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RE: What went wrong for McCain - 11/5/2008 2:44:35 PM
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Peter_Gunn
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Peter - hey but the good thing is - you had a part in deciding who you wanted.
obama could not have done it without the peopel who voted for him. the power was in the people's hands ,,, the voters.
Wow! He's gotten to you! 
WHO has the power?
WHO sets up the authority on earth?
Sounds like you're willing to change scripture for this man.
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RE: What went wrong for McCain - 11/5/2008 2:49:19 PM
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Change the country to suit me?
That, by far, is one of the best quotes I have seen on this site. That's what this election was all about.
I also find it interesting that congress has an all-time low approval rating of, what is it now, 17%? It's lower than Bush's, that's for sure. Yet, the majority of them are democrats, and people aren't calling to oust Pelosi.
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RE: What went wrong for McCain - 11/5/2008 2:50:44 PM
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I also find it interesting that congress has an all-time low approval rating of, what is it now, 17%? Last I saw it it was 9%.
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RE: What went wrong for McCain - 11/5/2008 2:52:07 PM
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IMA_CHRISTIAN
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Peter - hey but the good thing is - you had a part in deciding who you wanted.
obama could not have done it without the peopel who voted for him. the power was in the people's hands ,,, the voters.
Wow! He's gotten to you!
WHO has the power?
WHO sets up the authority on earth?
Sounds like you're willing to change scripture for this man.
ya know, ,lately i've been starting to say "Take-Me-To-Your-Leader" ;)
but kidding aside, i'm just trying to be an encouragement, I do know God is the one in charge.. since i am a Calvinist (believe it or not!).... then i do beleive in the sovereignty of God,,, and that God in his providence, put up Barack for his eternal purposes. you dont think Barack won without God's ordaining it, do you?
you dont think obama pulled a fast one on God and sorta snuck in there do you?
I just have a wait and see atttitude. I'm still going to continue life as usual. mentally im in a better position than the obama-haters because i already am ready to accept the truth that he won, and i wont spend nights worrying.. not yet anyway.
(((check my motto below from Phillipians :)
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 2:56:25 PM
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I truly believe we can thank the current president - George Bush - for helping Obama get elected. And the "Blame it on Bush" mantra just keeps on going... 
OK, if that's your opinion, fine. But what has W done that was terrific?
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 2:59:02 PM
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stamper_ben
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OK, if that's your opinion, fine. But what has W done that was terrific? Well, he is to blame for all the ills of the country. We can blame him for everything that happened since 9/11/01 until now. Isn't that enough?
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 3:04:59 PM
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Mark328
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OK, if that's your opinion, fine. But what has W done that was terrific? Well, he is to blame for all the ills of the country. We can blame him for everything that happened since 9/11/01 until now. Isn't that enough?
I was just asking what wonderful things he has done, in your opinion, since you feel that he is being unfairly blamed. That's all.
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 3:13:23 PM
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I truly believe we can thank the current president - George Bush - for helping Obama get elected. And the "Blame it on Bush" mantra just keeps on going...
OK, if that's your opinion, fine. But what has W done that was terrific?
He gave us two decent Supreme Court Justices. And now Obama will cancel them out with his radical choices.
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RE: What went wrong for McCain - 11/5/2008 3:13:41 PM
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Change the country to suit me?
That, by far, is one of the best quotes I have seen on this site. That's what this election was all about.
I also find it interesting that congress has an all-time low approval rating of, what is it now, 17%? It's lower than Bush's, that's for sure. Yet, the majority of them are democrats, and people aren't calling to oust Pelosi.
Congress' approval rating is the most worthless statistic currently out there. Senators and Reps are elected on regional issues and most incumbents get re-elected. We don't vote for "a Congress", we vote for individuals in our states and districts. Most turnover happens in races where there is no incumbent or the incumbent is awaiting sentencing.
Example: Tennessee returned Lamar Alexander (R) to the Senate. He was virtually unopposed because he has a long positive record in the state.
The Democrats won 5 of 9 House races but three of those were dems that did not have a GOP opponent. Where GOP ran against a Dem, the GOP won 4 of 6 seats. Additionally, the GOP took over as majority party in the state house and senate (sitting Gov. is a Dem.).
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 3:15:37 PM
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Obama overcame all those things, and still won. He carried himself as a confident person, he took the high road by not constantly being on the defense of the thigns that were thrown at him, he just kept plodding on.
Yeah, when he had to face a fawning mainstream media, an economy that couldn't have been better for a Democrat, relative peace in Iraq and on the terrorism front allowing him to avoid dealing with national security, and the ability to raise unlimited amounts of cash by lying about public financing and taking specious donations online. It must have been excruciating to have almost every factor line up in his favor.
Don't be fooled; he was always the frontrunner and it was his to lose; to his credit he didn't blow the significant advantage.
Now that you mention it, for a nation so strapped for cash, how did they manage to give Obama over $600 million for his campaign.
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 3:16:55 PM
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Now that you mention it, for a nation so strapped for cash, how did they manage to give Obama over $600 million for his campaign.
WHO gave him $600 million???
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 3:17:16 PM
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I was just asking what wonderful things he has done, in your opinion, since you feel that he is being unfairly blamed. That's all. Okay, how about the Bush Tax cut that helped keep the economy outta the tank and kept unemployment low.
