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RE: What Next for McCain/Palin after '08 Elections? - 11/5/2008 1:13:43 PM   
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Namely, that your reasoning seems to be based purely on hate and nothing else of substance. Your caustic ridicule which is neither expedient, accurate, funny, or Biblical benefits no one. You are entitled to your insipid opinion though it bares no resemblance to anything in reality or relevance to reality. You even managed to put in an awkard sexist jab with your last incongruous comparison. If you are aiming at the preposterous, you have hit the bullseye.

You know a lot of big words. I'm sure you did much better than me in college.
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RE: What Next for McCain/Palin after '08 Elections? - 11/5/2008 1:15:50 PM   
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I'm not 100% sure what's next for Senator McCain or Gov. Palin, but I'll lay odds that Ekserekseez will disappear from these forums pretty soon, along with the rest of his fellow Obama secret operatives


You're funny! I voted for Barr because I think that McCain is a socialist. And I won't disappear from the forums, just this one, as I go back for help from the home school crowd while I deal with my crazy sister (who voted for Nader, but she's the family liberal).
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RE: What Next for McCain/Palin after '08 Elections? - 11/5/2008 1:18:07 PM   
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The Republican Party will have to make a lot of internal changes before they would be considered for election again on the Presidential platform. First thing the Republican party needs to do is disown Karl Rove. Rove did more to damage the Republican Party than anybody else. His "manipulations" behind the scenes, which included the instilling of fear and causing divisions within the Party (remember his assertions about John McCain's adopted daughter from Bangladesh during the '04 GOP competition?).

Palin was another Rove-trained neo-con, and her presence in the 2012 elections would damage the party further. I say let Huckabee and Romney run in '12.
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RE: What Next for McCain/Palin after '08 Elections? - 11/5/2008 1:32:52 PM   
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It's Interesting how your reasoning can equate a governor who had a state record approval rating with an out of the closet homosexual comedian and the wife of a heavy metal rocker.


I'll take the heavy metal rocker wife any day.


Are you talking about as for your preference in women or being elected to the highest office in the country?
I can't tell.

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We'll see how Palin goes forward. I don't believe we've heard the last of her. I expect her to make some of the talk tv rounds or do some columns and such. She came onto the scene so fast it was crazy now she needs to build up a better set of credentials.


Don't look for her on Oprah's show, that lady seems to be prejudiced against white conservative successful women and biased towards eloquent blackmen with O's on their names.

Do mean more credentials like all the ones Obama has?

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As for my opinion I believe she was overhyped by her supporters and overly stomped on by her detractors. McCain gave her a chance to hit the big time in politics and I'm interesting to see how she'll go with it.


I'm very interested as well.
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RE: What Next for McCain/Palin after '08 Elections? - 11/5/2008 1:35:26 PM   
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Namely, that your reasoning seems to be based purely on hate and nothing else of substance. Your caustic ridicule which is neither expedient, accurate, funny, or Biblical benefits no one. You are entitled to your insipid opinion though it bares no resemblance to anything in reality or relevance to reality. You even managed to put in an awkard sexist jab with your last incongruous comparison. If you are aiming at the preposterous, you have hit the bullseye.

You know a lot of big words. I'm sure you did much better than me in college.


Yes , most likely I did. And it's "better than I".
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RE: What Next for McCain/Palin after '08 Elections? - 11/5/2008 2:01:38 PM   
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Yes , most likely I did. And it's "better than I".


You're right, and I don't usually confuse the nominative and accusative case. Thanks for pointing it out.

And I don't hate Palin, I just think she's a overblown piece of work whose ambition unfortunately exceeds her abilities. I come from a crazy freak show dysfunctional family myself, so I find hers amusing.
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RE: What Next for McCain/Palin after '08 Elections? - 11/5/2008 2:05:30 PM   
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And I don't hate Palin, I just think she's a overblown piece of work whose ambition unfortunately exceeds her abilities. I come from a crazy freak show dysfunctional family myself, so I find hers amusing.


I know you aren't particularly fond of children, but other than the fact her daughter got pregnant, her family is hardly a 'freak show' or in any way notably dysfunctional.

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RE: What Next for McCain/Palin after '08 Elections? - 11/5/2008 2:06:44 PM   
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I think all the candidates and families will prolly settle down to some nice rest and sleep and spending time with their families.

then go back to their jobs as usual.

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RE: What Next for McCain/Palin after '08 Elections? - 11/5/2008 2:12:11 PM   
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I know you aren't particularly fond of children, but other than the fact her daughter got pregnant, her family is hardly a 'freak show' or in any way notably dysfunctional.


I like my nephew, he's pretty cool. And there's actually a good bit out there about clan Palin, and not all from the nutjob liberal bloggers.
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RE: What Next for McCain/Palin after '08 Elections? - 11/5/2008 2:40:44 PM   
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I know you aren't particularly fond of children, but other than the fact her daughter got pregnant, her family is hardly a 'freak show' or in any way notably dysfunctional.


