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RE: Worried a bit - 11/3/2008 10:33:16 PM
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manda59
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Oh I did ask the doctors and I made it very clear to them that I was breastfeeding, but I am not one to like to take any meds unless I have to, and I defiantly don't want to force my baby to have it through me, I will ask them, but I still am very reluctant to do it. I am sure I should be fine if I wait a little, maybe get a pump and pump for a few days so I can go on the meds and not have to worry about it.
Bee, please listen. It is NOT all right to wait for a few days. And besides, you would need to take the FULL COURSE of antibiotics, which is likely to be a week at least. You should not wait a week before starting the antibiotics.
Sorry to sound hard, but what use will you be to Ava if you get kidney failure? Or septicaemia? Because that is a real possibility if you don't take the antibiotics.
Just doublecheck with your doctor or the pharmacy about the antibiotics and breastfeeding. These are medical people, they will tell you the truth. Please don't continue to neglect your health - a kidney infection is SERIOUS and could be life-threatening if you don't help your body to fight it.
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RE: Worried a bit - 11/3/2008 10:46:10 PM
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Bee what did they send you home with?
You NEED to call the pharmacy and double check that it is safe to take while breastfeeding.
Kidney infections DO NOT go away with out medication.
YOU NEED TO TAKE THE ANTIBIOTICS or you may end up back in the hosp for treatment.
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RE: Worried a bit - 11/3/2008 10:50:21 PM
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Bee what did they send you home with?
You NEED to call the pharmacy and double check that it is safe to take while breastfeeding.
Kidney infections DO NOT go away with out medication.
YOU NEED TO TAKE THE ANTIBIOTICS or you may end up back in the hosp for treatment.
They sent me home with Levofloxacin and Ciprofloxacin.
It just gives me knots in my stomache to think that it may effect my daughter. I don't have any health problems so I was thinking if I just pump for a few days and then go on the antibiotics.
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RE: Worried a bit - 11/3/2008 10:54:53 PM
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Every moment you wait to start the antibiotics the infection grows.
Call the pharmacy to give yourself more peace of mind.
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RE: Worried a bit - 11/3/2008 10:57:03 PM
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Brandy
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A few days from now and you may be in the hosp.
I had a kidney infection but didn't realise it until I was on IV fluids and abs in the ER at 3 am. It's not something to mess with.
If I were you I would:
Call pharmacy and ask if ok to take abs.
Call pediatrician TONIGHT and talk to on call to see if ok
Call my doc TONIGHT and talk to on call to see if ok to take while nursing.
I don't understand your unwillingness to take a medication to HELP YOU get better so you can be a better mom to your daughter.
I understand caution but not to the extent you are.
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RE: Worried a bit - 11/3/2008 11:09:24 PM
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manda59
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A few days from now and you may be in the hosp.
I had a kidney infection but didn't realise it until I was on IV fluids and abs in the ER at 3 am. It's not something to mess with.
If I were you I would:
Call pharmacy and ask if ok to take abs.
Call pediatrician TONIGHT and talk to on call to see if ok
Call my doc TONIGHT and talk to on call to see if ok to take while nursing.
I don't understand your unwillingness to take a medication to HELP YOU get better so you can be a better mom to your daughter.
I understand caution but not to the extent you are.
Bee, Brandy's advice is good. Call the pharmacy, call the paediatrician, call your doctor. Or if you can't get them, call the hospital that prescribed them to you.
Double-check with all of them. PLEASE don't leave it, call someone tonight.
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RE: Worried a bit - 11/3/2008 11:20:43 PM
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manda59
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Bee
Without antibiotics, this is what you are risking:
Infection of other kidney (it can spread)
Abscess on the kidney
Sepsis (in other parts of your body as well as the kidneys)
Acute kidney failure
Honestly, Bee, if you're that concerned and won't listen to advice about doublechecking with a doctor so that you can take meds and breastfeed, in my opinion Ava would be better off if you took the anitbiotics you have been given, and gave her formula for a few days than if you didn't take any antibiotics. On antibiotics, you could be better in just a few days. Without antibiotics you could be back in ER in a couple of days on an IV, possibly even fighting for your life.
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RE: Worried a bit - 11/4/2008 1:07:43 AM
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Sorry to sound hard, but what use will you be to Ava if you get kidney failure? Or septicaemia? Because that is a real possibility if you don't take the antibiotics.
Actually I thought you were being rather soft on her, Manda.
Bea, you must take the antibiotics. Your doctor knows you are breastfeeding and he told you they are safe. You have a very serious condition, and it is extremely unwise to mess around with it by not taking taking the full course of treatment right away.
You're no good to your daughter if you're dead or in intensive care.
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RE: Worried a bit - 11/4/2008 1:53:06 AM
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Bee - I breastfed four babies. I am sure that at some point in the approx. five years that I was a nursing mom, I had to take some sort of medicine. My children are fine. They range in age from 15 to 23 and have no problems that would have been attributed to my taking meds while pregnant or nursing.
