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RE: Do Non-Christians Have Spiritual Gifts? - 11/2/2008 10:49:20 AM
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Notice that the Holy Spirit came upon all of these people. I knew many of these verses; some had skills that the Holy Spirit rested upon so that they could use their skills to His purpose. A talent or a skill and a spiritual gift are 2 seperate things. Many will use their talents or skills for their own purpose, but Paul refers to the gifts of the spirit as something used to benefit God's purpose. Can you take a talent you had before getting saved and use it for God's purpose? Yes, as the Holy Spirit directs you to do. But without Him directing you, it is just a skill or talent that you had the ability to acquire without His help.
I think that the point you are trying to make is that
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Okay. So I will ask something. Is embroiderying a gift of the spirit? Is carpentry?
Before you answer yes or no, check the Bible. Neither of these are listed in the two major "gifts" chapters, but check what the rest of the Bible says.  
Since no one answered, perhaps because of my poor spelling, I think that we sell the gifts short. We tend only to look at the gifts listed in Paul's writings or at the gifts (or "gifts") that are public, in our faces, loud, rambunctious, public, persuasive. But there are certainly more gifts than these.
I believe that there are gifts of the H Spirit already at work in those whom He has called before they answer the call and that the H Spirit will expand and use to these gifts to glory of G-d after they becme believers. (I also understand that there are gifts of the human spirit that look like those gifts.) Further, I think we limit the H Spirit, His work, and when He has worked, with regard to the gifts of the H Spirit and His other works.
The H Spirit came upon 70 elders, and they prophesied -- in the early Scriptures, something that many don't know and/or deny:
Num 11:25 Then the LORD came down in the cloud and spoke to him; and He took of the Spirit who was upon him and placed {Him} upon the seventy elders. And when the Spirit rested upon them, they prophesied.
The H Spirit came upon Joshua, and he led Israel:
Num 17:18 So the LORD said to Moses, "Take Joshua the son of Nun, a man in whom is the Spirit, and lay your hand on him;
Deut 34:9 Now Joshua the son of Nun was filled with the spirit of wisdom
The H Spirit came upon persons who could sew and embroider:
Ex 28:3 "You shall speak to all the skillful persons whom I have endowed with the spirit of wisdom, that they make Aaron's garments to consecrate him, that he may minister as priest to Me."
The H Spirit came upon persons who could build and make instruments for the Tabernacle:
Ex 31:3 "I have filled him with the Spirit of God in wisdom, in understanding, in knowledge, and in all {kinds of} craftsmanship
Ex 35:31 "And He has filled him with the Spirit of God, in wisdom, in understanding and in knowledge and in all craftsmanship;
I think that our selling the H Spirit short in the gifts is the main cause of people thinking that those who sing, write music and songs, and teach should do it for nothing, because they are using a gift of the H Spirit, but the gifts of the H Spirit are many and the workman is worthy of his/her due pay.
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RE: Do Non-Christians Have Spiritual Gifts? - 11/2/2008 6:01:41 PM
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"Spiritual Gifts"...what those are and how and for what purposes they are to be used can be found in only three places that I know of in the Bible.
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1 "Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I do not want you to be ignorant: 7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to each one for the profit of all: 8 for to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, to another the word of knowledge through the same Spirit, 9 to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healings by the same Spirit, 10 to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another discerning of spirits, to another different kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues. 11 But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually as He wills." -I Corinthians 12
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1 "Pursue love, and desire spiritual gifts, but especially that you may prophesy. 2 For he who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God, for no one understands him; however, in the spirit he speaks mysteries. 3 But he who prophesies speaks edification and exhortation and comfort to men. 4 He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself, but he who prophesies edifies the church. 5 I wish you all spoke with tongues, but even more that you prophesied; for he who prophesies is greater than he who speaks with tongues, unless indeed he interprets, that the church may receive edification." -I Corinthians 14
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12 "Even so you, since you are zealous for spiritual gifts, let it be for the edification of the church that you seek to excel." -I Corinthians 14
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RE: Do Non-Christians Have Spiritual Gifts? - 11/2/2008 9:30:38 PM
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Many of us are disagreeing, many of us are writing that another is wrong, yet when they try to explain what they see as working of the H Spirit, they are often writing what the one they disagree with has already written, just writing the same things using other words.
