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RE: Congratulations to President-Elect Barack Obama - 11/5/2008 10:53:42 AM
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miasma
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I can't believe some of the ridiculousness (like socialism  ) still being moaned and groaned about. Stretches like that claim and others are part of why McCain lost. Obama talked about realities, McCain's campaign kept trying to throw out bait (Ayers, his birth certificate, "socialism," etc.), which, clearly, the nation did not take.
"It's the answer that led those who have been told for so long, by so many, to be cynical and fearful and doubtful about what we can achieve ... to put their hands on the arc of history and bend it once more toward the hope of a better day."
I thought the booing was pretty much exemplary of why the GOP lost. That behaviour (not to mention the fear-mongering and other petty, juvenile stunts of McCain supporters) is an embarrassment to intelligent grown folk everywhere, regardless of one's political views.
It was refreshing to see some of the old McCain back, in his speech, I hope he will continue to be a leader in D.C.
Obama's speech has set a marvelous tone for his presidency. I hope everyone who worked so hard, to get him elected, keeps at it to bring the ideas of hope and progress into reality.
So let us summon a new spirit of patriotism; of service and responsibility where each of us resolves to pitch in and work harder and look after not only ourselves, but each other. Let us remember that if this financial crisis taught us anything, it’s that we cannot have a thriving Wall Street while Main Street suffers – in this country, we rise or fall as one nation; as one people.
Let us resist the temptation to fall back on the same partisanship and pettiness and immaturity that has poisoned our politics for so long.
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RE: Congratulations to President-Elect Barack Obama - 11/5/2008 11:03:00 AM
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What happened to "Country First"? John McCain realized that part of "Country First" is standing behind our new President instead of being a sore loser. Kudos to him.
...or does "Country First" only apply when your guy wins?
I sure didn't hear anything about "Country First" from the "OTHER SIDE" these past eight years....
most divisive and obstructionist "opposition" party there ever was...
"Country First"? You bet. Making sure that Obama's agenda doesn't see the light of day. THAT is putting "America and Country First".....
A) I agree that Democrats did everything they could to "gum up the works" to prevent things for being accomplished.
B) For YOU I see "Country First" was just a slogan.
Obama has ALREADY been elected.
Please tell me what good sour grapes does at this point.
I do not see anywhere in the person's post to which you responded where he said something along the lines of "McCain would have probably been a bad president anyway" - which would have been a "sour grapes" type statement (where you despise what you cannot get). What you probably mean is "sore loser". Just because a person is not happy that Obama is president and says his concerns about it, etc. does not automatically mean that the person is a sore loser. I am not happy that Obama won...I am greatly concerned of the changes he is likely to implement (FOC act for one), etc... and this does not mean that I am a sore loser. It just means that I am greatly concerned about what will happen now with Obama as president.
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RE: Congratulations to President-Elect Barack Obama - 11/5/2008 11:07:33 AM
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One of the reasons many problems developed was that the GOP nominated the wrong guy in 2000. Completely agree. This is one Dem that probably would have voted for him in 2000.
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RE: Congratulations to President-Elect Barack Obama - 11/5/2008 11:10:23 AM
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Ayers, his birth certificate, "socialism," etc.),
Obama's relationship with the likes of Ayers (and Wright, and Rezko, and Pflager, etc) were legit....as were the comparisons to socialism (which Barack's plans ARE).
But the McCain campaign were not the one's behind the asinine birth certificate flap...
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RE: Congratulations to President-Elect Barack Obama - 11/5/2008 11:12:03 AM
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oh yeah,, thats one thing that obama will have to prove -
people accused him of being a socialist.. since I dont bleive he is....
but some of you think he is .... then i ask you ..
When will we be able to see if he is a socialist or not! or... rather,, that he will try to turn america into that kind of way of life?
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RE: Congratulations to President-Elect Barack Obama - 11/5/2008 11:16:44 AM
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ORIGINAL: miasma
I can't believe some of the ridiculousness (like socialism ) still being moaned and groaned about. Stretches like that claim and others are part of why McCain lost. Obama talked about realities, McCain's campaign kept trying to throw out bait (Ayers, his birth certificate, "socialism," etc.), which, clearly, the nation did not take.
I can't either, but I have to remember the nature of these particular forums. :) Obama is pure evil wrapped in evil paper and an evil bow; McCain has a halo over his head. The Christians who didn't support McCain are going to Hell.... You know; that's just the usual. 
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RE: Congratulations to President-Elect Barack Obama - 11/5/2008 11:42:45 AM
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I can't either, but I have to remember the nature of these particular forums. :) Obama is pure evil wrapped in evil paper and an evil bow; McCain has a halo over his head. The Christians who didn't support McCain are going to Hell.... You know; that's just the usual.
Actually, I think the Republican response has been exemplory. Obama supporters promised riots in the streets if he lost; Republicans have been with a few exceptions have been completely congratulatory. Saying otherwise is simply deceptive and unfair.
And the myth that Republicans ever saw McCain as faultless is so laughable I have to conclude anyone who would say such a thing must have been asleep for the last two years and only woke up this morning to election results.
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RE: Congratulations to President-Elect Barack Obama - 11/5/2008 12:24:46 PM
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tafkam
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Obama is pure evil wrapped in evil paper and an evil bow; McCain has a halo over his head
It becomes painfully obvious, love, that you have not really read these forums, or you would have known better than to post this particular gem.
Most all of us on the conservative side have been very critical of McCain in a number of areas, and were less than thrilled with him as the GOP Presidential candidate...
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RE: Congratulations to President-Elect Barack Obama - 11/5/2008 1:23:10 PM
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(groaning as I type)
Congratulations to President-elect Obama. History was made.
