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RE: Obama and Wright: He Never Complained Once - 11/3/2008 1:01:13 PM
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IMA_CHRISTIAN
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Watch this ad & post your thoughts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3IAjphhw6E
We need McCain-Palin.
oh thats that recent ad. I saw it on tv.
A little known fact - it cost approx $2 million.
obama's commercial last week cost approx $3 million.
Where are the screamers complaining about the high cost of mccain's ad, I only hear screamers from the mccain team complaining that obama's ad was a financial disgrace, i.e. he could have used that money to feed the poor.
but its ok for mccain to spend $2 million on an ad!
I betcha you did not know the cost of that ad!
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RE: Obama and Wright: He Never Complained Once - 11/3/2008 1:09:48 PM
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IMA_CHRISTIAN
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i do find it hard to beleve that obama was that uninformed and clueless for 20 years. i watched wright just a few times and was able to make an opinion about what kind of "gospel" he is preaching. Whatever is in the heart comes out the mouth. if obama was never there during the times wright said a particular thing, no matter, it will come out sooner or later within 20 years.
When politicians say "i didn't know" that usually means they did.
our Mayor Daley has a habit of saying such things and we know it is baloney.
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RE: Obama and Wright: He Never Complained Once - 11/3/2008 1:10:40 PM
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And your point is?
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ORIGINAL: enterprise1701
Watch this ad & post your thoughts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3IAjphhw6E
We need McCain-Palin.
oh thats that recent ad. I saw it on tv.
A little known fact - it cost approx $2 million.
obama's commercial last week cost approx $3 million.
Where are the screamers complaining about the high cost of mccain's ad, I only hear screamers from the mccain team complaining that obama's ad was a financial disgrace, i.e. he could have used that money to feed the poor.
but its ok for mccain to spend $2 million on an ad!
I betcha you did not know the cost of that ad!
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RE: Obama and Wright: He Never Complained Once - 11/3/2008 1:13:17 PM
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IMA_CHRISTIAN
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And your point is?
I betcha you did not know the cost of that ad!
oh the other day peopel were moaning and complaining about how obama spent all that money on an ad and blah blah blah how they said that money was excessive and how it could have been spent on food for the poor.
I'm pointing out the price of that ad, which actually surprised me that it costs that much.
I suppose maybe i should have put my comment on the topic about obama's commercial, but oh well. my bad.
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RE: Obama and Wright: He Never Complained Once - 11/3/2008 1:16:12 PM
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It's a great ad, but no one (hardly anyone at this late hour) is going to be affected by it. The country has become so polarized that if Obama was positively linked to having planned the 9-11 terrorism, the left wouldn't care and would vote for him anyway.
DISCLAIMER: I don't think Obama was in on the 9-11 massacre.
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RE: Obama and Wright: He Never Complained Once - 11/3/2008 1:19:16 PM
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Just read the comments below the video on the youtube page and it demonstrate profoundly that the Obamabots DO NOT CARE about this....
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RE: Obama and Wright: He Never Complained Once - 11/3/2008 1:38:13 PM
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IMA_CHRISTIAN
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well i actually thought it was a well -produced ad.
especially how they showed the crazed look of jeremiah wright.
coz he is cwwwaaaaazeeeeee as can be.
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RE: Obama and Wright: He Never Complained Once - 11/3/2008 1:41:16 PM
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ORIGINAL: enterprise1701
Watch this ad & post your thoughts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3IAjphhw6E
We need McCain-Palin.
oh thats that recent ad. I saw it on tv.
A little known fact - it cost approx $2 million.
obama's commercial last week cost approx $3 million.
Where are the screamers complaining about the high cost of mccain's ad, I only hear screamers from the mccain team complaining that obama's ad was a financial disgrace, i.e. he could have used that money to feed the poor.
but its ok for mccain to spend $2 million on an ad!
I betcha you did not know the cost of that ad!
Could it be because Obama lied and broke his promise about not accepting public financing?
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RE: Obama and Wright: He Never Complained Once - 11/4/2008 12:51:56 PM
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IMA_CHRISTIAN
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ORIGINAL: enterprise1701
Watch this ad & post your thoughts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3IAjphhw6E
We need McCain-Palin.
oh thats that recent ad. I saw it on tv.
A little known fact - it cost approx $2 million.
obama's commercial last week cost approx $3 million.
Where are the screamers complaining about the high cost of mccain's ad, I only hear screamers from the mccain team complaining that obama's ad was a financial disgrace, i.e. he could have used that money to feed the poor.
but its ok for mccain to spend $2 million on an ad!
I betcha you did not know the cost of that ad!
Could it be because Obama lied and broke his promise about not accepting public financing?
is it ok if he just changed his mind when he realized he could not work with the first idea
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RE: Obama and Wright: He Never Complained Once - 11/4/2008 1:05:40 PM
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well i actually thought it was a well -produced ad.
especially how they showed the crazed look of jeremiah wright.
coz he is cwwwaaaaazeeeeee as can be.
Is your medication off today, IMA? You seem to be all over the place today.
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RE: Obama and Wright: He Never Complained Once - 11/4/2008 1:10:20 PM
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IMA_CHRISTIAN
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well i actually thought it was a well -produced ad.
especially how they showed the crazed look of jeremiah wright.
coz he is cwwwaaaaazeeeeee as can be.
Is your medication off today, IMA? You seem to be all over the place today.
hi- LOL... :) i just try to be the voice of reason (as i have stated earlier).. I dont understand what the ruckus us about this thing about not taking public financing.
