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To My Fellow Conservatives.... - 11/1/2008 10:18:05 AM   
tafkam

 

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Despite polls showing some measure of last minute momentum for John McCain, I have serious doubts that he will be able to overcome Obama's lead, and I have resigned myself to the fact that we may very well wake up Nov 5th to the words "President elect Barack Hussein Obama".

If you're like me, you are not happy about this, and you are probably, and rightfully, concerned about the direction that Obama will take our nation. Granted, he may only be a one term President, but the damage he will do to this nation will take decades to undo.

However, I would hope that we as conservatives, during the aftermath of the election and during the subsequent four years, would take a higher road than we have seen from our liberal friends during George Bush's two terms in office. We have seen character assassination on a mass scale, accusations of "stolen elections", and a level of sheer, stark raving hatred on a level I have never witnessed for a single human being.

Would it be too much to ask that we show ourselves to be made of stronger stuff, to operate on a slightly deeper level of discourse, and to accord the office of President the respect it deserves, even if it's not "our guy" in the Oval Office? The left has shown us vividly what it is made of the last eight years, so the standard shouldn't be very hard to surpass, but I would hope that we would conduct ourselves in a manner that is light years removed from the vitriol and anger we have seen so graphically displayed.

I for one, will commit to acknowledge this man as "President Obama", and I will commit to pray for him, as I have for George Bush, and as I did for Bill Clinton. And I will correct anyone who dares to disrespect the office he holds.

Does that mean Obama will escape criticism? Of course not. But I think we can do better than bumper sticker slogans (remember "Bush Lied, Kids Died"), or comparing the President to a zoo animal, filthy takes on his last name, etc.....I think we can make our displeasure and disagreement known without descending to sixth grade playground language and juvenile barbs.

I'm praying that there is still some civility and respect left in this country, and I hope that "my side" will be the ones to demonstrate it.

What say you?

[Moderator Note: The OP has expressed his desire that only conservatives post in this thread. Please honor that request.]


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RE: To My Fellow Conservatives.... - 11/1/2008 10:21:28 AM   
Peter_Gunn

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: tafkam

Despite polls showing some measure of last minute momentum for John McCain, I have serious doubts that he will be able to overcome Obama's lead, and I have resigned myself to the fact that we may very well wake up Nov 5th to the words "President elect Barack Hussein Obama".

If you're like me, you are not happy about this, and you are probably, and rightfully, concerned about the direction that Obama will take our nation. Granted, he may only be a one term President, but the damage he will do to this nation will take decades to undo.

However, I would hope that we as conservatives, during the aftermath of the election and during the subsequent four years, would take a higher road than we have seen from our liberal friends during George Bush's two terms in office. We have seen character assassination on a mass scale, accusations of "stolen elections", and a level of sheer, stark raving hatred on a level I have never witnessed for a single human being.

Would it be too much to ask that we show ourselves to be made of stronger stuff, to operate on a slightly deeper level of discourse, and to accord the office of President the respect it deserves, even if it's not "our guy" in the Oval Office? The left has shown us vividly what it is made of the last eight years, so the standard shouldn't be very hard to surpass, but I would hope that we would conduct ourselves in a manner that is light years removed from the vitriol and anger we have seen so graphically displayed.

I for one, will commit to acknowledge this man as "President Obama", and I will commit to pray for him, as I have for George Bush, and as I did for Bill Clinton. And I will correct anyone who dares to disrespect the office he holds.

Does that mean Obama will escape criticism? Of course not. But I think we can do better than bumper sticker slogans (remember "Bush Lied, Kids Died"), or comparing the President to a zoo animal, filthy takes on his last name, etc.....I think we can make our displeasure and disagreement known without descending to sixth grade playground language and juvenile barbs.

I'm praying that there is still some civility and respect left in this country, and I hope that "my side" will be the ones to demonstrate it.

What say you?


