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RE: multiple baptisms - 10/25/2008 9:53:41 PM
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His_4_Ever
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I have to admit I've been baptized several times. I was first baptized, if you can call it that, when I was 2yrs old. It was one most traumatic moments of my life. I was absolutely terrified of water. The priest pick me up and held me with arm and started drizzling the water on my forehead. I turned into the Tazmania Devil. When it was all over everyone was soaked and I was in trouble never ever understanding why. I was then baptized again when I was 17, this is the one I consider as my "baptism". The couple of other times I was baptized, I didn't really look at them as baptisms. They were more symbolic of my re- commitment to God after slipping away a couple of times.
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RE: multiple baptisms - 10/25/2008 10:02:10 PM
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I have to admit I've been baptized several times. I was first baptized, if you can call it that, when I was 2yrs old. It was one most traumatic moments of my life. I was absolutely terrified of water. The priest pick me up and held me with arm and started drizzling the water on my forehead. I turned into the Tazmania Devil. When it was all over everyone was soaked and I was in trouble never ever understanding why. I was then baptized again when I was 17, this is the one I consider as my "baptism". The couple of other times I was baptized, I didn't really look at them as baptisms. They were more symbolic of my re- commitment to God after slipping away a couple of times.
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You absolutely made me laugh when you said that you turned into the Tazmania Devil and everyone was soaked. Im still laughing, I needed that tonight. But on a more serious note, as far as being baptised more than once, I dont think God sees anything wrong with it, there is no Scripture, that I have read saying we cant. My mother was as well. And if I ever feel that I want to or need to again, then I will as well.
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RE: multiple baptisms - 10/26/2008 3:47:23 PM
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bravjim
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I cannot fault you for receiving baptism in the Jordan. I would jump at the opportunity to do so.
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My parents had me baptized as a baby. Years later after I got saved, I started to study the Scriptures regarding baptism and came to the conclusion that I needed to be baptized as a believer in obedience to God's command (not wanting to derail the thread to a discussion on infant baptism here though -- I'm sure there are many threads already about that particular topic). So I made the decision and got baptized by immersion. I didn't consider this to be a "re-baptism" because I considered the sprinkling of water on me as a baby to be something other than baptism (not to discount that it was a sincere and well-intentioned act on the part of my parents).
About a year after my baptism, I had the opportunity to visit the Holy Land. As part of that trip, I knew I was going to have the chance to be baptized in the Jordan River if I chose to. I really struggled for months with the decision of whether to do it or not. I couldn't find any Scriptural precedent for doing so, but I also didn't find anything that would seem to prohibit me from being baptized again either. After praying about it for months, about a week before our trip, God gave me peace about it. So I did get baptized in the Jordan River, and God really blessed me through the experience.
So that's why I was baptized twice. It wasn't that I viewed the first baptism as insufficient or anything. I just was fortunate enough to have the chance to be baptized in the same river that Jesus was, and God said okay. 
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RE: multiple baptisms - 10/26/2008 4:03:51 PM
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bravjim
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Try out Acts 1:5 for size. If it is not a baptism, then why would Jesus Himself say, "John truly baptized with water, but you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days hence"? Paul said "For by One Spirit we were all baptized into one body-whether jews or greeks, whether slaves or free-and all have been made to drink into one Spirit." and let's not forget Matthew 3:11 where John the baptist says, "I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire."
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"One Lord, one faith one baptism..."
Yes absolutely....one baptism in the Holy Spirit, but the Bible does not say, "You should only be baptised once," as referring to the question for this thread that is. If so, I would like to read the Scripture.
Technically the reception of the Holy Spirit or the powerful gifts of the Holy is not a baptism. It is receiving the Holy Spirit or receiving the gifts of the Holy Spirit, but calling it a baptism is a figure of speech. Jesus uses another figure of speech, i.e., drinking of the Spirit, to refer to the same thing.
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RE: multiple baptisms - 10/26/2008 4:31:36 PM
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Try out Acts 1:5 for size. If it is not a baptism, then why would Jesus Himself say, "John truly baptized with water, but you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days hence"?
Because Jesus is comparing receiving the Holy Spirit with John's baptism. While John truly baptized with water, referring to the receiving of the Holy Spirit not many days hence as a baptism is a figure of speech, to go along with the literal baptism that John performed. Just like Jesus, when talking to the Samaritan woman at the well compared the reception of the Holy Spirit to drinking of water. We don't literally drink the Holy Spirit and we're not literally baptized with the Holy Spirit. Nevertheless, we do literally receive the Holy Spirit.
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Paul said "For by One Spirit we were all baptized into one body-whether jews or greeks, whether slaves or free-and all have been made to drink into one Spirit."
Actually, here Paul is referring to our literal baptism, the one done in water and he refers to our literal reception of the Holy Spirit with the figure of speech, "drink into one Spirit." Obviously we don't literally drink the Holy Spirit, but we are literally baptized into one body, with a literal baptism.