I know very well how the H Spirit has worked within me, how He has moved, how He has provoked, how He has given to me in order that I may give.
When I brought up embroidery and carpentry, I took those right from the Scriptures, when it is WRITTEN that the H Spirit came upon them in order for them to use these gifts. There it is -- in the famous "black and white." To claim the those of the older Scriptures did not have the H Spirit seems to me to be elitist, especially in the face of the fact that the Scriptures say that they did have the H Spirit. The church does not have a monopoly on Him. In fact, His work in the Apostolic Scriptures were not carried out in churches at all but in synagogues, on hillsides, in fields, by the waters, and in the Temple. The H Spirit was given again in Acts in order to spead the Word to the world -- beyond their regularly-traveled area -- and in writing.
The H Spirit was not given to some in the older Scriptures then retracted. The gifts and callings of G-d are without turning back, without retraction, without repentence.
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RE: Do Non-Christians Have Spiritual Gifts? - 11/3/2008 11:27:25 AM
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Many of us are disagreeing, many of us are writing that another is wrong, yet when they try to explain what they see as working of the H Spirit, they are often writing what the one they disagree with has already written, just writing the same things using other words.
I know very well how the H Spirit has worked within me, how He has moved, how He has provoked, how He has given to me in order that I may give.
When I brought up embroidery and carpentry, I took those right from the Scriptures, when it is WRITTEN that the H Spirit came upon them in order for them to use these gifts. There it is -- in the famous "black and white." To claim the those of the older Scriptures did not have the H Spirit seems to me to be elitist, especially in the face of the fact that the Scriptures say that they did have the H Spirit. The church does not have a monopoly on Him. In fact, His work in the Apostolic Scriptures were not carried out in churches at all but in synagogues, on hillsides, in fields, by the waters, and in the Temple. The H Spirit was given again in Acts in order to spead the Word to the world -- beyond their regularly-traveled area -- and in writing.
The H Spirit was not given to some in the older Scriptures then retracted. The gifts and callings of G-d are without turning back, without retraction, without repentence.
You are free to believe what you want, but this is not what Scripture says and we are not free to interpret to suit how we belive.
Respectfully.....but adamantly.
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RE: Do Non-Christians Have Spiritual Gifts? - 11/3/2008 11:40:00 AM
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Can a non-believer be filled with the spirit? hmmm...
I personally...don't believe a non-believer exhibits spiritual gifts or the BIBLICAL gift of the spirit.
However, I do think non-believers can exhibit what the world defines as mercy, etc. but to what end? To who's glory? Certainly not God. So...again, I don't think non-Christians exhibit biblical spiritual gifts.
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RE: Do Non-Christians Have Spiritual Gifts? - 11/3/2008 11:51:55 AM
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Yes, we all have spiritual gifts - even non-christians. Christians will use their gifts to glorify God, non-christians will use them to glorify themselves (or to help others but not because it pleases God - because it pleases them). Just my opinion.
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RE: Do Non-Christians Have Spiritual Gifts? - 11/3/2008 12:03:53 PM
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Yes, we all have spiritual gifts - even non-christians. Christians will use their gifts to glorify God, non-christians will use them to glorify themselves (or to help others but not because it pleases God - because it pleases them). Just my opinion.
No, we do not ALL have spiritual gifts. How can someone who does not believe in God have a gift from the Holy Spirit? The spritual gifts are for the edification of the Body of Christ. Why would God endow a non-believer with gifts through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Non-believers are not indwelt by the Holy Spirit. Opinions are just that. Best to READ the Bible for answers especially when they are provided in such detail and clarity as they are for this particular subject. Thanks! 
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RE: Do Non-Christians Have Spiritual Gifts? - 11/3/2008 12:55:28 PM
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If it is used to glorify God, then it is not a spiritual gift. It may be a gift, or a talent, but it is not spiritual in nature. Spiritual gifts are for the glory of God not ourselves. Personal gifts are misused for our glory, but that doesn't make them spiritual. As my post above states, the natural man cannot receive the things of the Spirit. It is in black and white, in 1 Cor. chapter 2. If they cannot receive the things of the Spirit, then how can they receive Spiritual gifts?
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Yes, we all have spiritual gifts - even non-christians. Christians will use their gifts to glorify God, non-christians will use them to glorify themselves (or to help others but not because it pleases God - because it pleases them). Just my opinion.