Agreed...well stated! Even if we don't respect the "person", we are biblically mandated to respect the "office." And we are also to pray for all our leaders. So, no matter the results, I can, and will, commit to do both of those.
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RE: To My Fellow Conservatives.... - 11/1/2008 10:35:28 AM   
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I agree with you whole-heartedly. I cannot say that we do not have the same kind of immature people as the other side but the thing we do not have is the liberal media. In the event of a 'President Obama' the media will not be as prone to taking cheap shots at every decision he makes. Quite the contrary, they will be out there justifying every move he makes. The entertainment industry will be doing the same. So the mindless immature among us will be less likely to making 'bumper-sticker' attacks against a 'President Obama'.

That being said, I would hope that we take every opportunity to level substantive criticism whenever justified. The key-word there is "substantive". That means whatever our objection might be, it cannot be summed up in a Jon Stewart style one-liner or a cleaver bumper sticker. We need to make it very clear why we believe President Obama's decisions on the economy are wrong, or why his decisions on defense spending are foolish, or why his foreign policies are dangerous.

We must also strive to have good memories and remember his campaign promises and hold him accountable when he breaks a promise or if our predictions of his failed policies come to pass.

I agree that this is likely and I, for one, am not happy about that but we must be respectful of the man and the office he holds... unlike the way the same man and his supporters have behaved.
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RE: To My Fellow Conservatives.... - 11/1/2008 1:33:14 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: tafkam

If you're like me, you are not happy about this, and you are probably, and rightfully, concerned about the direction that Obama will take our nation. Granted, he may only be a one term President, but the damage he will do to this nation will take decades to undo.


Are you really serious?? Look at the damage that's been done during the current administration that we're trying to clean up now and will probably be cleaning up for more than the next four years.

quote:

ORIGINAL: tafkam

However, I would hope that we as conservatives, during the aftermath of the election and during the subsequent four years, would take a higher road than we have seen from our liberal friends during George Bush's two terms in office. We have seen character assassination on a mass scale, accusations of "stolen elections", and a level of sheer, stark raving hatred on a level I have never witnessed for a single human being.


Again, are you serious... please. Like many of you here have taken the high road when many of you here are very guilty of character assassination on a mass scale. Case in point, look at all the threads about Obama, majority based on fear, rumors, lies, and malicious unwarranted attacks. Then again, why does it surprise me that you probably won't see the hypocrisy of what you wrote.

quote:

ORIGINAL: tafkam

Would it be too much to ask that we show ourselves to be made of stronger stuff, to operate on a slightly deeper level of discourse, and to accord the office of President the respect it deserves, even if it's not "our guy" in the Oval Office? The left has shown us vividly what it is made of the last eight years, so the standard shouldn't be very hard to surpass, but I would hope that we would conduct ourselves in a manner that is light years removed from the vitriol and anger we have seen so graphically displayed.


Yeah... ok... and like the extreme right hasn't shown everyone even the moderate conservatives in their party the same?


quote:

ORIGINAL: tafkam

I'm praying that there is still some civility and respect left in this country, and I hope that "my side" will be the ones to demonstrate it.


If that was the case, many on "your side" wouldn't have made many of the ignorant comments about "blacks running America" , "Obama's an Arab", "Obama's a Muslim", this part of America is where real Americans are, and all the other things that have been said and done by those on "your side"... yeah way for those on "your side" to show they still have some civility and respect left for others in this country.
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RE: To My Fellow Conservatives.... - 11/1/2008 1:41:17 PM   
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Longfingers1

Exactly what is your purpose in posting such garbage on this thread? Is it to show how incapable you are of the civility that Takfam proposes?

Or is it simply that you cannot read the title of the thread?
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RE: To My Fellow Conservatives.... - 11/1/2008 1:43:37 PM   
Sonrise

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Longfingers1

quote:

ORIGINAL: tafkam

If you're like me, you are not happy about this, and you are probably, and rightfully, concerned about the direction that Obama will take our nation. Granted, he may only be a one term President, but the damage he will do to this nation will take decades to undo.


Are you really serious?? Look at the damage that's been done during the current administration that we're trying to clean up now and will probably be cleaning up for more than the next four years.

quote:

ORIGINAL: tafkam

However, I would hope that we as conservatives, during the aftermath of the election and during the subsequent four years, would take a higher road than we have seen from our liberal friends during George Bush's two terms in office. We have seen character assassination on a mass scale, accusations of "stolen elections", and a level of sheer, stark raving hatred on a level I have never witnessed for a single human being.


