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RE: Your Expectations - 11/5/2008 10:35:17 AM
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IMA_CHRISTIAN
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think about past presidents in your own lifetime.
Before they got elected, they had a list of things they were for and against.
When they got into office, did they accomplish ALL the things on their list?
****i dont think so***
therefore, Obama will be the same, He may have some ideas that he may WANT to get accomplished, but reality often proves that may not be the case.
this might give you hope if you worry about the things you disagree with him on the most.
THIS IS NOT A DICTATORSHIP. Please remember that.
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RE: Your Expectations - 11/5/2008 10:36:49 AM
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relady
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I expect that we will have a thoughtful, intelligent President who will put that face forward to the world. That would be the best start we could hope for.
Beyond that, I think that if the Republicans don't want to work with him that will just cost them even more next election. He intends to put politics of personal destruction right where it belongs...in the trash. I wish him the very best of luck in that endeavor.
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RE: Your Expectations - 11/5/2008 10:38:41 AM
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therefore, Obama will be the same, He may have some ideas that he may WANT to get accomplished, but reality often proves that may not be the case.
Hey common , Let's be fair now, Obama has a great record for accomplishing things!
I mean look at what he has accomplished so far!!
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Again, I'm looking for the positives in all this.
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RE: Your Expectations - 11/5/2008 10:39:32 AM
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Acts29
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I expect that we will have a thoughtful, intelligent President who will put that face forward to the world. That would be the best start we could hope for.
Beyond that, I think that if the Republicans don't want to work with him that will just cost them even more next election. He intends to put politics of personal destruction right where it belongs...in the trash. I wish him the very best of luck in that endeavor.
?? I am sorry but I do not understand your comment.
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RE: Your Expectations - 11/5/2008 10:41:57 AM
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IMA_CHRISTIAN
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therefore, Obama will be the same, He may have some ideas that he may WANT to get accomplished, but reality often proves that may not be the case.
Hey common , Let's be fair now, Obama has a great record for accomplishing things!
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Again, I'm looking for the positives in all this.
Oh ye of little faith.. Trust in God.. (I'm sure you do). Just wait.. lets see what he will do as president. he has not started the job yet. Jan 20th will be the day. and he has to sit down with George Bush in the meantime.
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RE: Your Expectations - 11/5/2008 10:45:05 AM
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letusreason
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I expect that we will have a thoughtful, intelligent President who will put that face forward to the world. That would be the best start we could hope for.
Beyond that, I think that if the Republicans don't want to work with him that will just cost them even more next election. He intends to put politics of personal destruction right where it belongs...in the trash. I wish him the very best of luck in that endeavor.
I'm puzzled at your belief that abandoning conservative principals wins elections?
So you are in favor of a one party system then?
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RE: Your Expectations - 11/5/2008 10:47:32 AM
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letusreason
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therefore, Obama will be the same, He may have some ideas that he may WANT to get accomplished, but reality often proves that may not be the case.
Hey common , Let's be fair now, Obama has a great record for accomplishing things!
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Again, I'm looking for the positives in all this.
Oh ye of little faith.. Trust in God.. (I'm sure you do). Just wait.. lets see what he will do as president. he has not started the job yet. Jan 20th will be the day. and he has to sit down with George Bush in the meantime.
No my point was that I am trusting God that he doesn't accomplish that which harms the country.
Some think it won't , there in lies the debate.
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RE: Your Expectations - 11/5/2008 10:47:51 AM
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Every president is intelligent but I could careless about his "thoughtfulness"
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RE: Your Expectations - 11/5/2008 10:48:01 AM
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Acts29
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That Hillary is already making plans to run for election in 2012.
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RE: Your Expectations - 11/5/2008 10:48:52 AM
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relady
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?? I am sorry but I do not understand your comment. It means he wants to work "across the aisle" and forge a very bipartisan government. I expect you will see him invite some Repubs into his administration. The politics of personal destruction was what ran the two Bush campaigns and got him elected. It fosters partisanship and hatred between the parties. I think Obama fully intends to leave that in the past where it belongs.