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RE: Do Non-Christians Have Spiritual Gifts? - 11/3/2008 1:14:28 PM
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You are free to believe what you want, but this is not what Scripture says and we are not free to interpret to suit how we belive.
Respectfully.....but adamantly.
A flat statement just does not work, Solar. Which part or parts, then, of what I wrote are unscriptural and how?
This one?
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Many of us are disagreeing, many of us are writing that another is wrong, yet when they try to explain what they see as working of the H Spirit, they are often writing what the one they disagree with has already written, just writing the same things using other words.
This one?
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ORIGINAL: Covaan_Meshuga
I know very well how the H Spirit has worked within me, how He has moved, how He has provoked, how He has given to me in order that I may give..
This one?
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When I brought up embroidery and carpentry, I took those right from the Scriptures, when it is WRITTEN that the H Spirit came upon them in order for them to use these gifts. There it is -- in the famous "black and white." To claim the those of the older Scriptures did not have the H Spirit seems to me to be elitist, especially in the face of the fact that the Scriptures say that they did have the H Spirit.
This one?
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The church does not have a monopoly on Him. In fact, His work in the Apostolic Scriptures were not carried out in churches at all but in synagogues, on hillsides, in fields, by the waters, and in the Temple. The H Spirit was given again in Acts in order to spead the Word to the world -- beyond their regularly-traveled area -- and in writing. .
This one?
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The H Spirit was not given to some in the older Scriptures then retracted. The gifts and callings of G-d are without turning back, without retraction, without repentence.
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RE: Do Non-Christians Have Spiritual Gifts? - 11/3/2008 2:06:09 PM
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I'm glad you feel so strongly. I'm also glad you choose my particular post to respond to out of all the others. I suppose in my hurry I placed the word spiritual where i did not intend to - posting from work causes this sometimes.
Uh....I did not 'choose' your post. I have been posting all along...from the beginning....
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Further I think it would be a good idea in the OP to clarify exactly what specific gifts are being asked about. I believe every thing we are and are given is directly from God when we were fearfully and woderfully made by Him. Therefore they are spiritual by association.
She is asking about SPIRITUAL gifts...those that are given by God to serve the body....those intended for edification...not talents etc.
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RE: Do Non-Christians Have Spiritual Gifts? - 11/3/2008 2:38:50 PM
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It would seem there is a disagreement on how to categorize natural talents and acquired skills. Surely many of those are God-given. Many are not, like someone who is a very skillful sniper. Or a believable liar. These are also talents and skills, but are certainly not godly.
I would suggest that God can use more positive talents and skills, even moving thru them powerfully with His Spirit. However, the talent itself is not a "spiritual" gift, but natural.
BTW, in both testaments we see the HS "upon" and "within."
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RE: Do Non-Christians Have Spiritual Gifts? - 11/3/2008 3:05:50 PM
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Solarflare, talents can and should be used to serve the body of Christ. Keeping books for the church for example, those talented with "being good with numbers" are good for this.
All abilities or "knacks" that we have are designed by our maker.
My point is that we were all made unique with talents and such that we should use to serve God (as he no doubt intended us to do). God is spiritual, so one could think that the abilities he made within us are also such (at least in origin).
As I stated earlier it would be best to better define in the OP.
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RE: Do Non-Christians Have Spiritual Gifts? - 11/3/2008 3:06:01 PM
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Let me just talk this through here....
So, if I have the spiritual gift of xyz and I am not a Christian, then wouldn't the credit for said gift be given to someone/something other than God?
And if I'm not a believer, then I am God's enemy and by default it would seem I am giving credit to satan for something that is from the holy spirit?
So, isn't this by definition...blasphemy of the Holy Spirit?
Or am I taking this way too far?
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RE: Do Non-Christians Have Spiritual Gifts? - 11/3/2008 3:31:18 PM
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Such a simple question made complicated by adding to it. 
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RE: Do Non-Christians Have Spiritual Gifts? - 11/3/2008 3:32:41 PM
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Here's a good answer regarding non-Christians having spiritual gifts!
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Do Non-Christians Have Spiritual Gifts?
No!!
1 "Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant. 2 Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led. 3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost." I Corinthians 12
I submit that any man who has not accepted Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior does not have the Holy Spirit and therefore cannot have spiritual gifts. He also "calleth Jesus accursed" in that he has rejected Him... "He who is not with Me is against Me..." -Matthew 12:30
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RE: Do Non-Christians Have Spiritual Gifts? - 11/3/2008 3:44:24 PM
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Solarflare, talents can and should be used to serve the body of Christ. Keeping books for the church for example, those talented with "being good with numbers" are good for this.