How about the fact that there haven't been any terrorist attacks in the country?
How about the fact that he FINALLY listened to sense and let General Petraeus go ahead with the surge in Iraq?
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 3:20:32 PM
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Peter_Gunn
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I truly believe we can thank the current president - George Bush - for helping Obama get elected. And the "Blame it on Bush" mantra just keeps on going...
OK, if that's your opinion, fine. But what has W done that was terrific?
He gave us two decent Supreme Court Justices. And now Obama will cancel them out with his radical choices.
Agreed, Millie...and I believe he's a truly born-again believer and that's not something we can usually say about a president!
As another thread states, he is our last pro-life president...I honestly believe that. And, as such, he, if allowed by congress, would have saved a lot of lives that were taken by abortion. And, if life is that precious to him, he would also have fought for life to be protected, from conception to the grave.
A radical pro-abortion president, who has no respect for life and who feels he has the authority to say when life begins and ends, is a dreadful type to be in control of our government. Indeed! Nobody's life is safe in the hands of a monster like that. 
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 3:21:25 PM
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IMA_CHRISTIAN
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How about the fact that there haven't been any terrorist attacks in the country?
uh,, 911 ??? remmeber that?
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 3:31:19 PM
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I imagine that the president with the lowest approval rating was probably Lincoln. He was so disliked that he split the country and then caused the death of over a million young men to keep his economy from crumbling.
He was a monster.
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GWB does not have the lowest approval rating. Truman does if you are going to be honest with the polls. And now look at how Truman is rated among the Presidents. The only poll I care about with the apporval rating from a historical view point is Gallup since they were the only ones doing polls on aproval rating as far back as the 1940s.
Besides considering that we just expanded the congress that has a lower approval rating then Bush basically tells me people really don't know what they want and just do what the Press tells them to.
As far as the OP is concerened this was always the Democrats to win so I would say Obama really had no Obsticles but the fact that he didn't win by 10 or so points I find more instersting from a historical point of view.
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 3:36:56 PM
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Now that you mention it, for a nation so strapped for cash, how did they manage to give Obama over $600 million for his campaign.
Well, there is significant (albeit circumstantial) evidence that a portion of that haul came from outside our country. Some data-mining could likely identify the source currencies, but given that Obama's web site had all fraud protections deliberately disabled, tracking things beyond that would be difficult.
-Robb
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RE: What went wrong for McCain - 11/5/2008 3:46:31 PM
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Lapidoth
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hmmm im rethinking something -
has anyone considered that maybe JUST MAYBE ,, obama won the presidency ...
by earning it..
by deserving it...
by winnning it on his own merits, and efforts..
coz he is the best candidate for the job..
and/or because that is the way voting is set up.. we the people get to vote for whom we want -- because of whatever reason we want ... and the one with the most yes gets to be president.
ROFL.............
You just revealed you don't really have a "clue."
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RE: What went wrong for McCain - 11/5/2008 3:51:54 PM
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IMA_CHRISTIAN
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hmmm im rethinking something -
has anyone considered that maybe JUST MAYBE ,, obama won the presidency ...
by earning it..
by deserving it...
by winnning it on his own merits, and efforts..
coz he is the best candidate for the job..
and/or because that is the way voting is set up.. we the people get to vote for whom we want -- because of whatever reason we want ... and the one with the most yes gets to be president.
ROFL.............
You just revealed you don't really have a "clue."
hey i was serious about that. he won coz he was the better candidate,, or gave the best presentation... whatever he did.. HE WON! :) you will see. obama will shock and awe you!
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 3:51:59 PM
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Lapidoth
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Obama?Please...I'm absolutely embarrassed that so called "African-American Christians" can throw away their "beliefs" and vote for someone who is pro abortion and Gay marriage.
It is a historical feat that Obama won the election,but it is by no means a surprise.America,like all other countries are Liberals and it was clear that the Media was for Obama.
I am Canadian so my opinion doesn't mean anything,but I have been following the Election just to see how many "Christian African-Americans" would forget about their so called "beliefs" and I was sadly correct.
I was almost drawn to tears how Few "professing Christians" really stand by the word of God.I am an alien to 98% of my colleagues simply because I as an African-Canadian care more for the Word of God than my skin color.
Sammy, your opinion counts greatly.
You are outside looking in so you can see it for what it is.
Those in the big middle of themselves can't see any further than that.
Praise God, there are those who uphold allegiance to God over all else.
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RE: What went wrong for McCain - 11/5/2008 3:52:53 PM
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Peter_Gunn
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hmmm im rethinking something -
has anyone considered that maybe JUST MAYBE ,, obama won the presidency ...
by earning it..
by deserving it...
by winnning it on his own merits, and efforts..
coz he is the best candidate for the job..
and/or because that is the way voting is set up.. we the people get to vote for whom we want -- because of whatever reason we want ... and the one with the most yes gets to be president.
ROFL.............
You just revealed you don't really have a "clue."
One of the masses, Lap, just one of the masses!
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 3:53:17 PM
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Lapidoth
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obama will shock and awe you!
Nothing he does will shock and awe me.
I saw him and the surroundings for what it is.
But, he will disappoint you.
Time will reveal this to you, unless you wallow in denial.
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RE: What went wrong for McCain - 11/5/2008 3:53:49 PM
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One of the masses, Lap, just one of the masses!
At least i changed my avatar! :)
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