who tend to rile people up. hey iv'e been there to a church like that just to see for myself. actually the church i went to was Rev Senator Meeks who is some biggie in operation push ... yikes... !!!! Farakah is a hate monger who claims he is not.
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 6:01:27 PM   
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Agreed. But, from where is the heresy coming? The whole point of the links was to show that Obama's followers seem quite willing to produce heresy in praise of thier great one.

quote:

ORIGINAL: davemiller7

What an incredible heap of heretical garbage in those links! And people actually believe this stuff................. I think I'm gonna get sick.

quote:

ORIGINAL: TMeeks

Excellent post.

For those that may believe that Obama is NOT looked upon as a Messiah, look here.

And, NOTHING can prepare you for what this web site has uncovered. Every Chriostian should look at each and every one of the items on this site. If a person claims to be a Christian and doesn't come away deeply concerned, then there is little hope that they will ever be able to discern the truth of God from the lies of Satan.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lapidoth

quote:

I dont like that talk about referring to him as the messiah..


Go back and see who and what began calling O the "messiah who has the hearts of the youth."

Very telling.

As one pundit said: I have to ask myself, what is it that Ayres, Farakahn, and the like see in Obama.
the associations don't bother me, but what they see in him does.




_____________________________

Galatians 6:7 Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. 8 The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 6:07:10 PM   
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What if Obama, himself, is leading that vision? That is the question posed by this very thread. And, it should be taken seriously enough to explore it. Toss it out if you find it wanting after you;ve given it serious consideration. But, it would be a real shame to dismiss out of hand something that just might be true and might help you warn others of possible danger.

All I'm doing is erading the document, following the footnotes and doing my 'due diligence' to see if, in fact, there is any merit at all the to premise. I'm one-third through and so far, I'm impressed by the case it's making. But, I DO wish I knew who wrote it.

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ORIGINAL: IMA_CHRISTIAN

quote:

ORIGINAL: TMeeks

Excellent post.

For those that may believe that Obama is NOT looked upon as a Messiah, look here.

And, NOTHING can prepare you for what this web site has uncovered. Every Chriostian should look at each and every one of the items on this site. If a person claims to be a Christian and doesn't come away deeply concerned, then there is little hope that they will ever be able to discern the truth of God from the lies of Satan.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lapidoth

quote:

I dont like that talk about referring to him as the messiah..


Go back and see who and what began calling O the "messiah who has the hearts of the youth."

Very telling.

As one pundit said: I have to ask myself, what is it that Ayres, Farakahn, and the like see in Obama.
the associations don't bother me, but what they see in him does.



TMEEKS - THOSE people who have gone overboard and made obama that name, they are NUTS!!! and possibly dangerous, i haven't been able to look at it yet, i just peeped .. i will after work. I do blame those ministers who tend to rile people up. hey iv'e been there to a church like that just to see for myself. actually the church i went to was Rev Senator Meeks who is some biggie in operation push ... yikes... !!!! Farakah is a hate monger who claims he is not.


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Galatians 6:7 Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. 8 The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 6:12:06 PM   
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This thread really needs to be moved to the conspiracy folder or maybe end times folder? The paranoia from the right is so thick I need a lumberjack's chainsaw to cut through it!

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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 6:24:25 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: davemiller7

What an incredible heap of heretical garbage in those links! And people actually believe this stuff................. I think I'm gonna get sick.

quote:

ORIGINAL: TMeeks

Excellent post.

For those that may believe that Obama is NOT looked upon as a Messiah, look here.

And, NOTHING can prepare you for what this web site has uncovered. Every Chriostian should look at each and every one of the items on this site. If a person claims to be a Christian and doesn't come away deeply concerned, then there is little hope that they will ever be able to discern the truth of God from the lies of Satan.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lapidoth

quote:

I dont like that talk about referring to him as the messiah..


Go back and see who and what began calling O the "messiah who has the hearts of the youth."

Very telling.

As one pundit said: I have to ask myself, what is it that Ayres, Farakahn, and the like see in Obama.
the associations don't bother me, but what they see in him does.






Greetings,

Here is the belief in real time ..if you have the stomach for it...


Losing the Genius Vote
Abe Greenwald - 10.26.2008 - 4:20 PM
In today’s New York Times, Timothy Egan declares the GOP the party of yesterday because it has lost all support among America’s brilliant metropolitan set:

Two years ago, a list of the nation’s brainiest cities was put together from Census Bureau reports - that is, cities with the highest percentage of college graduates, which is not the same as smart, of course.