Note to the Republican "elites": Before you start putting all the blame for the McCain loss on Gov. Palin, please remember one thing. If it wasn't for her, the base would have been possibly MORE likely to either go 3rd-party or sit it out, which could have made this a LOT worse. They should be thanking her for the momentum the McCain camp had until the economic roller-coaster.
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RE: Congratulations to President-Elect Barack Obama - 11/5/2008 1:29:17 PM
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What happened to "Country First"? John McCain realized that part of "Country First" is standing behind our new President instead of being a sore loser. Kudos to him.
...or does "Country First" only apply when your guy wins?
I sure didn't hear anything about "Country First" from the "OTHER SIDE" these past eight years....
most divisive and obstructionist "opposition" party there ever was...
"Country First"? You bet. Making sure that Obama's agenda doesn't see the light of day. THAT is putting "America and Country First".....
Well, "Country First" doesn't do us any good really. It should be Jesus first. However, at the age of 43, I have a feeling that I won't see that in my lifetime.
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RE: Congratulations to President-Elect Barack Obama - 11/5/2008 1:34:24 PM
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(groaning as I type)
Congratulations to President-elect Obama. History was made.
Note to the Republican "elites": Before you start putting all the blame for the McCain loss on Gov. Palin, please remember one thing. If it wasn't for her, the base would have been possibly MORE likely to either go 3rd-party or sit it out, which could have made this a LOT worse. They should be thanking her for the momentum the McCain camp had until the economic roller-coaster.
I agree about Palin. I wasn't going to vote at all until she joined in. I voted Rep because I disliked Obama slightly more than I disliked McCain and I do like Sarah Palin.
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RE: Congratulations to President-Elect Barack Obama - 11/5/2008 1:34:35 PM
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solo_soprano22
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Obama is pure evil wrapped in evil paper and an evil bow; McCain has a halo over his head
It becomes painfully obvious, love, that you have not really read these forums, or you would have known better than to post this particular gem.
Most all of us on the conservative side have been very critical of McCain in a number of areas, and were less than thrilled with him as the GOP Presidential candidate...
I've read them. :) I was exaggerating a bit, but I'm quite tired of the name calling. I've seen a lot of un-Christianity around here; I suppose when something happens that one doesn't agree with or another Christian supports another candidate, new sides of people come out. Same as in real life (sometimes). No surprise. :)
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RE: Congratulations to President-Elect Barack Obama - 11/5/2008 1:40:35 PM
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miasma
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Obama supporters promised riots in the streets if he lost
The only time I have heard that ridiculous speculation, in all my political sites and blogs, news watching and listening, etc. over these past few months was on this board/from McCain supporters.
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Just out of curiousity, I googled "obama riots."
The first page of results, predicting riots, were all conservative sources (Fox News, Malkin, Limbaugh, The Conservative Council, etc.) - going back to the whole platform of fear, which contributed to McCain losing the campaign.
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RE: Congratulations to President-Elect Barack Obama - 11/5/2008 1:41:57 PM
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As a Brit, I think it's wonderful that Obama won. So glad the Republicans didn't get back in.
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RE: Congratulations to President-Elect Barack Obama - 11/5/2008 1:48:16 PM
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Jhud
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The only time I have heard that ridiculous speculation, in all my political sites and blogs, news watching and listening, etc. over these past few months was on this board.
Then you should read more:
Erica Jong Tells Italians Obama Loss 'Will Spark the Second American Civil War. Blood Will Run in the Streets'
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RE: Congratulations to President-Elect Barack Obama - 11/5/2008 1:51:58 PM
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miasma
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As I called it "ridiculous speculation," Jong falls straight into that camp. I was thinking more of legitimate sources of information, rather than "paranoid" and "obsessive" celebrities from decades ago.
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RE: Congratulations to President-Elect Barack Obama - 11/5/2008 2:11:20 PM
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oh yeah,, thats one thing that obama will have to prove -
people accused him of being a socialist.. since I dont bleive he is....
but some of you think he is .... then i ask you ..
When will we be able to see if he is a socialist or not! or... rather,, that he will try to turn america into that kind of way of life?
When the auto companies are taken over by the government you'll have your first glimpse.
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RE: Congratulations to President-Elect Barack Obama - 11/5/2008 2:12:09 PM
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Lets pay attention to what Mccain said, especially all the mccain admirers here.
He shushed up the crowd who were booing obama's win.
he said he was going to work with obama and lets get behind him to make this country work.
thats what we can do. and just because peopel have not done it in the past,, does not mean we cant do it for the future.
Amen to that!
Amen Amen Amen!
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RE: Congratulations to President-Elect Barack Obama - 11/5/2008 2:38:02 PM
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IMA_CHRISTIAN
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oh yeah,, thats one thing that obama will have to prove -
people accused him of being a socialist.. since I dont bleive he is....
but some of you think he is .... then i ask you ..
When will we be able to see if he is a socialist or not! or... rather,, that he will try to turn america into that kind of way of life?
When the auto companies are taken over by the government you'll have your first glimpse.
ben, that is a helpful comment.. i will be interested to see what changes will happen as the months progress. Im sure folks will catch it and post it here.
by the way, do you know if the $777 billion bailout worked?
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RE: Congratulations to President-Elect Barack Obama - 11/5/2008 2:39:24 PM
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Obama is pure evil wrapped in evil paper and an evil bow; McCain has a halo over his head
It becomes painfully obvious, love, that you have not really read these forums, or you would have known better than to post this particular gem.
Most all of us on the conservative side have been very critical of McCain in a number of areas, and were less than thrilled with him as the GOP Presidential candidate...
No. She's right.
Obama has been declared everything from a socialist and a marxist to a terrorist sympathizer.
It's more apparent to people who support Obama.
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