I am just thrilled that Kay Hagan took Liddy Dole's seat! Woot! Go Kay!
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RE: Your Expectations - 11/5/2008 10:51:42 AM
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IMA_CHRISTIAN
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No my point was that I am trusting God that he doesn't accomplish that which harms the country.
Some think it won't , there in lies the debate.
oh i see.
by the way, someone on another chat site was worried that with the laws protecting gay people getting passed more potentially realistically than before, they were worried that gay people were going to run amuck on the streets, like in sodom and gomorrah and just go around raping people willy nilly all over the place like a pack of wild dogs.. now i think that is going overthe top.
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RE: Your Expectations - 11/5/2008 10:51:46 AM
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He intends to put politics of personal destruction right where it belongs...in the trash.
Haven't most presidents said that???
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RE: Your Expectations - 11/5/2008 11:13:10 AM
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Hello comrade...
I HOPE that Obama is thwarted in making CHANGES...
Either he will govern from the center, according to his campaign rhetoric or he will govern from the left in accord with his record. We will have to awit and see. My opinion is that he will govern from the far left. I believe that he has an affinity for socialism and is anti capitalism.
Conservatives MUST insist on NO bipartisanship. Conservatives MUST let representatives and senators know in no uncertain terms that we do not have and do not want one party. Conservatives MUT let them know that we want gridlock. That we expect them to stand up and fight for conservative values at all cost. People like McCain and Lindsay Graham must be reined in.
In Washington bipartisan has come to mean agreeing with the left. Standing up for conservative values has come to mean obstructionism. We need no more 'gangs of 10' or anything like that... we need gridlock!!
I am very disappointed with McCain and I hope he will now go home. He did not run to win as much as he ran to be liked. He has served the country well be did not serve the party well, IMO.
What do I really expect? I have not seen any conservative leadership since Newt. I expect the democrats to ram things down our throat and I expect the republicans to do nothing other than try to get reelected. I expect the democrats to be leftists and I expect the republicans to be 'democrat lite'.
Yeah, I am cynical... why shouldn't I be?
I expect America to become Amerika... but I DO have hope. I get hope from knowing history, from knowing that the left will over reach and that pendulums swing... they always swing. They swing one way and then they swing back.
I agree with you, jbow.
As for McCain, (this will sound cynical and maybe even conspiratorial) I've thought he just may have been the "sacrificial lamb" for the Repubs. Kind of goes with the one-government comment you made. He was chosen, not to win, but to make a "good showing" for the "opposition"! After all, both major parties want the same end.
And that's why Newt's now just a Fox contributor! 
As for hope, my hope is in the finished work of Jesus and the truth and justice of God. And the fact I know how the story ends! 
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RE: Your Expectations - 11/5/2008 11:21:28 AM
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RichLP
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Troops home...
Sorry, John. Once Obama gets into office and sees the real situation on the ground, I don't think he will be recalling any troops anytime soon.
1. The Iraqi government of Prime Minister Nouri Al-Maliki wants us out no later than Dec 31, 2011.
2. If the United States and Iraq do not get a new SoFA (Status of Forces Agreement, a legal contract between our government and the government of a host nation's government re: our military troops - we have one with Germany, Japan, and South Korea), we will be technically open to war crimes prosecutions.
3. Currently, we are in Iraq under the authority of a UN Mandate which expires on Dec 31, 2008. That's why Iraq wants a new SoFA with terms favorable to them (as I said, a final and conclusive date for the complete withdrawal of our military personnel).
The Iraqis in fact had originally targeted 2010 - the same year that Obama's 16-month withdrawal plan would have fallen in were it to be executed. The Bush administration pushed it to 2011.
THIS, ManimalX, is the situation on the ground - and Obama, as well as the Bush administration, has shown to be closer in touch to it than John McCain.