Again, are you serious... please. Like many of you here have taken the high road when many of you here are very guilty of character assassination on a mass scale. Case in point, look at all the threads about Obama, majority based on fear, rumors, lies, and malicious unwarranted attacks. Then again, why does it surprise me that you probably won't see the hypocrisy of what you wrote.

quote:

ORIGINAL: tafkam

Would it be too much to ask that we show ourselves to be made of stronger stuff, to operate on a slightly deeper level of discourse, and to accord the office of President the respect it deserves, even if it's not "our guy" in the Oval Office? The left has shown us vividly what it is made of the last eight years, so the standard shouldn't be very hard to surpass, but I would hope that we would conduct ourselves in a manner that is light years removed from the vitriol and anger we have seen so graphically displayed.


Yeah... ok... and like the extreme right hasn't shown everyone even the moderate conservatives in their party the same?


quote:

ORIGINAL: tafkam

I'm praying that there is still some civility and respect left in this country, and I hope that "my side" will be the ones to demonstrate it.


If that was the case, many on "your side" wouldn't have made many of the ignorant comments about "blacks running America" , "Obama's an Arab", "Obama's a Muslim", this part of America is where real Americans are, and all the other things that have been said and done by those on "your side"... yeah way for those on "your side" to show they still have some civility and respect left for others in this country.


The title specifically said "conservative", yet you felt the need to post. Won't really matter though as you'll never post here again in 4 more days.
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RE: To My Fellow Conservatives.... - 11/1/2008 1:43:54 PM   
Peter_Gunn

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Longfingers1

quote:

ORIGINAL: tafkam

If you're like me, you are not happy about this, and you are probably, and rightfully, concerned about the direction that Obama will take our nation. Granted, he may only be a one term President, but the damage he will do to this nation will take decades to undo.


Are you really serious?? Look at the damage that's been done during the current administration that we're trying to clean up now and will probably be cleaning up for more than the next four years.

quote:

ORIGINAL: tafkam

However, I would hope that we as conservatives, during the aftermath of the election and during the subsequent four years, would take a higher road than we have seen from our liberal friends during George Bush's two terms in office. We have seen character assassination on a mass scale, accusations of "stolen elections", and a level of sheer, stark raving hatred on a level I have never witnessed for a single human being.


Again, are you serious... please. Like many of you here have taken the high road when many of you here are very guilty of character assassination on a mass scale. Case in point, look at all the threads about Obama, majority based on fear, rumors, lies, and malicious unwarranted attacks. Then again, why does it surprise me that you probably won't see the hypocrisy of what you wrote.

quote:

ORIGINAL: tafkam

Would it be too much to ask that we show ourselves to be made of stronger stuff, to operate on a slightly deeper level of discourse, and to accord the office of President the respect it deserves, even if it's not "our guy" in the Oval Office? The left has shown us vividly what it is made of the last eight years, so the standard shouldn't be very hard to surpass, but I would hope that we would conduct ourselves in a manner that is light years removed from the vitriol and anger we have seen so graphically displayed.


Yeah... ok... and like the extreme right hasn't shown everyone even the moderate conservatives in their party the same?


quote:

ORIGINAL: tafkam

I'm praying that there is still some civility and respect left in this country, and I hope that "my side" will be the ones to demonstrate it.


If that was the case, many on "your side" wouldn't have made many of the ignorant comments about "blacks running America" , "Obama's an Arab", "Obama's a Muslim", this part of America is where real Americans are, and all the other things that have been said and done by those on "your side"... yeah way for those on "your side" to show they still have some civility and respect left for others in this country.


Very classy.
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RE: To My Fellow Conservatives.... - 11/1/2008 1:53:44 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Longfingers1
If that was the case, many on "your side" wouldn't have made many of the ignorant comments about "blacks running America" , "Obama's an Arab", "Obama's a Muslim", this part of America is where real Americans are, and all the other things that have been said and done by those on "your side"... yeah way for those on "your side" to show they still have some civility and respect left for others in this country.


OK. So FIND the source of the charge that you make in the quote "blacks running America"

I wasn't able to find a SINGLE instance of that comment.