OK do you think its ok for someone to change thier mind without calling them a liar? especially if they didn't think it thru the first time, when they get into the project, they realize they needed to change the fiancials.
OK i just dont understand, this is how i interpret it. ((and i am not sticking up for obama, i'd do this same rationale with mccain too)).
by the way, Im a poker-of-fun at whomever i see is absurd.
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RE: Obama and Wright: He Never Complained Once - 11/4/2008 1:15:03 PM
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OK do you think its ok for someone to change thier mind without calling them a liar? especially if they didn't think it thru the first time, when they get into the project, they realize they needed to change the fiancials.
The bible speaks of keeping your word even if you suffer for it... So no, it's not ok...
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RE: Obama and Wright: He Never Complained Once - 11/4/2008 1:42:09 PM
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OK do you think its ok for someone to change thier mind without calling them a liar? especially if they didn't think it thru the first time, when they get into the project, they realize they needed to change the fiancials.
The bible speaks of keeping your word even if you suffer for it... So no, it's not ok...
yes but even i do that sometimes - change my mind.. and im not lying. dont you ever change your mind about something when you get into new facts? You can also realize you made a mistake and with new info you do the better thing. i.e. lets say Monday i want to cook chicken. then Tuesday I find out i have no money for chicken, so i change my mind and decide to cook tacos. So does that mean I lied, or just changed my mind? or... lets say you are coming over to a freinds house on Monday,, then Tuesday you get the flu. Now, are you stuck going infecting your friend because you originally promised them you would come over?
now those might be silly examples, in other cases you do need to keep your word, i.e. if you promised someone you were coming for a visit but you found out next day you wanted to do something else, but now you lie and say you got sick.. now THAT is lying and would be unethical.
but changing your mind based on new info is not lying. it means you made a mistake or you have new info that would make a better choice.
i wont even get into the bible where God makes a conditiional promise, and then shows mercy and "changes his mind" thought its not really, his first promise was conditional.
anyway whats the facts about him taking public financing? i dont quite get what actually happened.. maybe thats why i dont understand whats the deal.
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RE: Obama and Wright: He Never Complained Once - 11/4/2008 2:18:18 PM
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Could it be because Obama lied and broke his promise about not accepting public financing?
is it ok if he just changed his mind when he realized he could not work with the first idea
No it's not. It's a character flaw for a leader.
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RE: Obama and Wright: He Never Complained Once - 11/4/2008 2:18:53 PM
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Because he pledged one thing and did another, which is quite a bit different than deciding between chicken and tacos. It speaks to his core character (or lack thereof).
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RE: Obama and Wright: He Never Complained Once - 11/4/2008 2:19:06 PM
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but changing your mind based on new info is not lying. it means you made a mistake or you have new info that would make a better choice.
Again, the bible is clear that keeping one's word is more important than going back on it because things are no longer in your favor.
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i wont even get into the bible where God makes a conditiional promise, and then shows mercy and "changes his mind" thought its not really, his first promise was conditional.
If one repents they don't get punished... That not God changing His mind... If he punished those who repent that would be changing His mind...
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RE: Obama and Wright: He Never Complained Once - 11/4/2008 2:21:42 PM
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well then guys i just dont have all the facts about the whole situation. what happened and whats the story, from the beginning, or maybe i should just check the internet?
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RE: Obama and Wright: He Never Complained Once - 11/4/2008 3:41:18 PM
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Watch this ad & post your thoughts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3IAjphhw6E
We need McCain-Palin.
Snooze.... more of the same Swift-Boating stuff. This has been discussed ad-nauseum and dismissed.
How do they know "he never complained" to Rev Wright? That he never complained to the elders? How did they know he even heard this stuff from the pulpit? How do they know? They don't, and so the producers of that 'piece' are passing off something they don't know, as a fact.
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RE: Obama and Wright: He Never Complained Once - 11/4/2008 3:49:14 PM
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How do they know "he never complained" to Rev Wright? That he never complained to the elders? How did they know he even heard this stuff from the pulpit? How do they know? They don't, and so the producers of that 'piece' are passing off something they don't know, as a fact.
Hi Ayani - if i ever had to go to court, I would wish you to be on the jury for me, as you are reasonable and willing to NOT jump to conclusions.
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RE: Obama and Wright: He Never Complained Once - 11/4/2008 3:52:35 PM
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Watch this ad & post your thoughts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3IAjphhw6E
We need McCain-Palin.
Snooze.... more of the same Swift-Boating stuff. This has been discussed ad-nauseum and dismissed.
How do they know "he never complained" to Rev Wright? That he never complained to the elders? How did they know he even heard this stuff from the pulpit? How do they know? They don't, and so the producers of that 'piece' are passing off something they don't know, as a fact.
Well, if Obama ever did complain then he's definitely a liar! Because he's claimed to have never heard Wright's hate-filled rants from the pulpit during the 20 years he was a member.
So, which is it?
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RE: Obama and Wright: He Never Complained Once - 11/4/2008 4:27:15 PM
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The problem is its a little too late. Clinton was the one who rocked him with the ties to Ayers and Wright. McCain didn't use it against him and the Republican group that sponsored this add waited WAAAY TOO LATE to bring this up. It would have been better a month ago.
Obama was baptized and married by the guy. When all this first came out, he dismissed it as a family member who you love but disagree with. He didn't disown him until Wright threw him under the bus as saying things fitting for a politician.
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