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A Nation Divided - 11/5/2008 12:23:22 AM
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AslansChild
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This election truly shows that we are a Nation divided. Obama won on a single issue. But political correctness will not allow me to state the obvious, wait for the exit polls to see how he won.
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RE: A Nation Divided - 11/5/2008 12:25:38 AM
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This election truly shows that we are a Nation divided. Obama won on a single issue. But political correctness will not allow me to state the obvious, wait for the exit polls to see how he won.
a single issue?
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RE: A Nation Divided - 11/5/2008 12:27:39 AM
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ManimalX
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He's black, is what the OP is getting at.
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RE: A Nation Divided - 11/5/2008 12:28:19 AM
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This election truly shows that we are a Nation divided. Obama won on a single issue. But political correctness will not allow me to state the obvious, wait for the exit polls to see how he won.
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This election truly shows that we are a Nation divided. Obama won on a single issue. But political correctness will not allow me to state the obvious, wait for the exit polls to see how he won.
Let me take a wild guess... you are playing the race card? Nice try.
And what will the Exit polls tell you? Exit polls are the least reliable of all polls.
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RE: A Nation Divided - 11/5/2008 12:29:37 AM
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The popular vote shows how divided we are. This may have been a 'landslide' in the electoral college but in the popular vote it is 51 49 hardly an overwelming majority.
Edit to add: the precentages were based on what was reported on MSN at the time of post and may not be the final percentages of the race.
< Message edited by sue244 -- 11/5/2008 12:42:05 AM >
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RE: A Nation Divided - 11/5/2008 12:29:49 AM
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He's black, is what the OP is getting at.
Sadly...Yes
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RE: A Nation Divided - 11/5/2008 12:32:22 AM
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The popular vote shows how divided we are. This may have been a 'landslide' in the electoral college but in the popular vote it is 51 49 hardly an overwelming majority.
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RE: A Nation Divided - 11/5/2008 12:34:42 AM
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AslansChild
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He's black, is what the OP is getting at
Yes, As a rule you will see a large % of Black voters went with Obama while a very small % went for McCain While you will see a smaller delta between white voters for Obama. I have a very close relationship with a large Black community of dyed in the wool Evangelical Christians probably over 150 and 90% of them voted for Obama. Based on all of the posts on this board the general concensus between the majority of Christians was that McCain/Palin (especially Palin) supported Christian values.
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RE: A Nation Divided - 11/5/2008 12:34:49 AM
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Sorry, but I didn't give the liberals an inch when they whined about popular vs electoral and I am not about to start doing so now.
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RE: A Nation Divided - 11/5/2008 12:34:53 AM
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Yes, race played a part in getting people to register to vote. But the economy was the biggest factor. The young voter and college age voter also played a decisive part in the mix.
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RE: A Nation Divided - 11/5/2008 12:37:28 AM
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AslansChild
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Yes, race played a part in getting people to register to vote. But the economy was the biggest factor. The young voter and college age voter also played a decisive part in the mix.
I also believe that many republicans registered to balance the upswing from the Acorn crowd.
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RE: A Nation Divided - 11/5/2008 12:37:43 AM
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Yes, race played a part in getting people to register to vote. But the economy was the biggest factor. The young voter and college age voter also played a decisive part in the mix.
I agree with your post. New voters played a very important part in this election.
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RE: A Nation Divided - 11/5/2008 12:38:22 AM
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I don't think it was just race. I think it had a lot to do with who voted. This was an election that we had a significantly voter base. Obama got the people to the polls.
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RE: A Nation Divided - 11/5/2008 12:39:17 AM
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This may have been a 'landslide' in the electoral college but in the popular vote it is 51 49 hardly an overwelming majority. Umm right now it's 51-47 and the vote isn't finished quite yet. He's already won by more than Bush in 2004 and Bush immediately claimed a mandate, LOL.
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RE: A Nation Divided - 11/5/2008 12:40:29 AM
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Matt don't worry I'm not going to whine about the Popular vs. Electoral vote. I concede we lost in both cases I'm just saying Obama did not win an overwelming majority in the popular vote. It was not a landslide in that arena which shows how divided this country really is.