And, while you are at it FIND the source of the charge that you make in the quote "Obama's an Arab"

I wasn't able to find a SINGLE instance of that comment either.

As for comments that Obama's a Muslim it is UNDENIABLE that at least at SOME point in his life THIS WAS TRUE... having not ONE male parent that was Muslim; but, TWO!

I don't mind most of your nonsense. But, it's extremely foolish to make outrageous charges without realizing that we do have a search engine!

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RE: To My Fellow Conservatives.... - 11/1/2008 2:06:43 PM   
tafkam

 

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Longfingers (and anybody else who is apparently unable to read thread titles)...this thread is directed to conservatives.

If you wish to spew more of your liberal rhetoric, start a new thread.....

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RE: To My Fellow Conservatives.... - 11/1/2008 2:10:45 PM   
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quote:

I would vote for a Republican if I thought there was a good Republican running. I don't.


Why would a conservative lament the loss by a moderate? Wouldn't it make more sense if conservatives were to take back the party as opposed to allowing it to continually erode to the left?

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RE: To My Fellow Conservatives.... - 11/1/2008 2:30:27 PM   
Rockwall

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: tafkam

Despite polls showing some measure of last minute momentum for John McCain, I have serious doubts that he will be able to overcome Obama's lead, and I have resigned myself to the fact that we may very well wake up Nov 5th to the words "President elect Barack Hussein Obama".

If you're like me, you are not happy about this, and you are probably, and rightfully, concerned about the direction that Obama will take our nation. Granted, he may only be a one term President, but the damage he will do to this nation will take decades to undo.

However, I would hope that we as conservatives, during the aftermath of the election and during the subsequent four years, would take a higher road than we have seen from our liberal friends during George Bush's two terms in office. We have seen character assassination on a mass scale, accusations of "stolen elections", and a level of sheer, stark raving hatred on a level I have never witnessed for a single human being.

Would it be too much to ask that we show ourselves to be made of stronger stuff, to operate on a slightly deeper level of discourse, and to accord the office of President the respect it deserves, even if it's not "our guy" in the Oval Office? The left has shown us vividly what it is made of the last eight years, so the standard shouldn't be very hard to surpass, but I would hope that we would conduct ourselves in a manner that is light years removed from the vitriol and anger we have seen so graphically displayed.

I for one, will commit to acknowledge this man as "President Obama", and I will commit to pray for him, as I have for George Bush, and as I did for Bill Clinton. And I will correct anyone who dares to disrespect the office he holds.

Does that mean Obama will escape criticism? Of course not. But I think we can do better than bumper sticker slogans (remember "Bush Lied, Kids Died"), or comparing the President to a zoo animal, filthy takes on his last name, etc.....I think we can make our displeasure and disagreement known without descending to sixth grade playground language and juvenile barbs.

I'm praying that there is still some civility and respect left in this country, and I hope that "my side" will be the ones to demonstrate it.

What say you?


Agreed wholeheartedly, and this is not just pillow talk because I called President Clinton "President Clinton". Even though I didn't vote for him, I never claimed "he's not my president" like the libs have done with Bush.

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RE: To My Fellow Conservatives.... - 11/1/2008 2:38:34 PM   
stateofgrace


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quote:

ORIGINAL: tafkam

However, I would hope that we as conservatives, during the aftermath of the election and during the subsequent four years, would take a higher road than we have seen from our liberal friends during George Bush's two terms in office. We have seen character assassination on a mass scale, accusations of "stolen elections", and a level of sheer, stark raving hatred on a level I have never witnessed for a single human being.


You know...things have been especially bad in recent years, but they hated Regan too.

But I think you have a good point. No matter what other people do, as followers of Christ, we should chose to take the high road. That doesn't mean we will always be bubbly and sugar-sweet, but we can show our disagreent with issues without venting raving hatred.

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RE: To My Fellow Conservatives.... - 11/1/2008 2:40:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TMeeks


OK. So FIND the source of the charge that you make in the quote "blacks running America"

I wasn't able to find a SINGLE instance of that comment.

And, while you are at it FIND the source of the charge that you make in the quote "Obama's an Arab"

I wasn't able to find a SINGLE instance of that comment either.

