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RE: When the beggers come knocking... do you answer? - 11/4/2008 4:58:47 PM
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Covaan_Meshuga
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I'm imagining it. And why would they be sukkah hopping?
That's just what is done! It honors G-d, it's fun, it builds people up in the L-rd, it builds community, we meet new people, we learn more about each other, we discuss things, we play, we eat (of course!), we play and sing music . . . .
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RE: When the beggers come knocking... do you answer? - 11/4/2008 5:00:51 PM
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TorchHeart
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That's just what is done! It honors God, it's fun, it builds people up in the Lord, it builds community, we meet new people, we learn more about each other, we discuss things, we play, we eat (of course!), we play and sing music . . . .
Is this an actual holiday? It does sound fun.
Are there traditional foods? What music do they play? Country? Classic Rock? If we can get a band the can cover Motorhead, I'm definitely in!
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RE: When the beggers come knocking... do you answer? - 11/4/2008 5:00:57 PM
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d4nnyb0y02
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I guess it just depends on if you take things way too seriously in your life or not.
If that's the case, lets get rid of all holidays.
And what if you don't take life serious enough? I suppose then we would just haphazardly do whatever the world does, because it's fun.
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RE: When the beggers come knocking... do you answer? - 11/4/2008 5:05:35 PM
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d4nnyb0y02
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That's just what is done! It honors God, it's fun, it builds people up in the Lord, it builds community, we meet new people, we learn more about each other, we discuss things, we play, we eat (of course!), we play and sing music . . . .
Is this an actual holiday? It does sound fun.
Are there traditional foods? What music do they play? Country? Classic Rock? If we can get a band the can cover Motorhead, I'm definitely in!
Yes, Motorhead. There is a great example to model our lives...
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RE: When the beggers come knocking... do you answer? - 11/4/2008 5:05:41 PM
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TorchHeart
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yes, but this is a case of taking life too seriously.
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RE: When the beggers come knocking... do you answer? - 11/4/2008 5:07:57 PM
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Covaan_Meshuga
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That's just what is done! It honors God, it's fun, it builds people up in the Lord, it builds community, we meet new people, we learn more about each other, we discuss things, we play, we eat (of course!), we play and sing music . . . .
Is this an actual holiday? It does sound fun.
Are there traditional foods? What music do they play? Country? Classic Rock? If we can get a band the can cover Motorhead, I'm definitely in!
It is eight days around this time, following the Hebrew calendar. This year's was Oct 14 - 20 plus one more day -- Shimini Etzeret. The children would never miss the world's halloweed, if we had continued this time. It honors G-d, it looks forward to our time with Him. That's what it's about.
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"Ladies and gentlemen, there are things that you will only be able to learn by the weakest among us, and when you snuff them out, you are the one that loses." ~~Gianna Jesson, 1977 LA, CA, saline abortion survivor
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RE: When the beggers come knocking... do you answer? - 11/4/2008 5:09:08 PM
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d4nnyb0y02
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yes, but this is a case of taking life too seriously.
Mind backing that up w/ some scripture? This isn't just about a holiday, it's about what is done on the holiday. I could go to the Word of God and start a list of why Halloween is wrong if you want. Can you give me any basis for why it is good other than, "It's fun." ?
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RE: When the beggers come knocking... do you answer? - 11/4/2008 5:11:15 PM
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TorchHeart
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It is eight days around this time, following the Hebrew calendar. This year's was Oct 14 - 20 plus one more day -- Shimini Etzeret. The children would never miss the world's halloweed, if we had continued this time. It honors God, it looks forward to our time with Him. That's what it's about.
OK. I thought you were making this stuff up. So tell me more about it. How would we celebrate it? Why is it better than Halloween (aside from the number of days)? What traditional things would have happened about this?
I would like a Motorhead or Dire Straits cover band, but is there some kind of traditional music that you would need/sing?
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RE: When the beggers come knocking... do you answer? - 11/4/2008 5:12:38 PM
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TorchHeart
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Mind backing that up w/ some scripture? This isn't just about a holiday, it's about what is done on the holiday. I could go to the Word of God and start a list of why Halloween is wrong if you want. Can you give me any basis for why it is good other than, "It's fun." ?
Yeah, I'm sure I could. But why bother? I could do the same thing for Christmas.
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RE: When the beggers come knocking... do you answer? - 11/4/2008 5:13:19 PM
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d4nnyb0y02
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Mind backing that up w/ some scripture? This isn't just about a holiday, it's about what is done on the holiday. I could go to the Word of God and start a list of why Halloween is wrong if you want. Can you give me any basis for why it is good other than, "It's fun." ?
