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RE: What Next for McCain/Palin after '08 Elections? - 11/5/2008 11:06:11 PM
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Jhud
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Thanx for the complement, but the only thing I'm an operator of is a forklift.
I don't think the fun of arguing with right-wingers will end on this Forum with the demise of McCain/Palin, quite the opposite in fact.
I look forward to long years of endless dire speculation on every progressive initiative.
Yes, well we will see if a single one of your defenses of the Obama administration ever rises above a red herring, an ad hominem, or a tu quoque.
I know, don't hold my breath; it's not about reason or logic in your case, is it?
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RE: What Next for McCain/Palin after '08 Elections? - 11/6/2008 7:36:41 AM
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Don't look for her on Oprah's show, that lady seems to be prejudiced against white conservative successful women and biased towards eloquent blackmen with O's on their names.
Do mean more credentials like all the ones Obama has?
I don't mean the Oprah - Springer type shows but the Sunday Morning type political talk shows, perhaps Larry King at the worst. ;) This would give her a chance to talk, discuss, get her message out etc. in a less pressurized atmosphere as opposed to the election season. I remember that column or article Jack quoted from where the liberal said that the more she heard Palin talk the more she was impressed. She needs to do that just talk and such more so people get a more accurate idea of what she thinks, how she thinks, etc.
Credentials are overrated. Ted Stevens, Barney Frank, Nancy Pelosi, Tom Delay are examples of politicians with great credentials but really, did it help them all that much? They are hardly stuff of leadership in my book. I don't look at Alaska any less than I do Arkansas and Clinton turned out ok to fine. Her credentials to me aren't a problem.
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Are you talking about as for your preference in women or being elected to the highest office in the country?
I can't tell.
I'm joking about my preference for a woman. ; ) It was tongue in cheek.
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RE: What Next for McCain/Palin after '08 Elections? - 11/6/2008 9:45:23 AM
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Thanx for the complement, but the only thing I'm an operator of is a forklift.
I don't think the fun of arguing with right-wingers will end on this Forum with the demise of McCain/Palin, quite the opposite in fact.
I look forward to long years of endless dire speculation on every progressive initiative.
Yes, well we will see if a single one of your defenses of the Obama administration ever rises above a red herring, an ad hominem, or a tu quoque.
I know, don't hold my breath; it's not about reason or logic in your case, is it?
Well, if I've got a choice.......
I'll take #3 since it includes the other two! 
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Tu quoque
Latin for "You, too" or "You, also") is a Latin term used to mean an accusation of hypocrisy. The argument states that a certain position is false or wrong and/or should be disregarded because its proponent fails to act consistently in accordance with that position; it attempts to show that a criticism or objection applies equally to the person making it. It is considered an ad hominem argument, since it focuses on the party itself, rather than its positions.
It's also the easiest one to make with some folks.
Now, how about the meat of my post that you didn't quote?
Palin has the harder time bouncing back from this?
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RE: What Next for McCain/Palin after '08 Elections? - 11/6/2008 9:50:11 AM
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I think Palin has a future in Rebublican politics as she seems to connect to certain segments of the populace that have felt neglected by the RNC in the past few decades.
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RE: What Next for McCain/Palin after '08 Elections? - 11/6/2008 9:54:30 AM
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I think Palin has a future in Rebublican politics as she seems to connect to certain segments of the populace that have felt neglected by the RNC in the past few decades.
This is certainly true. It remains to be seen whether the GOP decides to try to reconnect to those segments.
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RE: What Next for McCain/Palin after '08 Elections? - 11/6/2008 9:51:31 PM
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I've been reading on Yahoo! news that Palin's ratings may be lower in Alaska after the '08 elections.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081106/pl_nm/us_usa_election_palin
It'll be interesting to watch. I think she has many loyal and excited, enthusiastic supporters (like a breath of fresh air into old-boy Washington politics), but also many who have felt some distaste after seeing her perform poorly in public speaking engagements (showing difficulty answering questions and a lack of basic knowledge and logic on political issues without reading off of a script) and the way she handles herself (many have felt she's less genuine - more of an ambitious person with great performance skills - than initially seen at her introduction at the RNC).
...It's ironic if it turns out that she meets with less approval after the '08 elections, given her meteoric rise recently. I guess maybe it could be a "love her" or "hate her" type of thing possibly. I don't know. I'm sure there are some who are in between and interested in seeing where she goes from here.
I wonder if McCain's approval ratings will go up/down after the '08 elections in Arizona and elsewhere?
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RE: What Next for McCain/Palin after '08 Elections? - 11/7/2008 9:40:43 AM
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is it true that Palin's own Republican party is leaking out dirt on her? that all these reports of stuff is coming from the Replican party????
Have they thrown her under the bus? if so, could it be because she made mccain lose?
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RE: What Next for McCain/Palin after '08 Elections? - 11/7/2008 2:03:08 PM
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ORIGINAL: IMA_CHRISTIAN
is it true that Palin's own Republican party is leaking out dirt on her? that all these reports of stuff is coming from the Replican party????
Have they thrown her under the bus? if so, could it be because she made mccain lose?
To answer your first question, it sounds like the leakage is coming from the GOP. In fact, I saw somewhere (perhaps on these boards) a link to an American Spectator article a few weeks back claiming that there were some leaks coming from the McCain from people working there that were allegedly disgruntled Mitt Romney supporters.
As for the second one, I'm not quite so sure Palin caused McCain to lose. Part of my reasoning is that prior to her being selected, most of the conservative base wasn't exactly looking forward to this election, with some threatening to either go 3rd-party or sit it out. And the base was heavily energized between Gov. Palin being chosen and the CBS interview/economic chaos.
You could argue that some independents/undecided voters may not have voted for him because of Palin, but even then there is no way a Republican is going to win an election these days WITHOUT a large base of conservatives supporting him/her. Thus, I think the economy hurt McCain more than anything.
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RE: What Next for McCain/Palin after '08 Elections? - 11/7/2008 11:52:51 PM
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Have they thrown her under the bus? if so, could it be because she made mccain lose?
The GOP at its highest levels has always operated under the assumption that if you paid your dues and served long enough, you'd get your reward. Suddenly, Saint Sarah appears out of nowhere and jumps ahead of Rudy "Did I mention 911?" Giuliani and Mitt "I'm a Mormon but I almost look like a Baptist" Romney, and others who have served their GOP masters for a long time. Remember how they praised Saint Sarah through gritted teeth at the GOP convention? Do you think they, and their huge and rich political machines, will let Saint Sarah jump ahead of them?
She was NEVER more than half of a Quayle, and he was nothing.
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RE: What Next for McCain/Palin after '08 Elections? - 11/8/2008 9:33:51 AM
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Palin hits back at McCain team's 'hillbilly' charges
Inspite of all of it, she appears to be trying to avoid negativism and keep grace, but that's hard to do when firey darts are being lobbed at you and you can't see where they are coming from.
Quite unfair. She's got her work cut out for her, interesting to see how she handles it.
Margaret Thatcher didn't have an easy go of it early on either.
http://www.biography.com/search/article.do?id=9504796
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RE: What Next for McCain/Palin after '08 Elections? - 11/8/2008 10:40:55 AM
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I for one welcome another Palin attempt on the national stage.
I also welcome a permanent Democratic majority.
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RE: What Next for McCain/Palin after '08 Elections? - 11/8/2008 12:02:41 PM
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I also welcome a permanent Democratic majority.
We've put a collectivist in office, but this isn't quite Red China yet.
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