If you don't trust your pharmacist, doctor or your dd's ped., then it's time to find another doctor.
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RE: Worried a bit - 11/4/2008 9:15:37 AM
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Bee - I breastfed four babies. I am sure that at some point in the approx. five years that I was a nursing mom, I had to take some sort of medicine. My children are fine. They range in age from 15 to 23 and have no problems that would have been attributed to my taking meds while pregnant or nursing.
If you don't trust your pharmacist, doctor or your dd's ped., then it's time to find another doctor.
Or it's time to find another mother for your daughter because you'll be dead.
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RE: Worried a bit - 11/4/2008 9:41:31 AM
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Or it's time to find another mother for your daughter because you'll be dead.
Bee,
laura is telling it like it is. That is how serious your condition is.
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RE: Worried a bit - 11/4/2008 9:54:06 AM
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Do you honestly think that your milk is safer with infection raging through your system and kidney failure than it is with antibiotics? Antibiotics will not hurt your baby.
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RE: Worried a bit - 11/4/2008 10:13:54 AM
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They sent me home with Levofloxacin and Ciprofloxacin.
I checked both of those on safefetus.com. I don't think I'd take either of them while pregnant, but nursing I would. Actually, I think I have taken Cipro while nursing. I'm allergic to penicillin, so that limits what I can take.
You have to weigh the risks of antibiotics with the risks of not taking them. In the case of a kidney infection that has already gone on for days and days, clearly the risks of the antibiotic are less.
"Kidney failure" sounds like a much smaller problem than it is. I have seen firsthand the hard hard life of someone who has lived on dialysis for years. My cousin did, and then she finally got a kidney transplant and STILL has to be super careful about getting sick and will be on drugs that lower her immune system for the rest of her life.
Please don't mess around with this. Please. Your daughter needs you. I agree with Manda if you are that concerned about Ava having effects from the antibiotics, then pump and dump while you're on them, and give her formula. Formula is not poison and is in fact very useful in certain situations.
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RE: Worried a bit - 11/4/2008 1:45:03 PM
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Praying for you, Bee.
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RE: Worried a bit - 11/4/2008 2:48:33 PM
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I took all the advice and called my personal doctor this morning and the nearest pharmacy, they both said that it was fine and I should start taking the right away, and if i was very worried about breastfeeding still then to just give her formula (and as manda had recommend thanks). So I have started taking them.
Okay also to clear some things up, it's not that I am such a bad mother and I don't care about my health at all, or the safety of my daughter, I truly do! I love my daughter more then anything in this world and I just want what is best for her.
I was raised and told that herbal tea's and herbs can do just about the same as modern medicine, I have done that my entire and life anytime I have a cold or a flu or anything of the sort, it always helped, I was researching yesterday for organic and natural remedies that could help, so it's not like I just didn't care at all. I am only saying all this because I don't want anyone to misunderstand me and think that I am a bad mother because I was not doing what was in my best interest to take care of my daughter to the fullest of my capabilities , I just want to see all my options.
Thank you for all the advice, I really appreciate everyone caring so much. in the long run I do have to do what is best for me so I can take care of her.
Thanks Again.
B
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RE: Worried a bit - 11/4/2008 3:04:30 PM
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I took all the advice and called my personal doctor this morning and the nearest pharmacy, they both said that it was fine and I should start taking the right away, and if i was very worried about breastfeeding still then to just give her formula (and as manda had recommend thanks). So I have started taking them.
Okay also to clear some things up, it's not that I am such a bad mother and I don't care about my health at all, or the safety of my daughter, I truly do! I love my daughter more then anything in this world and I just want what is best for her.
I was raised and told that herbal tea's and herbs can do just about the same as modern medicine, I have done that my entire and life anytime I have a cold or a flu or anything of the sort, it always helped, I was researching yesterday for organic and natural remedies that could help, so it's not like I just didn't care at all. I am only saying all this because I don't want anyone to misunderstand me and think that I am a bad mother because I was not doing what was in my best interest to take care of my daughter to the fullest of my capabilities , I just want to see all my options.
Thank you for all the advice, I really appreciate everyone caring so much. in the long run I do have to do what is best for me so I can take care of her.
Thanks Again.
B
I didn't think you were a bad mother. Just an unreasonably anxious one. Also, please remember that many herbs and natural remedies can be harmful to nursing infants, more harmful than antibiotics.
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RE: Worried a bit - 11/4/2008 3:28:29 PM
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I took all the advice and called my personal doctor this morning and the nearest pharmacy, they both said that it was fine and I should start taking the right away, and if i was very worried about breastfeeding still then to just give her formula (and as manda had recommend thanks). So I have started taking them.
Okay also to clear some things up, it's not that I am such a bad mother and I don't care about my health at all, or the safety of my daughter, I truly do! I love my daughter more then anything in this world and I just want what is best for her.