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and let's not forget Matthew 3:11 where John the baptist says, "I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire." Are you saying, here that Christians have to literally undergo a baptism of fire? I've never seen anyone survive a literal baptism in a literal fire. If baptism with fire is a figure of speech, then so is baptism with the Holy Spirit. However, that does not mean that we don't literally receive the Holy Spirit, because obviously we do.
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RE: multiple baptisms - 10/26/2008 6:53:38 PM
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Thank you for your insightful responses! This forum is such a blessing, I just love it.
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RE: multiple baptisms - 10/26/2008 7:18:08 PM
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rcjames
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"one Lord, one faith, one baptism.." Ephesians 4:5
There is only one baptism that matters. That is the baptism of the Holy Spirit into the family of God at the time of salvation.
Seems the Holy Spirit had somethng else in mind when the had the Author of Hebrews pen this;
(Heb 6:1) Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
(Heb 6:2) Of the doctrine of baptisms and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
Please not the plural rendering of Baptism.
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RE: multiple baptisms - 10/26/2008 9:50:32 PM
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My take on being baptized more than once is that you are in fact saying that God didn't get it right the first time.
How you react to this statement depends on your understanding of who is the active party in baptism. For example, Lutherans, among others, understand God to be the active party, so when we are baptized, we are receiving a sacrament from God. This doesn't mean that it's a "once and forget it" thing. There are times when we are asked to publicly affirm or confirm our baptismal vows, e.g. before becoming a member of a church, but this is not considered a rebaptism, because that would be saying that "God didn't get it right the first time." Also, the Lutheran understanding of making the sign of the cross is that we are reminding ourselves of our baptism every time we do this, but we are not rebaptizing ourselves.
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RE: multiple baptisms - 10/27/2008 2:12:32 AM
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GreatDivide:
We obviously see this differently, so I am not going to argue. I believe the baptism of the Holy Spirit is a literal thing, you don't. I can live with that.
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RE: multiple baptisms - 10/27/2008 3:26:00 PM
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Just a thought running through my mind about the multiple baptisms ... perhaps when someone is feeling the Holy Spirit working through them, being sanctified, they think they didn't "get it" before and now need to be baptized ... again.
I have witnessed this with some of the younger believers at church.
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RE: multiple baptisms - 10/27/2008 4:01:43 PM
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rcjames
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Just a thought running through my mind about the multiple baptisms ... perhaps when someone is feeling the Holy Spirit working through them, being sanctified, they think they didn't "get it" before and now need to be baptized ... again.
I have witnessed this with some of the younger believers at church.
Very perceptive Focusing, I have had many folks that when the came closer to God, by baPtism of the Holy Spirit, renewing of the mind, or just increased Faith; that they thought they had not been saved before. They just need some teaching on the maturation of the Believer.
This happens a lot to folks that are taught that what you get when you say a sinners prayer is all there is.
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RE: multiple baptisms - 10/27/2008 4:32:56 PM
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ronald
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The Lord is the one who needs to lead us in this decision. I was baptized as an infant. However many years later, the Lord led me to be baptized as a believer. So I was.
I have known people who are led to receive baptism over and over and over again---being led by people rather than the Lord. So it's important that we listen for His voice, His will in the matter, and let the opinions of man be set aside.
I feel all well said, but I feel Liveloved specifically made the point very clear! It's all about whether it is for devotion to God or it is led by human.....
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RE: multiple baptisms - 10/27/2008 9:46:24 PM
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bravjim
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ORIGINAL: Focusing
Just a thought running through my mind about the multiple baptisms ... perhaps when someone is feeling the Holy Spirit working through them, being sanctified, they think they didn't "get it" before and now need to be baptized ... again.
I have witnessed this with some of the younger believers at church.
Very perceptive Focusing, I have had many folks that when the came closer to God, by baPtism of the Holy Spirit, renewing of the mind, or just increased Faith; that they thought they had not been saved before. They just need some teaching on the maturation of the Believer.
This happens a lot to folks that are taught that what you get when you say a sinners prayer is all there is.
Thsnks
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So why are we not teaching new christians about maturation? Most of the maturation that I went through I went through alone, and this is a problem in many churches today. Aren't we supposed to be aiding new christians in the maturation process, teaching them the tools they need to achieve more maturation through the word, prayer, meditation, praise, and giving thanks?
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RE: multiple baptisms - 10/28/2008 5:16:46 AM
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greatdivide46
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So why are we not teaching new christians about maturation? Most of the maturation that I went through I went through alone, and this is a problem in many churches today. Aren't we supposed to be aiding new christians in the maturation process, teaching them the tools they need to achieve more maturation through the word, prayer, meditation, praise, and giving thanks?
I agree. We act like once someone becomes a Christian our job is done, when in reality it's just begun. In the physical world we would never leave a baby to fend for itself, yet we seem to have no problem doing that in the spiritual realm. It's kinda sad, really.
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