All abilities or "knacks" that we have are designed by our maker.
My point is that we were all made unique with talents and such that we should use to serve God (as he no doubt intended us to do). God is spiritual, so one could think that the abilities he made within us are also such (at least in origin).
As I stated earlier it would be best to better define in the OP.
I am sorry, but this does not answer the question and the thread is about spiritual gifts.those given by the Spirit of God....not our natural talents.
The question is defined by the word "Spiritual" in front of gifts. And. listed here:
I Cor. 12: NOW concerning spiritual gifts, brothers, I do not want you to be ignorant. v.1
There are different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit. There are different kinds of service, but the same Lord. There are different kinds of working, but the same God, works all of them in all men. Now to each one the manifestaton of the Spirit is given for THE COMMON GOOD. to ne there is given through the Spirit the message of wisdom, to another the message of knowledge, by means of the same Spirit, to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another spekaing in different kinds of tongues and to still another the interpretaton of tongues. All these are the work of one and the same Spirit and he gives them to each one just as He determines. v. 4-11
The Spirit of God distributes the gifts according to v.11......he GIVES them.....it does not say we are born with them and they lie dormant until we become a Christian.
And why are they given???????:
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For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
That we henceforth be NO MORE CHILDREN, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
But speaking the truth in love, may GROW UP into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
There are other gifts...........but these (and some others) specifically for the edifiction of the believers......ie. NOT talents or talents we are born with. Someone quoted celibacy as a gift....it is not a gift to the body as such, but a gift in that a person can keep themselves celibate and be comfortable with it. SPRITUAL GIFTS are those that we COULD NOT have on our own.....they are SPIRITUAL......that is, not of our flesh....how can we heal someone? How can we 'speak in tongues" ? How can we have spiritual discernment without the Holy Spirit? They are basically supernatural........being from God and given by the Holy Spirit.
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RE: Do Non-Christians Have Spiritual Gifts? - 11/4/2008 9:50:58 AM
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This is a good question.
I would have to say yes and no.
I believe we are all given gifts that we should be using to glorify the Lord, ie singing, writing, athleticism, and so forth. Most of the time though we use these for our personal gain.
I would say no to spiritual gifts though, the kind of gifts that Paul speaks of. I think those are held for believers, once we are born again, ie tongues, prophecy, interpretation. Those he listed in 1 Cor.
I think there is a difference between the 2.
Agree.
God did not specify in the parable of the Talents whether He was speaking of all humans or just believers.
Example: Some people have the talent of encouraging others.
They may use this even before becoming a Christian, but would be able to use it more to its full compasity once a Christian.
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RE: Do Non-Christians Have Spiritual Gifts? - 11/4/2008 10:23:40 AM
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To try to clarify I'll use Manda's list of spiritual gifts to clarify what I mean when I ask do non christians have spiritual gifts.
That list (thank you Manda) is:
Romans 12
exhortation
giving
leadership
mercy
prophecy
service
teaching
1 Corinthians 12
administration
apostle
discernment
faith
healing
helps
knowledge
miracles
prophecy
teaching
tongues
tongues interpretation
wisdom
Ephesians 4
apostle
evangelism
pastor
prophecy
teaching
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RE: Do Non-Christians Have Spiritual Gifts? - 11/4/2008 10:52:51 AM
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Thank you for clarifying, RamiRedeemed.
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To try to clarify I'll use Manda's list of spiritual gifts to clarify what I mean when I ask do non christians have spiritual gifts.
That list (thank you Manda) is:
Romans 12
exhortation
giving
leadership
mercy
prophecy
service
teaching
1 Corinthians 12
administration
apostle
discernment
faith
healing
helps
knowledge
miracles
prophecy
teaching
tongues
tongues interpretation
wisdom
Ephesians 4
apostle
evangelism
pastor
prophecy
teaching
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RE: Do Non-Christians Have Spiritual Gifts? - 11/4/2008 11:14:33 AM
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Ooops, I posted over you, Kath. Hope this is O.K.!