Check out the video
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/greenwald/40061




LG

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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 6:39:08 PM   
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What if Obama, himself, is leading that vision? That is the question posed by this very thread. And, it should be taken seriously enough to explore it. Toss it out if you find it wanting after you;ve given it serious consideration. But, it would be a real shame to dismiss out of hand something that just might be true and might help you warn others of possible danger.

All I'm doing is erading the document, following the footnotes and doing my 'due diligence' to see if, in fact, there is any merit at all the to premise. I'm one-third through and so far, I'm impressed by the case it's making. But, I DO wish I knew who wrote it.



WHAT IF? You say "what if?" well now, you being an intelligent person ought to know we can imaging "what if" till the cows come home. lets not use "what ifs" here... when the thing actually happens, then we can discuss the what if and what do we do now.

now, you also ought to know that just because some crazy people CHOOSE TO act nutty, does that mean you forgot about that word PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY... like for example, just coz i act crazy and make crazy posters about you Meeks, does that mean you are responsible for MY choices???? i mean come on now TMeeks!

lets take that to the extreme, lets say i made a dozen crazzzzeeee posters, the most crazy you ever saw.. and i decide to commit a crime myself. The law is gonna come after ME, not you,,, because I AM the one to blame, not you.

remmeber TMeekks - PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. I dont care how many crazzee folks is out there, they are responsible.

or, can you point me to something that proves that Obama (or anyone) has ordered his workers to make such posters? Show me and i might start to believe you.. seems like everyone has its own share of crazzzeee campaign workers.. and you may have seen my comments on it. it does not reflect the candidate.. even Joe mccains brother who people are equating with John mccain, i have put the responsibility on John Mccain's brother, Joe for his actions with that 911 call.

lets be fair now t meeks! im starting to like ya! ((it was that historical stuff that you provided :)
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 7:23:57 PM   
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Agreed. It reminds me of the way many followed Adolph Hitler. He promised and people rallied around him. His loyal cadre of followers made him into the savior of Germany. Only after it was too late, did the German peole see the error of their ways.

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Agreed. But, from where is the heresy coming? The whole point of the links was to show that Obama's followers seem quite willing to produce heresy in praise of thier great one.



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The light of God surrounds me,
The love of God enfolds me,
The power of God protects me,
The presence of God watches over me.
Wherever I am, God is.
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 7:26:56 PM   
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Sorry if I've offended you, but I didn't invent the term "Obamessiah." He hasn't made any attempt to try to dispel that image either.

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quote:

ORIGINAL: davemiller7

Good grief!!! You've convinced me! Someone who is so charming, charismatic, gives a persuasive speech, dresses nice, articulate, intelligent, tall, dark, handsome, and probably smells nice absolutely HAS to be the Obamessiah ....................... or, could he possibly be the antichrist, the beast, or the false prophet?



Now you know I dont like that talk about referring to him as the messiah.. but he does present himself well, dontcha think? thats the way you go into a business interview, to GET THE JOB!

put two and two together :)


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The light of God surrounds me,
The love of God enfolds me,
The power of God protects me,
The presence of God watches over me.
Wherever I am, God is.
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 7:36:24 PM   
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That shows the difference between "book learnin'" and common sense. Education does not necessarily make people smart. There are many "egg heads" that think socialism / communism is wonderful. Just look at the makeup of the faculty of most any university - mostly liberal / socialist / communist. That's what Nikita Kruschev meant when he said he would bury us from within.

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ORIGINAL: LoyalGypsy

quote:

ORIGINAL: davemiller7

What an incredible heap of heretical garbage in those links! And people actually believe this stuff................. I think I'm gonna get sick.

quote:

ORIGINAL: TMeeks

Excellent post.

For those that may believe that Obama is NOT looked upon as a Messiah, look here.

And, NOTHING can prepare you for what this web site has uncovered. Every Chriostian should look at each and every one of the items on this site. If a person claims to be a Christian and doesn't come away deeply concerned, then there is little hope that they will ever be able to discern the truth of God from the lies of Satan.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lapidoth

quote:

I dont like that talk about referring to him as the messiah..


Go back and see who and what began calling O the "messiah who has the hearts of the youth."

Very telling.

As one pundit said: I have to ask myself, what is it that Ayres, Farakahn, and the like see in Obama.
the associations don't bother me, but what they see in him does.






Greetings,

Here is the belief in real time ..if you have the stomach for it...


Losing the Genius Vote
Abe Greenwald - 10.26.2008 - 4:20 PM
In today’s New York Times, Timothy Egan declares the GOP the party of yesterday because it has lost all support among America’s brilliant metropolitan set:

Two years ago, a list of the nation’s brainiest cities was put together from Census Bureau reports - that is, cities with the highest percentage of college graduates, which is not the same as smart, of course.