I was raised and told that herbal tea's and herbs can do just about the same as modern medicine, I have done that my entire and life anytime I have a cold or a flu or anything of the sort, it always helped, I was researching yesterday for organic and natural remedies that could help, so it's not like I just didn't care at all. I am only saying all this because I don't want anyone to misunderstand me and think that I am a bad mother because I was not doing what was in my best interest to take care of my daughter to the fullest of my capabilities , I just want to see all my options.
Thank you for all the advice, I really appreciate everyone caring so much. in the long run I do have to do what is best for me so I can take care of her.
Thanks Again.
B
I didn't think you were a bad mother. Just an unreasonably anxious one. Also, please remember that many herbs and natural remedies can be harmful to nursing infants, more harmful than antibiotics.
it all depends on what natural remedies you use, like if you have a cold there are quite a few that are recommended while you are breastfeeding, that are much more healthy then say taking NyQuil or many other cold medicines.
Yes I am possible unreasonsonably anxious, but I just want to do whats best, and I don't think I realized how seriouse even a kidney infection can be.
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RE: Worried a bit - 11/4/2008 3:28:38 PM
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I didn't think you were a bad mother. Just an unreasonably anxious one. Also, please remember that many herbs and natural remedies can be harmful to nursing infants, more harmful than antibiotics.
I agree with this. We think you are a very loving and devoted mom, but it's possible you might've been biased against modern medicine by your upbringing, and we were hoping to reassure you and impress on you the seriousness of your condition. It's one thing to take herbal tea for a cold, quite another for a kidney infection.
I have the same fears and apprehensions you do about, only mine are about "natural" remedies, for they are unregulated, often untested, and like Laura said, can be far more dangerous then any pill a doctor might give you. Isn't it funny how people's perspectives on such matters can be so different?
Let me impress again, no one thought you were a bad mother. A bad mother wouldn't be as worried as you were/are about her daughter's safety even above her own. But while is it noble to be willing to die for your child, it just wasn't necessary in this case, and your little girl is much better off with a healthy mommy.
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RE: Worried a bit - 11/4/2008 3:29:07 PM
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I was raised and told that herbal tea's and herbs can do just about the same as modern medicine, I have done that my entire and life anytime I have a cold or a flu or anything of the sort, it always helped, I was researching yesterday for organic and natural remedies that could help, so it's not like I just didn't care at all. I am only saying all this because I don't want anyone to misunderstand me and think that I am a bad mother because I was not doing what was in my best interest to take care of my daughter to the fullest of my capabilities , I just want to see all my options.
I am also into herbal and homeopathic remedies - but they have their limit. And you have to be careful with herbs even because many of them have not been clinically tested either on adults or children/babies. Some herbs are also contraindicated for babies, and it is wise to be extremely cautious.
I used mostly homeopathic medicine on my children, not herbal (except chamomile tea), just to be on the safe side, in conjunction with "modern" medicine. I still reach for homeopathic remedies first, for certain things (like bumps/bruises, for eye problems, for cold sores) but also use conventional medicine if it is necessary.
I'm glad you started taking the antibiotics - it would be an idea to be taking some acidophilus too, to counter any risk of thrush (yeast infection, as you call it)
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RE: Worried a bit - 11/4/2008 3:41:11 PM
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ORIGINAL: BeeLuvsAva
I was raised and told that herbal tea's and herbs can do just about the same as modern medicine, I have done that my entire and life anytime I have a cold or a flu or anything of the sort, it always helped, I was researching yesterday for organic and natural remedies that could help, so it's not like I just didn't care at all. I am only saying all this because I don't want anyone to misunderstand me and think that I am a bad mother because I was not doing what was in my best interest to take care of my daughter to the fullest of my capabilities , I just want to see all my options.
I am also into herbal and homeopathic remedies - but they have their limit. And you have to be careful with herbs even because many of them have not been clinically tested either on adults or children/babies. Some herbs are also contraindicated for babies, and it is wise to be extremely cautious.
I used mostly homeopathic medicine on my children, not herbal (except chamomile tea), just to be on the safe side, in conjunction with "modern" medicine. I still reach for homeopathic remedies first, for certain things (like bumps/bruises, for eye problems, for cold sores) but also use conventional medicine if it is necessary.
I'm glad you started taking the antibiotics - it would be an idea to be taking some acidophilus too, to counter any risk of thrush (yeast infection, as you call it)
I understand to be very care full with herbs, and any other natural remedies, but it was just the way I was raised, my family had always taught me to be VERY cautious about taking any "modern medicine" and almost implied that it was a sin, it is just something that was grilled into my head when I was young, I am not like them to the same degree, only at times.
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I must have looked just horrible holding my little girl and crying 
, but I was really scared. Geez now I feel like a complete idiot, but they were all sooo nice. 
I guess that is what happens when you are a new mom.