As for comments that Obama's a Muslim it is UNDENIABLE that at least at SOME point in his life THIS WAS TRUE... having not ONE male parent that was Muslim; but, TWO!

I don't mind most of your nonsense. But, it's extremely foolish to make outrageous charges without realizing that we do have a search engine!


All these things were said like I stated by people on "your side", those who are for McCain/Palin: (these are things we've already discussed here, in the thread about the rallies...)

The woman who called Obama an Arab:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf6YKOkfFsE

The people on "your side" who say blacks will run America if Obama's elected:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRqcfqiXCX0


Again, I stand by what I said before, some of you all are nothing but hypocrites, and this thread and many others prove it. To say as the OP stated:

http://forums.crosswalk.com/pgdrewrite.aspx?404;http://forums.crosswalk.com:80/To_My_Fellow_Conservatives%%%%/m_3946743/mpage_1/tm.htm#
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RE: To My Fellow Conservatives.... - 11/1/2008 2:52:03 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Longfingers1

quote:

ORIGINAL: TMeeks


OK. So FIND the source of the charge that you make in the quote "blacks running America"

I wasn't able to find a SINGLE instance of that comment.

And, while you are at it FIND the source of the charge that you make in the quote "Obama's an Arab"

I wasn't able to find a SINGLE instance of that comment either.

As for comments that Obama's a Muslim it is UNDENIABLE that at least at SOME point in his life THIS WAS TRUE... having not ONE male parent that was Muslim; but, TWO!

I don't mind most of your nonsense. But, it's extremely foolish to make outrageous charges without realizing that we do have a search engine!


All these things were said like I stated by people on "your side", those who are for McCain/Palin: (these are things we've already discussed here, in the thread about the rallies...)

The woman who called Obama an Arab:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf6YKOkfFsE

The people on "your side" who say blacks will run America if Obama's elected:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRqcfqiXCX0


Again, I stand by what I said before, some of you all are nothing but hypocrites, and this thread and many others prove it. To say as the OP stated:

http://forums.crosswalk.com/pgdrewrite.aspx?404;http://forums.crosswalk.com:80/To_My_Fellow_Conservatives%%%%/m_3946743/mpage_1/tm.htm#

These are comments from individual citizens who have no public voice other than these YouTube clips. How can you possibly equate this with the McCain campaign? There are a lot of nuts out there on the Obama side too - that does not make them part of the campaign.

Do you have any clips from McCain supporters who actually have a public voice and a name we would all recognize?

It is interesting that one of the clips was from someone with the name "AlJazeeraEnglish". Based on that, is it ok for us to assume that Obama is supported by Aljazeera?
Yeah, real unbiased reporting there, Longfingers1.
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RE: To My Fellow Conservatives.... - 11/1/2008 2:59:16 PM   
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Again, I stand by what I said before, some of you all are nothing but hypocrites, and this thread and many others prove it.


You seem to be becoming what you espouse to dislike, Longfingers.

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RE: To My Fellow Conservatives.... - 11/1/2008 3:01:07 PM   
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Longfingers,

For the second time, this post is directed to CONSERVATIVES. Your posts are unwelcome and off topic, and as such a violation of TOS. If you wish to continue your nonsensical rants, either start another thread or post in a more appropriate thread.

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RE: To My Fellow Conservatives.... - 11/1/2008 3:06:34 PM   
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Myself, I will choose to ignore the sniping from the left that has been demonstrated above.

My efforts instead will be to resist the changes that are coming our way, resist them through the venues we as Americans have at our disposal. That will be through letting my elected officials know where I stand and that I expect them honor that stand and represent that stand.

It will also include my efforts to cause my party of choice - the GOP - to truly represent my conservative views. To that end it may mean that if they can or will not do that then they will know that it will leave me no other way to turn but to support another party of opposition, and I will commit to build that opposition party that can truly represent me.

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RE: To My Fellow Conservatives.... - 11/1/2008 3:07:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: tafkam

Longfingers,

For the second time, this post is directed to CONSERVATIVES. Your posts are unwelcome and off topic, and as such a violation of TOS. If you wish to continue your nonsensical rants, either start another thread or post in a more appropriate thread.

Hit the "Report" button Tafkam. Let the Mods deal with it.

