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RE: Southern Gospel and Politics - 11/4/2008 3:33:10 PM
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JoeyWest
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Kerr you are right. the big country stars 20k wouldnt pay the salaries the crew and band get per show. it isnt just a couple guys working setting up the shows. many times they have another whole concert being set up while the one in town a is being done((concert)). they are not the same as a SG group. I saw the hoppers in January and the members of the Church helped them set up and take the stuff down.
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RE: Southern Gospel and Politics - 11/9/2008 7:36:37 PM
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I hope that the fairness doctrine doesn't affect southern gospel radio. I'd hate to have to hear 12 hrs a day of Muslim music. Just kidding really, I think its only a conservative talk / liberal talk deal, not a music thing. But, I wouldn't put it past the liberal gov't to say that Christian music is not just music but a world view, and try to get it so that if you play x number of hours of christian music then you have to play x amount of another religions music.
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RE: Southern Gospel and Politics - 11/9/2008 8:18:58 PM
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This is an interesting thread to someone who is learning about the inside baseball aspects of SG.
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But they have a live band
A live band would draw a bigger audience.
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The important piece is that Southern Gospel artists need to be operating their group as a business. Point out any successful artist in Southern Gospel music and I can guarantee they understand the importance of taking care of business (literally).
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I know some people that went last week to see Carrie Underwood and payed $65.00 a ticket and bought (2) $30.00 Tshirts. Now I have heard these same people talk about a southern gospel artist Tshirts being $15.00 and probably drop $20.00 in the love offering plate.
The lack of good business practices is hurting the business. And a good business practice is to not sell your product too cheap.
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Kerr you are right. the big country stars 20k wouldnt pay the salaries the crew and band get per show. it isnt just a couple guys working setting up the shows. many times they have another whole concert being set up while the one in town a is being done((concert)). they are not the same as a SG group. I saw the hoppers in January and the members of the Church helped them set up and take the stuff down.
As I was coming home from work Friday, I drove past the local civic center that was the site of a country concert. The artist ( and I can't remember who it was) had 2 buses and 2 semis for his gear and people.
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RE: Southern Gospel and Politics - 11/9/2008 8:53:35 PM
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As I was coming home from work Friday, I drove past the local civic center that was the site of a country concert. The artist ( and I can't remember who it was) had 2 buses and 2 semis for his gear and people.
A Gaither Homecoming concert has a whole fleet.
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RE: Southern Gospel and Politics - 11/9/2008 8:54:51 PM
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As I was coming home from work Friday, I drove past the local civic center that was the site of a country concert. The artist ( and I can't remember who it was) had 2 buses and 2 semis for his gear and people.
A Gaither Homecoming concert has a whole fleet.
They get $35.00 and up for tickets to their concerts.
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RE: Southern Gospel and Politics - 11/9/2008 8:56:51 PM
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A Gaither Homecoming concert has a whole fleet.
From what I am able to observe Bill Gaither knows how to market his concerts. And how many groups are in a Gaither Homecoming?
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RE: Southern Gospel and Politics - 11/9/2008 8:58:31 PM
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As I was coming home from work Friday, I drove past the local civic center that was the site of a country concert. The artist ( and I can't remember who it was) had 2 buses and 2 semis for his gear and people.
A Gaither Homecoming concert has a whole fleet.
They get $35.00 and up for tickets to their concerts.
they have a whole group of trucks and employees at the next venue country artists and rock artists setting up. go to a country concert or a rock concert and find a tshirt under 75 bucks and look at how many are sold. if half of the audience buys one. just one. thats around 75k in tshirts alone
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RE: Southern Gospel and Politics - 11/9/2008 8:59:48 PM
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A Gaither Homecoming concert has a whole fleet.
From what I am able to observe Bill Gaither knows how to market his concerts. And how many groups are in a Gaither Homecoming?
The last one I went to GVB and SS sang 3/4 of the time. What few others he had there only got to sing 2 to 3 songs. He doesn't have as many groups at his concerts as he used to.