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RE: Your Expectations - 11/5/2008 11:35:31 AM
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LabGuy
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That Hillary is already making plans to run for election in 2012.
Nah, it'd have to be 2016. Unless you don't think Obama will run for re-election?
-Robb
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RE: Your Expectations - 11/5/2008 11:48:07 AM
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LabGuy
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?? I am sorry but I do not understand your comment.
It means he wants to work "across the aisle" and forge a very bipartisan government.
Except he has no record whatsoever of doing so in the Senate. He, in fact, has a record of feigning bipartisanship to gain political advantage. Please see this letter that McCain wrote to him in February 2006 (Senate business, long before either had decided to run for President).
(It absolutely astonishes me that after that incident, McCain took Obama at his word on public financing. Perhaps he really didn't have the judgment to be President after all.)
-Robb
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RE: Your Expectations - 11/5/2008 11:53:44 AM
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EStan
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I expect that it will soon be a hate-crime in the U.S. to read Romans 1:26-28 where anyone else can hear you.
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RE: Your Expectations - 11/5/2008 11:54:52 AM
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stamper_ben
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Speaking of Hillary...
I expect to see the Clinton's lose their hold in the Democrat party. She will continue to hold her Senate seat but will be "put out to pasture" by the Reid/Pelosi wing that has wanted control of the party. Now they got it.
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RE: Your Expectations - 11/5/2008 12:01:57 PM
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letusreason
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No my point was that I am trusting God that he doesn't accomplish that which harms the country.
Some think it won't , there in lies the debate.
oh i see.
by the way, someone on another chat site was worried that with the laws protecting gay people getting passed more potentially realistically than before, they were worried that gay people were going to run amuck on the streets, like in sodom and gomorrah and just go around raping people willy nilly all over the place like a pack of wild dogs.. now i think that is going overthe top.
No they are a little more stealthy than that. They prefer to subvert by imposing their lifestyle views in the public schools at the elementary age to both indoctrinate the young and validate themselves.
I expect more of that will happen now.
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RE: Your Expectations - 11/5/2008 12:12:24 PM
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That Hillary is already making plans to run for election in 2012.
Nah, it'd have to be 2016. Unless you don't think Obama will run for re-election?
-Robb
If anyone was listening (or read the transcript, like I did!), Obama started campaigning for 2012 last night.
He was also warning us that "change" wouldn't happen quickly...it may take a while. Made me think about Biden's comments. Could Biden have been parroting what Obama was saying behind closed doors?
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RE: Your Expectations - 11/5/2008 12:13:46 PM
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As for President Obama, I fully expect him to govern, as the Christian he says he is, and my prayers are with him.
Hillary, on the other hand...
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That Hillary is already making plans to run for election in 2012.
Nah, it'd have to be 2016. Unless you don't think Obama will run for re-election?
-Robb
I have made, and will continue to make a wild prediction; The Clintons, will switch parties, quoting Ronald Reagan that the party left them. I know it seems far-feched, but you read it here first.
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RE: Your Expectations - 11/5/2008 12:42:07 PM
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I expect that every word of criticism of Obama will be treated as a "racial hatred" remark. It was okay for everyone to criticize George W for eight years, but it will NOT be okay to criticize Obama. I believe that Obama is one of the biggest racists in America. You absolutely cannot go to the church he went to for 20 years and then claim otherwise. The country will find out all about Obama in the coming years.
Thank you for your comments Mr. Limbaugh. 
I am not Mr. Limbaugh and I never listen to him on the radio. Just stating the facts as I see them.
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RE: Your Expectations - 11/5/2008 4:29:49 PM
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Also, I will expect President Obama, as the Consitiutional expert, he has been touted as, to veto any legislation, that does not wash in the filter, of the afformentioned document.
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RE: Your Expectations - 11/5/2008 4:38:35 PM
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stamper_ben
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Also, I will expect President Obama, as the Consitiutional expert, he has been touted as, to veto any legislation, that does not wash in the filter, of the afformentioned document.
HA!
Thanks for the laugh!
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