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If Christ were to cast a ballot, how would he vote?

Huntley Brown, a concert pianist and man of God, says it best...


Why I Can't Vote For Obama
By Huntley Brown

Dear Friends,

A few months ago I was asked for my perspective on Obama. I sent out an e-mail with a few points. With the election just around the corner, I decided to complete my perspective. Those of you on my e-list have seen some of this before, but it's worth repeating...

First, I must say whoever wins the election will have my prayer support. Obama needs to be commended for his accomplishments--but I need to explain why I will not be voting for him.

Many of my friends process their identity through their blackness. I process my identity through Christ. Being a Christian (a Christ follower) means He leads. I follow. I can't dictate the terms. He does because He is the leader.

I can't vote black because I am black; I have to vote Christian because that's who I am. Christian first, black second. Neither should anyone from the other ethnic groups vote because of ethnicity. 200 years from now, I won't be asked if I was black or white. I will be asked if I knew Jesus and accepted Him as Lord and Savior.

In an election, there are many issues to consider. But when a society gets abortion, same-sex marriage, embryonic stem-cell research, human cloning--to name a few--wrong economic concerns will soon not matter.

We need to follow Martin Luther King's words. Don't judge someone by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. I don't know Obama, so all I can go off of is his voting record. His voting record earned him the title of the most liberal senator in the US Senate in 2007.

NATIONAL JOURNAL: Obama: Most Liberal Senator in 2007 (01/31/2008)

To beat Ted Kennedy and Hillary Clinton as the most liberal senator, takes some doing. Obama accomplished this feat in two short years. I wonder what would happen to America if he had four years to work with.

There is a reason Planned Parenthood gives him a 100% rating. There is a reason the homosexual community supports him. There is a reason Ahmadinejad, Chavez, Castro, Hamas, etc. love him. There is a reason he said he would nominate liberal judges to the Supreme Court. There is a reason he voted against the infanticide bill. There is a reason he voted No on the constitutional ban of same-sex marriage. There is a reason he voted No on banning partial birth abortion. There is a reason he voted No on confirming Justices Roberts and Alito. These two judges are conservatives, and they have since overturned partial birth abortion--the same practice Obama wanted to continue.
There is a reason Obama opposed the parental notification law.

Think about this: You can't give a kid an aspirin without parental notification but that same kid can have an abortion without parental notification. This is insane.

There is a reason he went to Jeremiah Wright's church for 20 years.

Obama tells us he has good judgment, but he sat under Jeremiah Wright's teaching for 20 years. Now he is condemning Wright's sermons. I wonder why now?

Obama said Jeremiah Wright led him to the Lord and discipled him. A disciple is one in training. Jesus told us in Matthew 28:19-20 "Go and make disciples of all nations." This means reproduce yourself. Teach people to think like you, walk like you, talk like you, believe what you believe, etc. The question I have is: What did Jeremiah Wright teach him?

Would you support a White President who went to a church which has tenets that said they have a ...

1. Commitment to the White Community
2. Commitment to the White Family
3. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
4. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the White Community.
5. Pledge to Allocate Regularly a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
6. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace the White Value System
7. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.

Would you support a President who went to a church like that?

Just change the word from white to black and you have the tenets of Obama's former church. If President Bush were a member of a church like this, he would be called a racist. Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton would have been marching outside.

This kind of church is a racist church. Obama did not wake up after 20 years and just discover he went to a racist church. The church can't be about race. Jesus did not come for any particular race. He came for the whole world.

A church can't have a value system based on race. The church's value system has to be based on biblical mandate. It does not matter if it's a white church or a black church, it's still wrong. Anyone from either race that attends a church like this would never get my vote.

Obama's former Pastor Jeremiah Wright is a disciple of liberal theologian James Cone, author of the 1970 book A Black Theology of Liberation. Cone once wrote: "Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then He is a murderer, and we had better kill Him."

Cone is the man Obama's mentor looks up to. Does Obama believe this?

So what does all this mean for the nation?

In the past, when the Lord brought someone with the beliefs of Obama to lead a nation it meant one thing--judgment.

Read 1 Samuel 8 when Israel asked for a king. First God says in 1 Samuel 1:9 "Now listen to them; but warn them solemnly and let them know what the king who will reign over them will do."

Then God says in 1 Samuel 8:18 " When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, and the LORD will not answer you in that day." 19 But the people refused to listen to Samuel. "No!" they said. "We want a king over us. 20 Then we will be like all the other nations, with a king to lead us and to go out before us and fight our battles." 21 When Samuel heard all that the people said, he repeated it before the LORD. 22 The LORD answered, "Listen to them and give them a king."

Here is what we know for sure.

God is not schizophrenic.

He would not tell one person to vote for Obama and one to vote for McCain. As the scripture says, a city divided against itself cannot stand, so obviously many people are not hearing from God.

Maybe I am the one not hearing--but I know God does not change and Obama contradicts many things I read in scripture, so I doubt it.

For all my friends who are voting for Obama, can you really look God in the face and say: Father, based on your word, I am voting for Obama--even though I know he will continue the genocidal practice of partial birth abortion. He might have to nominate three or four Supreme Court justices, and I am sure he will be nominating liberal judges who will be making laws that are against You. I also know he will continue to push for homosexual rights--even though you destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for this. I know I can look the other way because of the economy.