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RE: Southern Gospel and Politics - 11/9/2008 9:06:38 PM
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I heard he was downsizing.
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RE: Southern Gospel and Politics - 11/9/2008 9:39:55 PM
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A Gaither Homecoming concert has a whole fleet.
From what I am able to observe Bill Gaither knows how to market his concerts. And how many groups are in a Gaither Homecoming?
It used to be more, maybe 5 groups that would be headliners elsewhere. Go back maybe 5 years, and you would have had Gaither Vocal Band, Old Friends Quartet, Hoppers, Booth Brothers, Isaacs, maybe another group or two, and 3-5 solists.
Now, the Gaither Vocal Band and Signature Sound are at every date, the Isaacs are there frequently, and a couple of solists (Ivan Parker, Janet Paschal, maybe Lynda Randle and Mark Lowry on certain dates). At a "big date," he'll still have the Hoppers, Booth Brothers, and Isaacs in, and now the Collingsworth Family, too. But it is downsized from what it used to be.
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RE: Southern Gospel and Politics - 11/9/2008 10:45:56 PM
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A Gaither Homecoming concert has a whole fleet.
From what I am able to observe Bill Gaither knows how to market his concerts. And how many groups are in a Gaither Homecoming?
It used to be more, maybe 5 groups that would be headliners elsewhere. Go back maybe 5 years, and you would have had Gaither Vocal Band, Old Friends Quartet, Hoppers, Booth Brothers, Isaacs, maybe another group or two, and 3-5 solists.
Now, the Gaither Vocal Band and Signature Sound are at every date, the Isaacs are there frequently, and a couple of solists (Ivan Parker, Janet Paschal, maybe Lynda Randle and Mark Lowry on certain dates). At a "big date," he'll still have the Hoppers, Booth Brothers, and Isaacs in, and now the Collingsworth Family, too. But it is downsized from what it used to be.
I am assuming that all this is done in a 2 to 3 hour performance. I can see where a top group would want to do more than 2 to 3 songs. And they could make more money in a concert with fewer groups.
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RE: Southern Gospel and Politics - 11/10/2008 6:46:49 AM
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A Gaither Homecoming concert has a whole fleet.
From what I am able to observe Bill Gaither knows how to market his concerts. And how many groups are in a Gaither Homecoming?
It used to be more, maybe 5 groups that would be headliners elsewhere. Go back maybe 5 years, and you would have had Gaither Vocal Band, Old Friends Quartet, Hoppers, Booth Brothers, Isaacs, maybe another group or two, and 3-5 solists.
Now, the Gaither Vocal Band and Signature Sound are at every date, the Isaacs are there frequently, and a couple of solists (Ivan Parker, Janet Paschal, maybe Lynda Randle and Mark Lowry on certain dates). At a "big date," he'll still have the Hoppers, Booth Brothers, and Isaacs in, and now the Collingsworth Family, too. But it is downsized from what it used to be.
I am assuming that all this is done in a 2 to 3 hour performance. I can see where a top group would want to do more than 2 to 3 songs. And they could make more money in a concert with fewer groups.
Nope. It's more like 4 or 4-1/2 hours when you go to a Homecoming shindig. With fewer artists being on the program, you get to hear more from each of them. I haven't seen them with the Collingsworths yet.
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RE: Southern Gospel and Politics - 11/11/2008 4:47:45 PM
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How does he choose? I would consider GV and L5 at the same level of quality and popularity as the Booths Bros.
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RE: Southern Gospel and Politics - 11/11/2008 6:11:42 PM
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danielmount
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He doesn't choose entirely based on popularity. He chooses with an eye to his live programs: Does the artist bring something that fills a specific spot on the program?
For example, I doubt he'd bring another family bluegrass group on as long as the Isaacs are on the tour. And I doubt he'd bring another high-energy male quartet on as long as EHSS is there.
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