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RE: Marginal Swear Words - 10/24/2008 1:06:58 PM
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backrowbaptist
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What do you folks exclaim when you're alone and you stub your toe really badly?
I had a friend who would often exclaim, "Praise the Lord!".
One time he growled it after slamming his finger in something, and I gave him a sideways glance and said, "You may have said the words, but we all know what you meant!"
Yes, but it's not a sin to be angry when you stub your toe or hit your finger. You need an outlet for the pain and frustration. By saying "gosh-darn it" instead of "G-d-it", you're expressing anger/frustration without using the Lord's name. I think making the effort counts for something.
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RE: Marginal Swear Words - 10/24/2008 2:31:04 PM
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Some folks can ay the nastiest things using the sweetest words. This is an election year. Snarkiness abounds with the most flowery speech.
Oh, so true! And this is what I used my driving time this spring and summer working on, because while I don't swear, I had created a habit of talking back to drivers who did stupid things in such a way that although I was in the car alone, I embarrassed myself. I made a pact with myself to give a dollar to a strongly disliked charitable-type organization for each incident. It worked! I realized the other day that I haven't had to open the box to drop in a dollar in a couple months! Praise G-d!
I asked my husband last night what he says in the same circumstancs brought up here, and his answers were exactly the same as mine. Being a soldier did not change that in him, serving in Viet Nam didn't, watching people being killed there didn't, working in the post office didn't. People are what they are, doing what they do as they are prone by the way they live their lives.
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RE: Marginal Swear Words - 10/24/2008 2:50:08 PM
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Jhud
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Yes, but it's not a sin to be angry when you stub your toe or hit your finger. You need an outlet for the pain and frustration. By saying "gosh-darn it" instead of "G-d-it", you're expressing anger/frustration without using the Lord's name. I think making the effort counts for something.
Oh certainly, and using the Lord's name in such a manner is definitely sin; but I was chiding my friend (lovingly) because it was fairly obvious by the way he said it that the words on his lips were definitely not the ones in his mind.
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I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else.
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RE: Marginal Swear Words - 10/24/2008 3:52:24 PM
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What do you folks exclaim when you're alone and you stub your toe really badly?
Ouch!
Sometimes I add in a "that really hurt!" behind it.
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RE: Marginal Swear Words - 10/26/2008 3:56:22 PM
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Note to moderators: If this is inappropriate, you're welcome to delete it. Or if it's in the wrong place, please move it. Thanks!
Last night, after our Light Night program at the church, I asked one of our high schoolers how his hand was doing. He's a football player, and got it busted up pretty bad & recently had surgery. When I asked how his hand felt, he simply said, "It hurts like h**l." He was not trying to be crude, or a jerk. And it's obvious that he doesn't view that as any kind of swear word or curse word.
So I've been thinking...
Some swear/curse words are no brainers. The use of the names of God and Jesus, in vain, are wrong beyond question. And I'd add to that the Mother Of All Swear Words - the one that begins with F.
But beyond that, I've found over the years that a LOT of people do not see the words I consider "dirty" or "swearing" as that at all. Admittedly, I grew up in a very "language conservative" Christian home. So maybe I am overly sensitive to words that really aren't a problem.
Below are the meanings of some words I've always thought of as swear/curse words - or at the least, inappropriate.
- The other word for manure.
- The other word for your rear end.
- The other word for urine.
- The opposite of Heaven.
- That thing that holds back water, but with an "n" added.
- The other word for a female dog.
I think you all know what I mean.
Are any of these words, or others like them, acceptable to you folks? Unacceptable?
And what do you do if people, in your presence, are using them - but don't see them as inappropriate?
Again, I don't want to be offensive in any way! But I've been thinking a lot about this today, and wondering where people stand on these kind of words, and why.
Thanks!
The only swear word that really gets to me is the gd word. To me, that word is the Motherlode of ALL dirty words.
The others, I don't have a problem with. The type of people who act as if you are going to Hell for saying a swear word or something like "****" or "shut up", then those people are way too sensitive on the matter, personally attitudes like that just make me want to throw out all the dirty words (the ones that don't take the name of God or Jesus in vain) at them.
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Sadly it's true. That particular word, as well as the F word, and words like God, Jesus, etc... are often heard in conversations on Radio and TV soap programs or comedy programs. Sometimes, if it is before 9.00pm the word is bleeped out by a computer sound as it is "pre-watershed" and therefore children might hear it. After 9.00pm it seems swearing is OK.
Only today, I was viewing a comedy quiz program with comedians answering questions and one of them used the F word. He got a laugh and applause from the studio audience.
Now, assuming I wrote in and complained. At best my letter would be ignored. Or else, if my letter was aired it would be portrayed as me being over sensitive. It was after all - after 9.00pm !!!
Sounds like you have much more freedom of speech over there.
As for the kids, if they go to school, watch a movie, go outside in general, they are already going to hear those swear words and probably more. What's the use in shielding them from stuff they're going to hear or know about anyways?
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RE: Marginal Swear Words - 10/28/2008 5:06:51 PM
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The other word for urine.
Look up these verses in KJV and prepare to be surprised.
1 Sam 25.22
1 Sam 25.34
1 Kings 14.10
1 Kings 16.11
1Kings21.21
2Kings 9.8
2Kings 18.27
Isaiah 36.12
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RE: Marginal Swear Words - 10/29/2008 3:12:06 AM
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Mt 5:37 - "Simply let your 'Yes' be 'Yes,' and your 'No,' 'No'; anything beyond this comes from the evil one."
Though this verse refers to swearing an oath, I think it applies here also. The key is we should be accurate in our communication. If you really mean it, then it is appropriate to say it. Our language has lost too much because of in appropriate usage. Either the improper usage becomes common clouding the original meaning or an appropriate term is not permitted because some have misused it. If one is walking in a pasture and steps in something disgusting, it is appropriate to say what that something is. However, if one uses that same term to express the fact that one is mad or frustrated. That is wrong. In the latter case,one should say, "I am really mad!" or "This is really frustrating!" Nothing good can come from saying what we do not mean, especially when what we mean is obvious anyway.
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RE: Marginal Swear Words - 10/29/2008 3:28:14 AM
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I make attempts to not cuss. I think it shows a lack of education. There are the rare times that I do cuss. On those occasions, I find that my brain wasn't working fast enough to think of a more eloquent way of expressing itself.
What I do find interesting is that I've had many times where I've told someone on here or IRL that I find a word offensive and they will respond with something along the lines of "words change over time and that word is no longer offensive."
There is a word that, in the US, means cheering - as in cheering for your favorite baseball team. I was chatting online with a friend from New Zealand while I was watching the San Francisco Giants in the World Series against the Angels. My friend told me that in her country that word is highly offensive. I don't use that word anymore when I'm online. There are other words that I can use and there is no need to offend someone in that manner. I think that was about four years ago. I've gotten along just fine on the internet without that word.
Oh, I do still use that word when I'm talking about the part of a plant that grows underground.
It's a matter of respect. If someone tells you that a word is offensive to them, rather than make excuses to keep using the word, wouldn't it be better to show them the same respect that you want given to you?
You have to decide which is more important: The words you want to use or the people you want to talk to.
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RE: Marginal Swear Words - 10/29/2008 2:27:35 PM
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Bluethread
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It's a matter of respect. If someone tells you that a word is offensive to them, rather than make excuses to keep using the word, wouldn't it be better to show them the same respect that you want given to you?
You have to decide which is more important: The words you want to use or the people you want to talk to.
Good point. In this case, it would be good if the offended party could provide a clear and accurate alternative.
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