I could not see Jesus agreeing with many of Obama's positions. Finally, I have two questions for all my liberal friends.

Since we know someone's value system has to be placed on the nation,

1. Whose value system should be placed on the nation?

2. Who should determine that this is the right value system for the nation?

Blessings,

Huntley Brown

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John McCain will appoint justices like Alito and Roberts, and Alito has already stated that Roe v. Wade should be revisited

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ORIGINAL: Evangel70

IF Jesus taught us to look to the government to change the hearts of men regarding issues like abortion and gay rights, we would have a different choice of candidates.

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ORIGINAL: relady

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John McCain will appoint justices like Alito and Roberts, and Alito has already stated that Roe v. Wade should be revisited

Which, after 35 years and much supporting case law would be in and of itself "activist" rather than "constructionist." Repubs and prolifers are all for activist court decisions when it's something THEY support.

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ORIGINAL: relady

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John McCain will appoint justices like Alito and Roberts, and Alito has already stated that Roe v. Wade should be revisited

Which, after 35 years and much supporting case law would be in and of itself "activist" rather than "constructionist." Repubs and prolifers are all for activist court decisions when it's something THEY support.

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ORIGINAL: P31W

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abortion is a non-issue in this election anyway

Abortion may be a "non issue" for you in this election that however does not mean you are correct. If Obama wins he is going to strip states rights away. Meaning in our state parents will no longer be required to give concent for their 16 yr old daughter to have an abortion. Manditory counseling and the following 24 hour waiting period will be done away with. The medical requirement that our state has in place will be swept away.

Also taking into account that with an Obama administration public tax dollars will be used to promote and preform abortion is it going to be an issue all tax payers should be concerned about.


You cannot serve both God and Money.

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ORIGINAL: relady

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John McCain will appoint justices like Alito and Roberts, and Alito has already stated that Roe v. Wade should be revisited

Which, after 35 years and much supporting case law would be in and of itself "activist" rather than "constructionist." Repubs and prolifers are all for activist court decisions when it's something THEY support.

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ORIGINAL: P31W

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abortion is a non-issue in this election anyway

Abortion may be a "non issue" for you in this election that however does not mean you are correct. If Obama wins he is going to strip states rights away. Meaning in our state parents will no longer be required to give concent for their 16 yr old daughter to have an abortion. Manditory counseling and the following 24 hour waiting period will be done away with. The medical requirement that our state has in place will be swept away.

Also taking into account that with an Obama administration public tax dollars will be used to promote and preform abortion is it going to be an issue all tax payers should be concerned about.


You cannot serve both God and Money.

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ORIGINAL: SonInMe1

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abortion is a non-issue

When murdering children is not an issue, our nation should be destroyed.

Why are christian values seperate from financial ability or success? Money ain't evil, ya know? Its what you do with it or how it controls you that CAN be evil.

I wonder...all these blacks voting for Obama becaus ehe is black...where were they when Alan Keyes ran? Keyes was said not to have any experience because he never won an election....but I would take what Alan wanted over Obama any day.

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ORIGINAL: Lizahana

IMHO, since McCain (who, btw, voted in support of the appointments of Justices Anthony M. Kennedy, David H. Souter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen G. Breyer) is co-leader of the Gang of 14, and the Senate is controlled by Democrats, and will likely gain more seats, abortion is a non-issue in this election anyway. So, IMHO, then because of the aforementioned (which I'm sure people will include if they want to answer me), yes, this time, the economy trumps the abortion issue, since it is a non-issue.

Peace and God bless,

Is it a non-issue to you Lizahana because we will have Democrat controlled Legislative, Executive, and Judicial branches of government that will not let Roe v. Wade be overturned?

Not sure if you read this post (it's too long to repeat) but South Dakota has a bill on the books that will directly challenge Roe v. Wade: Abortion law LINK

John McCain will appoint justices like Alito and Roberts, and Alito has already stated that Roe v. Wade should be revisited. Barack said that he opposed them.

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ORIGINAL: P31W

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abortion is a non-issue in this election anyway

Abortion may be a "non issue" for you in this election that however does not mean you are correct. If Obama wins he is going to strip states rights away. Meaning in our state parents will no longer be required to give concent for their 16 yr old daughter to have an abortion. Manditory counseling and the following 24 hour waiting period will be done away with. The medical requirement that our state has in place will be swept away.

Also taking into account that with an Obama administration public tax dollars will be used to promote and preform abortion is it going to be an issue all tax payers should be concerned about.


You cannot serve both God and Money.

Liz has her stories and they never change, good economy, bad economy, she'll always find an excuse to support those who make it easy to kill children.

She spreads this nonsense that electing Obama will be no different than McCain concerning abortion. The truth is that electing BHO will be a death sentence for many children.

Obama has said that he will fight the Hyde amendment. The Hyde (R-IL) amendment prevents the fed gov. from paying for abortions. Liberal Nat Hentoff has estimated that it has saved one million lives.

Obama has also said that he will send money to foreign agencies that abort children. If you're a brown or black baby your chances of survival are in peril.

These are not all. He has other plans to insure the destruction of innocent lives, such as signing the Freedom of Choice Act and promoting pro-abortion activity in the UN.

Electing BHO will insure the destruction of many innocent children. Obama supporters don't care.