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RE: A Nation Divided - 11/5/2008 12:41:45 AM
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Matt don't worry I'm not going to whine about the Popular vs. Electoral vote. I concede we lost in both cases I'm just saying Obama did not win an overwelming majority in the popular vote. It was not a landslide in that arena which shows how divided this country really is.
Yeah, I agree. The divide will only grow deeper.
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RE: A Nation Divided - 11/5/2008 1:48:29 AM
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On my way home from work yesterday (11/4/08), I heard where a black woman who was about 79 or so say why she voted for Obama. The only reason she gave was that she voted for him because he was the first African-American candidate. This makes one wonder how many others voted for him for just that reason alone.
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RE: A Nation Divided - 11/5/2008 1:59:14 AM
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The popular vote shows how divided we are. This may have been a 'landslide' in the electoral college but in the popular vote it is 51 49 hardly an overwelming majority.
Edit to add: the precentages were based on what was reported on MSN at the time of post and may not be the final percentages of the race.
I remember Gore winning the popular vote too..........what does that say about Bush?
I think this is a very sad way of thinking. Although I know it's out there and have been waiting to hear this. Sad just Sad...........No the man won by a Landslide and if you did watch the poll #'s that posted what race was voting this year and years past.........so I don't buy your reason. I will just pray that the reasons soon leave your heart.
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RE: A Nation Divided - 11/5/2008 2:46:47 AM
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Yes, race played a part in getting people to register to vote. But the economy was the biggest factor...
"Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal; but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also." (Matthew 6:19-21, emphasis added)
“No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon." (v. 24)
"Therefore I say to you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink; nor about your body, what you will put on. Is not life more than food and the body more than clothing? Look at the birds of the air, for they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they? Which of you by worrying can add one cubit to his stature?
"So why do you worry about clothing? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow: they neither toil nor spin; and yet I say to you that even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Now if God so clothes the grass of the field, which today is, and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will He not much more clothe you, O you of little faith?
"Therefore do not worry, saying, 'What shall we eat?' or 'What shall we drink?' or 'What shall we wear?' For after all these things the Gentiles seek. For your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things. But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you. " (Matthew 6:24-33; emphasis added).
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The young voter and college age voter also played a decisive part in the mix.
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I agree with your post. New voters played a very important part in this election.
i.e., much of Obama's electorate were likely uninformed, inexperienced (with politics and voting), and making decisions on superficial criteria. This is why he won.
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RE: A Nation Divided - 11/5/2008 5:12:37 AM
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Oh, I agree there's a divide! 
Just not the one you folks are talking about.
And it won't be getting deeper because the side that lost is shrinking daily -
Young voters had 'record turnout,' preferred Democrat by wide margin
Having gone back to college at an older age i figured the college age people would vote Obama. A good majority of college age voters are democrat leaning based on touchy feely notions that are able to thrive until one actually has to work for a living. Not saying that all who are democrats are the same way but many of the young college age democrats are such based on ideals which are fostered by the relatively sheltered nature of college for most of them.
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RE: A Nation Divided - 11/5/2008 5:16:27 AM
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No the man won by a Landslide
He won by a landslide in the electoral college but not in the popular vote. I am not saying that in anyway to tarnish his win, he won fairly under the system by which we elect presidents, congratulations to him. The popular vote though is a better indicator of which way the individuals in the nation lean and in no way can his margin in the popular vote be called a landslide.
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RE: A Nation Divided - 11/5/2008 6:52:32 AM
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He's black, is what the OP is getting at.
If you're right than why did Iowa go for Obama with only two percent black?
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RE: A Nation Divided - 11/5/2008 7:03:47 AM
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On my way home from work yesterday (11/4/08), I heard where a black woman who was about 79 or so say why she voted for Obama. The only reason she gave was that she voted for him because he was the first African-American candidate. This makes one wonder how many others voted for him for just that reason alone.
Why is it wrong for a black person to vote for Obama just because he's black, but it's okay for an "evangelical" to vote for Palin because she's also "evangelical"?
Don't get me wrong, I didn't vote for Obama, I voted for Barr. And I don't care if you vote based on religion. But why would one reason be okay, and the other not?
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