I like my nephew, he's pretty cool. And there's actually a good bit out there about clan Palin, and not all from the nutjob liberal bloggers.


she is no Betty Davis from "What Ever Happened to Baby jane'

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RE: What Next for McCain/Palin after '08 Elections? - 11/5/2008 3:03:51 PM   
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Palin and her freak show family will probably end up on reality TV. I bet Levi Johnston is relieved; no reason to for the shotgun wedding now.


I'll think about that as I see Oprah Winfrey, the lib media queen, swooning over Obaama and his wife and daughters in the months to come. I guess that would make Oprah his surrogate queen in lieu of Michelle. Palin will pale in comparison to that, pun intended.

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RE: What Next for McCain/Palin after '08 Elections? - 11/5/2008 3:41:39 PM   
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I'll think about that as I see Oprah Winfrey, the lib media queen, swooning over Obaama and his wife and daughters in the months to come. I guess that would make Oprah his surrogate queen in lieu of Michelle. Palin will pale in comparison to that, pun intended.


I wouldn't know; never seen Oprah. She's a little too hefty and lefty for my taste. And Ms Obama has the usual radical socialist politics of a Democrat, but she is a sharp dresser.

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RE: What Next for McCain/Palin after '08 Elections? - 11/5/2008 3:53:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Jhud

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And I don't hate Palin, I just think she's a overblown piece of work whose ambition unfortunately exceeds her abilities. I come from a crazy freak show dysfunctional family myself, so I find hers amusing.


I know you aren't particularly fond of children, but other than the fact her daughter got pregnant, her family is hardly a 'freak show' or in any way notably dysfunctional.


Couldn't resist a "parting shot"

"Wasilla hillbillies looting Neiman Marcus from coast to coast"

I'd call this a bit of rogue behavior.
It could be argued that from maverick to rogue to dysfunctional is a short trip in the Republican party nowadays.
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RE: What Next for McCain/Palin after '08 Elections? - 11/5/2008 4:00:20 PM   
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on that article you quoted, i went to page 2 - these two blurbs caught my attention - how telling they are -

"The Obama campaign was provided with reports from the Secret Service showing a sharp and disturbing increase in threats to Obama in September and early October, at the same time that many crowds at Palin rallies became more frenzied. Michelle Obama was shaken by the vituperative crowds and the hot rhetoric from the GOP candidates. "Why would they try to make people hate us?" Michelle asked a top campaign aide."

that is so downright awful...

and re Hillary - she will do just about anything to keep her job -

"On the night she officially lost the Democratic nomination, Hillary Clinton enjoyed a long and friendly phone conversation with McCain. Clinton was actually on better terms with McCain than she was with Obama. Clinton and McCain had downed shots together on Senate junkets; they regarded each other as grizzled veterans of the political wars and shared a certain disdain for Obama as flashy and callow."

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RE: What Next for McCain/Palin after '08 Elections? - 11/5/2008 4:16:24 PM   
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I know you aren't particularly fond of children, but other than the fact her daughter got pregnant, her family is hardly a 'freak show' or in any way notably dysfunctional.

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her family is hardly a 'freak show' or in any way notably dysfunctional.


Of course not. But as usual, that is how the lib media has spun it through the entire campaign. If Sarah was part of the lib N.O.W. clan, their spiel would have been a whole lot different. I wonder how much longer these people can continue to hang on to Sarah for their pathetic slap stick routine. The Three Stooges were good at it. They aren't.

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RE: What Next for McCain/Palin after '08 Elections? - 11/5/2008 6:06:44 PM   
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Couldn't resist a "parting shot"

"Wasilla hillbillies looting Neiman Marcus from coast to coast"

I'd call this a bit of rogue behavior.
It could be argued that from maverick to rogue to dysfunctional is a short trip in the Republican party nowadays.


It comforts me to know it is a parting one; now all the operatives can return to holes from whence they came.

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RE: What Next for McCain/Palin after '08 Elections? - 11/5/2008 6:07:58 PM   
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I like my nephew, he's pretty cool. And there's actually a good bit out there about clan Palin, and not all from the nutjob liberal bloggers.


Yes, I am sure there is some out there from nutjob conservative bloggers as well.

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RE: What Next for McCain/Palin after '08 Elections? - 11/5/2008 6:27:35 PM   
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If the Republican Party grooms her and gives her a little polish (I make her sound like a car. lol), she'll be a star for the Party.


The Republican Party that just got its backside handed to it? McCain didn't lose because he campaigned as McCain; McCain lost because he campaigned a lot like a stereotypical Republican - a type of politician that most of America is, quite clearly, tired of dealing with.

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RE: What Next for McCain/Palin after '08 Elections? - 11/5/2008 6:33:29 PM   
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The Republican Party that just got its backside handed to it? McCain didn't lose because he campaigned as McCain; McCain lost because he campaigned a lot like a stereotypical Republican - a type of politician that most of America is, quite clearly, tired of dealing with.


Yes....until his concession speech last night, I thought he had lost his soul...

I hope he stays around for another term or two in the Senate...though after what he has just been through, he probably should just grab a fishing pole and head to one of Arizona's beautiful lakes.
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RE: What Next for McCain/Palin after '08 Elections? - 11/5/2008 6:45:51 PM   
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The Republican Party that just got its backside handed to it? McCain didn't lose because he campaigned as McCain; McCain lost because he campaigned a lot like a stereotypical Republican - a type of politician that most of America is, quite clearly, tired of dealing with.