Yeah, I'm sure I could. But why bother? I could do the same thing for Christmas.
Huh?
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(Gal 1:6;5:4) I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace
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RE: When the beggers come knocking... do you answer? - 11/4/2008 5:18:12 PM
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Covaan_Meshuga
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It is eight days around this time, following the Hebrew calendar. This year's was Oct 14 - 20 plus one more day -- Shimini Etzeret. The children would never miss the world's halloweed, if we had continued this time. It honors God, it looks forward to our time with Him. That's what it's about.
OK. I thought you were making this stuff up. So tell me more about it. How would we celebrate it? Why is it better than Halloween (aside from the number of days)? What traditional things would have happened about this?
I would like a Motorhead or Dire Straits cover band, but is there some kind of traditional music that you would need/sing?
Hee-hee-hee!  I should not do that in this thread. Okay? Look it up on the Internet, or we could take this elsewhere on CW, if you choose.
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"Ladies and gentlemen, there are things that you will only be able to learn by the weakest among us, and when you snuff them out, you are the one that loses." ~~Gianna Jesson, 1977 LA, CA, saline abortion survivor
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RE: When the beggers come knocking... do you answer? - 11/4/2008 7:38:45 PM
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TorchHeart
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Mind backing that up w/ some scripture? This isn't just about a holiday, it's about what is done on the holiday. I could go to the Word of God and start a list of why Halloween is wrong if you want. Can you give me any basis for why it is good other than, "It's fun." ?
Yeah, I'm sure I could. But why bother? I could do the same thing for Christmas.
Huh?
What wasn't there to understand?
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RE: When the beggers come knocking... do you answer? - 11/4/2008 9:30:01 PM
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d4nnyb0y02
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By all means, go ahead. You have no scriptural reason to back up what you are saying. If you do, lets talk about it. I'd love to see it. My possition is that you don't have a scriptural leg to stand on, but if you can prove me wrong, you should do that. Your only basis for supporting Halloween is that you find it fun, and fun for the kiddies. Is that why we celebrate holidays, to please our flesh, or should we do what we do for the glory of God? Sorry, but "having fun" isn't to the glory of God. Anyone can have fun, and just because we find something to be fun doesn't make it right.
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(Gal 1:6;5:4) I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace
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RE: When the beggers come knocking... do you answer? - 11/4/2008 9:46:44 PM
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TorchHeart
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By all means, go ahead. You have no scriptural reason to back up what you are saying. If you do, lets talk about it. I'd love to see it. My possition is that you don't have a scriptural leg to stand on, but if you can prove me wrong, you should do that. Your only basis for supporting Halloween is that you find it fun, and fun for the kiddies. Is that why we celebrate holidays, to please our flesh, or should we do what we do for the glory of God? Sorry, but "having fun" isn't to the glory of God. Anyone can have fun, and just because we find something to be fun doesn't make it right.
So what's your point?
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RE: When the beggers come knocking... do you answer? - 11/4/2008 11:11:24 PM
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Yeah, I'm sure I could. But why bother? I could do the same thing for Christmas.
Huh?
Torcheart is right~
There is no bibical basis for Christmas. We adapted this holiday from the pagans eventhough many Christians celebrate it as Christ birth.
Jesus was not born on Dec.25th and if you read the gospels it backs this up totally.
Jesus was born closer to September/October
In Luke it state that John the Baptist was conceive 3 months before Jesus as he was the prohpet to make the path for His coming.
Also in the gospels it states that the present king (herod) asked the Wisemen (NLB Astrologers) to let him know when they go to worship the babe.
Many beleiver when the wisemen went to worship him he was a babe. If this is true then why did King Herod order all boy from age 2 years and younger be slaughtered? Because Jesus may not have been a baby but a toddler at this point. It took them months to arrive.
Not only this Paul used a fable of the christmas child from a pagan worship to portray Christ to win converts in Rome and Greek in which they worshipped other gods.
Look it up and when you finish leave santa his cookies and milk
Thanx
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RE: When the beggers come knocking... do you answer? - 11/5/2008 10:08:38 AM
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d4nnyb0y02
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There is no bibical basis for Christmas. We adapted this holiday from the pagans eventhough many Christians celebrate it as Christ birth.
All fine and great, but Torchheart brought up Christmas, not me. I'm still talking about Halloween, and awaiting scriptural confirmation of supporting its activities (dressing up as evil as possible, and celebrating death). Bringing up Christmas was a baited hook thrown out there to deviate from the challenge/topic at hand--Halloween. Torchheart might be right, but talking about Christmas is another subject. Someone should start a thread if they want to talk about it.