Okay, this thread is very far removed from the OP's original question which was, "Do Non-Christians Have Spiritual Gifts?" and has taken the rural route to a discussion of which gifts are "spiritual" gifts and which are not. As I said before, there are only three mentions of "spiritual gifts" in the Bible and they are found in I Corinthians 12 and 14. However, let's see if we can address the gifts listed below and still stay true to the intent of the OP...
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ORIGINAL: RamiRedeemed
To try to clarify I'll use Manda's list of spiritual gifts to clarify what I mean when I ask do non Christians have spiritual gifts.
That list is:
Romans 12
exhortation
giving
leadership
mercy
prophecy
service
teaching
5 "...so we, being many, are one body in Christ, and individually members of one another. 6 Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, let us use them: if prophecy, let us prophesy in proportion to our faith; 7 or ministry, let us use it in our ministering; he who teaches, in teaching; 8 he who exhorts, in exhortation; he who gives, with liberality; he who leads, with diligence; he who shows mercy, with cheerfulness." -Romans 12
While these are not gifts that are listed as specifically as "spiritual" gifts, I believe that these particular gifts are spiritual in that they fulfill the I Corinthians 14 verse that says: 12 "Even so you, since you are zealous for spiritual gifts, let it be for the edification of the church that you seek to excel."
They are also gifts that can only be found in a Christian. A Non-Christian cannot have these gifts.
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1 Corinthians 12
administration
apostle
discernment
faith
healing
helps
knowledge
miracles
prophecy
teaching
tongues
tongues interpretation
wisdom
1 "Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I do not want you to be ignorant: 7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to each one for the profit of all: 8 for to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, to another the word of knowledge through the same Spirit, 9 to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healings by the same Spirit, 10 to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another discerning of spirits, to another different kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues. 11 But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually as He wills." -I Corinthians 12
While administration, apostle, discernment, and teaching are not mentioned here, as has already been noted the gifts in these verses are indeed reported to be "spiritual" gifts and are only given to Christians. Non-Christians cannot have these gifts.
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Ephesians 4
apostle
evangelism
pastor
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7 "But to each one of us grace was given according to the measure of Christ's gift. 8 Therefore He says: "When He ascended on high, He led captivity captive, And gave gifts to men." 9 (Now this, "He ascended"--what does it mean but that He also first descended into the lower parts of the earth? 10 He who descended is also the One who ascended far above all the heavens, that He might fill all things.) 11 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ,"
Again...while these are not gifts that are listed as specifically as "spiritual" gifts, I believe that these particular gifts are spiritual in that they were given by Christ Himself (how much more spiritual can you get?) and they also fulfill the I Corinthians 14 verse that says: 12 "Even so you, since you are zealous for spiritual gifts, let it be for the edification of the church that you seek to excel."
They are also gifts that can only be found in a Christian. A Non-Christian cannot have these gifts.
Can we move on now? 
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RE: Do Non-Christians Have Spiritual Gifts? - 11/4/2008 11:59:25 AM
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raivyne
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This is what I was trying to say basically. God give us gifts and talents when we are created.
Let's take being a teacher for example. A non-Christian who was created to teach may very well end up being a teacher, but he or she won't be glorifying God with her gift being that he or she is a non-Christian.
However, let's say she converts to Christianity, now she can use her gift to glorify God. She can look for ways to use her gift the way God intended her to. It's still the same ability she's always had, but now she knows the higher purpose for that gift.
Would you all say that it was not a spiritual gift at all? Or until she became a Christian?
I would say the gift was God given at the time of creation. So, is a God given talent like this not spiritual because it is an ability present at birth? You would call the same gift Spiritual in another person who never wanted to teach or thought they could until after they became a Christian?
I suppose I could go with that if we were defining Spiritual gifts as something not possible for a particular individual to do/say prior to receiving the Holy Spirit. These Spiritual gifts could be present at birth in some, but not for others until they receive the Holy Spirit. Such as never playing an instrument, then suddenly being able to play.
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RE: Do Non-Christians Have Spiritual Gifts? - 11/4/2008 12:17:48 PM
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quote:
ORIGINAL: raivyne
This is what I was trying to say basically. God give us gifts and talents when we are created.
Let's take being a teacher for example. A non-Christian who was created to teach may very well end up being a teacher, but he or she won't be glorifying God with her gift being that he or she is a non-Christian.
However, let's say she converts to Christianity, now she can use her gift to glorify | | |
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