Yes....until his concession speech last night, I thought he had lost his soul...

I hope he stays around for another term or two in the Senate...though after what he has just been through, he probably should just grab a fishing pole and head to one of Arizona's beautiful lakes.


With McCain, I think it's hard to predict. He's old on one hand, but also such a fighter. I could easily see him continuing to seve in the Senate until old age, but I could also see him retiring and/or being less involved in politics to spend time with the family. ...It'll be interesting to see though.
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RE: What Next for McCain/Palin after '08 Elections? - 11/5/2008 6:52:40 PM   
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With Palin, I think she'll have a large following and the popularity will continue, as will the rise in her critics. I think she was sort of exposed in some areas that rubbed people the wrong way. The two critques I personally agreed with were: 1.) She was not very knowledgeable on many areas of politics and unable to articulate her viewpoints and logic well when not reading from a script. 2.) She seems less genuine than her introduction at the RNC...she seems highly ambitious and a great performer without the depth of knowledge and outstanding character as assumed earlier. (Sometimes I sense arrogance/pride in her.)

I think Palin's tangible pros, however, still outweigh her cons and that the public will still see more of her in action and take her as a fresh breath away from the old-boy politics of Washington (selling yourself to highest special interest bidder) as she gains more experience. I think she'll continue to show reform in her areas of expertise and also gain more epxerience in areas of "weakness." (It's funny that I see her and Obama as highly similar in terms of their potential, ambition, and mass appeal).
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RE: What Next for McCain/Palin after '08 Elections? - 11/5/2008 8:23:39 PM   
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Palin and her freak show family will probably end up on reality TV. I bet Levi Johnston is relieved; no reason to for the shotgun wedding now.


It has been this level of bigotry and hatred that I have seen reflecting from not only the US media, but in our own media during the course of this US election campaign. It appears that Palin had received the malicious side of Obama supporters and the left wing in general.

What concerns me is that this bigotry and hatred has been an element that has helped Obama win presidency.

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RE: What Next for McCain/Palin after '08 Elections? - 11/5/2008 8:38:59 PM   
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With Palin, I think she'll have a large following and the popularity will continue, as will the rise in her critics. I think she was sort of exposed in some areas that rubbed people the wrong way. The two critques I personally agreed with were: 1.) She was not very knowledgeable on many areas of politics and unable to articulate her viewpoints and logic well when not reading from a script. 2.) She seems less genuine than her introduction at the RNC...she seems highly ambitious and a great performer without the depth of knowledge and outstanding character as assumed earlier. (Sometimes I sense arrogance/pride in her.)

I think Palin's tangible pros, however, still outweigh her cons and that the public will still see more of her in action and take her as a fresh breath away from the old-boy politics of Washington (selling yourself to highest special interest bidder) as she gains more experience. I think she'll continue to show reform in her areas of expertise and also gain more epxerience in areas of "weakness." (It's funny that I see her and Obama as highly similar in terms of their potential, ambition, and mass appeal).


Palin strikes me as a big fish in a small pond. If she sticks to Alaska politics she'll probably do fine, but I don't see her being able to hang on a national stage any time soon. Given how strongly she was rejected by everybody but the hardline Republican base, I wouldn't be surprised if the party shunned her, too.

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RE: What Next for McCain/Palin after '08 Elections? - 11/5/2008 8:45:43 PM   
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McCain will probably serve out his term, and (considering his age) I'm doubting he will run for office again.

Palin makes for an interesting wild-card. She will likely continue to go around making speeches, going on the talk-show circuit, etc. Whether she decides to jump in the 2012 race is debatable, but in all likelihood, the GOP "elites" don't like her and if she did run for the Republican nomination, she's going to have an uphill road to climb.

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RE: What Next for McCain/Palin after '08 Elections? - 11/5/2008 9:02:02 PM   
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Couldn't resist a "parting shot"

"Wasilla hillbillies looting Neiman Marcus from coast to coast"

I'd call this a bit of rogue behavior.
It could be argued that from maverick to rogue to dysfunctional is a short trip in the Republican party nowadays.


It comforts me to know it is a parting one; now all the operatives can return to holes from whence they came.

Thanx for the complement, but the only thing I'm an operator of is a forklift.
I don't think the fun of arguing with right-wingers will end on this Forum with the demise of McCain/Palin, quite the opposite in fact.
I look forward to long years of endless dire speculation on every progressive initiative.

Truely, the loser out of this may be Palin instead of McCain. As a Senator, McCain will be given ample opportunity to become involved wherever he wishes.
Hard to predict the next 2 years for Palin -
Palin faces questions, different landscape when she returns to Alaska
Can Palin Grow?
I think in 2010, between going for Lisa Murkowski's seat in the Senate or running for re-election as Governor she'll choose the latter. That means we may be hearing alot more things from Alaska in the national media in the next couple of years. Her homecoming may show a glimpse of her future.
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