...waiting.
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(Gal 1:6;5:4) I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace
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RE: When the beggers come knocking... do you answer? - 11/5/2008 10:48:43 AM
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TorchHeart
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There is no bibical basis for Christmas. We adapted this holiday from the pagans eventhough many Christians celebrate it as Christ birth.
All fine and great, but Torchheart brought up Christmas, not me. I'm still talking about Halloween, and awaiting scriptural confirmation of supporting its activities (dressing up as evil as possible, and celebrating death). Bringing up Christmas was a baited hook thrown out there to deviate from the challenge/topic at hand--Halloween. Torchheart might be right, but talking about Christmas is another subject. Someone should start a thread if they want to talk about it.
...waiting.
Unfortunately it isn't a baited hook to deviate. Its just showing you that just because there is no scritural support for such activities doesn't mean that its wrong.
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RE: When the beggers come knocking... do you answer? - 11/5/2008 11:35:33 AM
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d4nnyb0y02
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There is no bibical basis for Christmas. We adapted this holiday from the pagans eventhough many Christians celebrate it as Christ birth.
All fine and great, but Torchheart brought up Christmas, not me. I'm still talking about Halloween, and awaiting scriptural confirmation of supporting its activities (dressing up as evil as possible, and celebrating death). Bringing up Christmas was a baited hook thrown out there to deviate from the challenge/topic at hand--Halloween. Torchheart might be right, but talking about Christmas is another subject. Someone should start a thread if they want to talk about it.
...waiting.
Unfortunately it isn't a baited hook to deviate. Its just showing you that just because there is no scritural support for such activities doesn't mean that its wrong.
It is when there are clear scripture support against such activities. You clearly don't have any scirptural support to advocate dressing up like evil characters and celebrating death... then we'll leave it at that.
Proverbs 8:36
But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.
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(Gal 1:6;5:4) I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace
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RE: When the beggers come knocking... do you answer? - 11/5/2008 11:38:22 AM
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TorchHeart
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It is when there are clear scripture support against such activities. You clearly don't have any scirptural support to advocate dressing up like evil characters and celebrating death... then we'll leave it at that.
"Those who hate me, love death." That's what Jesus said.
Really? We're celebrating death? I've always taken it as celebrating youth.
I love Christ. I've been a Christian for a very long time. Are you saying that I don't or that I'm not, simply because I see people taking a simple holiday way too seriously? You'll point a finger at these traditions and say "they're evil because of their history," but you won't do the same thing for the holiest of Christian holidays?
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RE: When the beggers come knocking... do you answer? - 11/5/2008 11:42:33 AM
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It is when there are clear scripture support against such activities. You clearly don't have any scirptural support to advocate dressing up like evil characters and celebrating death... then we'll leave it at that.
"Those who hate me, love death." That's what Jesus said.
Really? We're celebrating death?
I love Christ. I've been a Christian for a very long time. Are you saying that I don't, son?
First, I'm sorry, I said "that's what Jesus said." I corrected myself on that too late. All the Word is essentially what Jesus said, but that is from proverbs.
Proverbs 8:36
But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.
I'm just saying you have no scriptural support for advocating a holiday that celebrates death.
Edit: (Oh, and witchcraft too).
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(Gal 1:6;5:4) I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace
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RE: When the beggers come knocking... do you answer? - 11/5/2008 11:44:26 AM
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TorchHeart
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I'm just saying you have no scriptural support for advocating a holiday that celebrates death.
And I'm saying that just because I have no scriptural support doesn't mean that its wrong.
Also you're incorrect. Just because its from Proverbs doesnt' mean that its what Christ said. Its the Word of God, but to say that its a quote from Jesus would be incorrect.
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RE: When the beggers come knocking... do you answer? - 11/5/2008 11:45:48 AM
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d4nnyb0y02
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I'm just saying you have no scriptural support for advocating a holiday that celebrates death.
And I'm saying that just because I have no scriptural support doesn't mean that its wrong.
Also you're incorrect. Just because its from Proverbs doesnt' mean that its what Christ said. Its the Word of God, but to say that its a quote from Jesus would be incorrect.
Would you like me to compile a list about how celebrating evil, delighting in death, and practicing witchcraft is wrong?
I already said that it wasn't a quote from Jesus. You didn't know that though, I had to point it out to you. What Jesus said, however, is equal to what we are told in all of God's Word... it is all the same. One God, and that is the point. Nevertheless, I said it wasn't a quote from Jesus' mouth. I corrected myself on that.
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