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RE: To My Fellow Conservatives.... - 11/1/2008 3:31:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: tafkam

Longfingers (and anybody else who is apparently unable to read thread titles)...this thread is directed to conservatives.

If you wish to spew more of your liberal rhetoric, start a new thread.....


There have been threads here where it was directed towards one group or another and other people that weren't in the group that it was directed to made comments (take for a current example this thread: http://forums.crosswalk.com/When_the_Democrats_control_everything_%25%25%25/m_3946398/mpage_1/tm.htm#1 where the poster asked for Obama supporters to reply in, but those who aren't Obama supporters replied in it anyway... ). Hardly anyone made such a big deal about it. I'm sorry if there are some here who don't like what I've stated, but there are others here who like myself who don't like the false things some of you say and speak out about it... that's why it's a forum.

If anyone has anything else to address to me personally that's outside the realm on topic, then by all means you all can address me in a pm as the TOS states instead of on the forum.

Have a blessed day!

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RE: To My Fellow Conservatives.... - 11/1/2008 3:38:43 PM   
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The block button works really well too...

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RE: To My Fellow Conservatives.... - 11/1/2008 3:50:16 PM   
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RE: To My Fellow Conservatives.... - 11/1/2008 4:13:51 PM   
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It will also include my efforts to cause my party of choice - the GOP - to truly represent my conservative views. To that end it may mean that if they can or will not do that then they will know that it will leave me no other way to turn but to support another party of opposition, and I will commit to build that opposition party that can truly represent me.


Save me a place on that GOP bandwagon if it ever gets on the right course- which is quite simply the course way to the right that it is on now. : )

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However, I would hope that we as conservatives, during the aftermath of the election and during the subsequent four years, would take a higher road than we have seen from our liberal friends during George Bush's two terms in office. We have seen character assassination on a mass scale, accusations of "stolen elections", and a level of sheer, stark raving hatred on a level I have never witnessed for a single human being.


I would be very very VERY shocked if I ever seen from conservatives the kind of backlash against Obama that Dubya endured. Granted I have a great dislike of the current President but some of the things on the left went too far- specifically the stolen election. He won fair and square based on the laws of the nation and the laws of the jurisdiction in Florida that caused the controversy. As for Kerry no one stole anything from him not even the swift boat guys. Had their not been questions regarding his ability to lead, what those guys said would have had no place or impact.

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Despite polls showing some measure of last minute momentum for John McCain, I have serious doubts that he will be able to overcome Obama's lead, and I have resigned myself to the fact that we may very well wake up Nov 5th to the words "President elect Barack Hussein Obama".


There are still too many undecideds to give it up just yet. There are those who will vote Dem no matter what and there are those who will vote Rep no matter what. Speaking for myself I have never been able to vote against something just because I'm against it. I like to vote FOR something. I believe that many of the undecideds will see that there is more "for" McCain than there is "for" Obama. Remember about a year and a half ago I said I would vote for the Dem just to spite the Reps but I know I can't do it. The Dems don't stand for what I believe in at all even though the Reps are far less than what they were to me just 10 to 12 years ago. Even now when I look at the state of everything I am almost ready to believe that a McCain style centrist is probably better than a Reagan style conservative at this current time. Who knows I might just go for McCain when it's all said and done but I don't think I'm alone among those who are "straddling the fence" so to speak. Sure the odds favor Obama but I don't think it is as near a big of a mismatch as this last Super Bowl was and we know who won that one.

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RE: To My Fellow Conservatives.... - 11/1/2008 4:20:09 PM   
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Please conservatives let's not stoop to the levels of these sick individuals.

Wonkette Suggests Trig Wishes He'd Been Aborted

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RE: To My Fellow Conservatives.... - 11/1/2008 4:21:32 PM   
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Steph that is just sick. Of course you said that already.

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RE: To My Fellow Conservatives.... - 11/1/2008 4:25:48 PM   
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It's a good display of evil. I read the comments on the Wonkette site and there are a lot of people with hard hearts. God did say He would turn them over to their desires and they would have a depraved mind. IMO much of the unbridled hate and anger at Sarah Palin is because she had the audacity to give birth to Trig.

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