Check out the video
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/greenwald/40061




LG


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The Prayer of Protection
The light of God surrounds me,
The love of God enfolds me,
The power of God protects me,
The presence of God watches over me.
Wherever I am, God is.
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 9:35:46 PM   
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Sorry if I've offended you, but I didn't invent the term "Obamessiah." He hasn't made any attempt to try to dispel that image either.

[


hmmm well actually since I hear you and others using that term, i suppose it leaves me no other choice but to guess that you all AGREE WITH IT.

You all sure love to use those words! How sweet! Actually Im changing my mind about them - keep on using those sweet words and sweet names for Obama - and perhaps it will bloom some flowers in your heart for him!

(((of course, I would never use such words as that on a mere man - I reserve them for Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ,, the King of kings, and LORD of Lords! ))))

alas, no one wishes to hear my plea,, they keep want to call Obama the messiah.
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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 9:42:57 PM   
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WHAT IF? You say "what if?" well now, you being an intelligent person ought to know we can imaging "what if" till the cows come home. lets not use "what ifs" here... when the thing actually happens, then we can discuss the what if and what do we do now.


I'm glad that you think I'm intelligent... Because, my business is "What if?" and you are safer for it.

"What If" protects the world. If we ignore exploring the "What Ifs", as you have suggested, then we would not be ready for any attack on our country. We wouldn't have strategic reserves. We wouldn't have the proper spares mix on the battle field for planes, tanks, copters, early warning systems, airport radar or the space shuttle. "What Ifs?" are very, very important.

If we took your advice it would be too late to decide what to do.

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now, you also ought to know that just because some crazy people CHOOSE TO act nutty, does that mean you forgot about that word PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY... like for example, just coz i act crazy and make crazy posters about you Meeks, does that mean you are responsible for MY choices???? i mean come on now TMeeks!

lets take that to the extreme, lets say i made a dozen crazzzzeeee posters, the most crazy you ever saw.. and i decide to commit a crime myself. The law is gonna come after ME, not you,,, because I AM the one to blame, not you.

remmeber TMeekks - PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. I dont care how many crazzee folks is out there, they are responsible.

or, can you point me to something that proves that Obama (or anyone) has ordered his workers to make such posters? Show me and i might start to believe you.. seems like everyone has its own share of crazzzeee campaign workers.. and you may have seen my comments on it. it does not reflect the candidate.. even Joe mccains brother who people are equating with John mccain, i have put the responsibility on John Mccain's brother, Joe for his actions with that 911 call.


What I was talking about wasn't 'posters'. It was the document that was linked in the OP message that purports to demonstrate that Obama may be using Conversational Hypnotism in his speeches. Based on the fact that my observation is that Obama supporters generally can't effectively vocalize LOGICAL reasons for feeling the need to vote for him, I thought it would be worth the effort to study the document, research its premises and critique it.

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lets be fair now t meeks! im starting to like ya! ((it was that historical stuff that you provided :)


Babies and young children like me if that's any help. They are usually pretty good judges of character.

If ANY candidate were to think that they could use any form of hypnotism, including well documented Conversational Hypnosis techniques, it would be one of the most dispicable acts in our history. I trust this is NOT the case. But, I have to say at least the first 1/3 of the document is very interesting.

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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 9:59:28 PM   
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What is interesting to me is that the people of Germany adored Adolph Hitler. Yet, we can watch him hour after hour on film and have no draw to him whatsoever. I've wondered WHY this was, for years.

The document on Conversational Hypnosis might provide the key to that phenominon. The Germans heard him in GERMAN and, so any verbal and gesture techniques that he presented to them would have a far greater impact on them than listening or reading the translations does for us. The pacing would be different and the symbolism, which would have meaning to a German, is lost on Americans.

Milton Erickson, the father of Conversational Hypnotism, was largely self taught. If he could come up with the concepts, then it's not out of the question that Hitler could have developed his own form. He obviously found SOMETHING that worked to mesmerize people as discussed here.

The parallel to this moment in time is interesting.

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ORIGINAL: davemiller7

Agreed. It reminds me of the way many followed Adolph Hitler. He promised and people rallied around him. His loyal cadre of followers made him into the savior of Germany. Only after it was too late, did the German peole see the error of their ways.

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ORIGINAL: TMeeks

Agreed. But, from where is the heresy coming? The whole point of the links was to show that Obama's followers seem quite willing to produce heresy in praise of thier great one.




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RE: Obama the Hypnotist - 10/28/2008 10:12:51 PM   
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