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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 3:56:05 PM
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Lapidoth
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With the "moderate" McCain now out of the way,
the upside is that "True Conservatism" is back in the game.
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 4:04:02 PM
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Lapidoth
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Again,I am not an American so my point may not matter much.But if i was an American,I wouldn't care Obama saved me from the financial crisis and all the other "positive' things he may do.My concern is his stand on Abortion and Gay Marriage,I rather be the poorest man on earth than to say yes to Abortion and Gay marriage.
TRUTH always matters.
If the "professing christians" understood the ways of God,
He would come first and He would fix the economy.
At least take care of us in spite of the economy.
Thanks for all your thoughts Sammy.
King David said is it better to be a door keeper in God's House
than to live in the palaces of the world.
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Why does He keep quoting Torah? Doesn't He know He's about to abolish it?
http://www.tedpearce.com/Videos/TheForgottenpeople.html
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 4:14:02 PM
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Lapidoth
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I truly believe we can thank the current president - George Bush - for helping Obama get elected. And the "Blame it on Bush" mantra just keeps on going... 
OK, if that's your opinion, fine. But what has W done that was terrific?
WHAT HAS OBAMA DONE?
No one has ever given an answer to that question.
WHERE IS HE GOING TO TAKE US?
Still, no one knows. He just said, "We'll get there!"
All I can say is "GET WHERE?!"
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Why does He keep quoting Torah? Doesn't He know He's about to abolish it?
http://www.tedpearce.com/Videos/TheForgottenpeople.html
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 4:44:30 PM
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Lapidoth
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I know he hasn't done anything in the White House.
I was asking what has he done that anyone can name.
And I think you knew that.
The question was asked many times to the public,
all they could say was , He'll bring change.
Not one could name a single thing he did.
He was a community organizer, he'll make changes.
See what I mean?
What has he done?
He said we will get there.
I just asked, "Where?!"
No one knows.
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Why does He keep quoting Torah? Doesn't He know He's about to abolish it?
http://www.tedpearce.com/Videos/TheForgottenpeople.html
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 4:48:51 PM
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Mark328
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I know he hasn't done anything in the White House.
I was asking what has he done that anyone can name.
And I think you knew that.
The question was asked many times to the public,
all they could say was , He'll bring change.
Not one could name a single thing he did.
He was a community organizer, he'll make changes.
See what I mean?
What has he done?
He said we will get there.
I just asked, "Where?!"
No one knows.
Yep, you're right. What did Bush do as governor of Texas before he was POTUS?
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 5:00:12 PM
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rockominal
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Still, no one knows. He just said, "We'll get there!"
All I can say is "GET WHERE?!"
Exactly! And with this ambiguous "change" banner of his I'm wondering, change what in order to get where?
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 5:03:49 PM
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StephK
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ORIGINAL: Lapidoth
Still, no one knows. He just said, "We'll get there!"
All I can say is "GET WHERE?!"
Exactly! And with this ambiguous "change" banner of his I'm wondering, change what in order to get where?
When the real change he wants isn't what the sheeple thought he can say I didn't lie. He just promised "change and hope".
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Even as he walks along the road, the fool lacks sense and shows everyone how stupid he is. ~ Ecc. 10:2-3
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 5:11:05 PM
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ORIGINAL: Lapidoth
I know he hasn't done anything in the White House.
I was asking what has he done that anyone can name.
And I think you knew that.
The question was asked many times to the public,
all they could say was , He'll bring change.
Not one could name a single thing he did.
He was a community organizer, he'll make changes.
See what I mean?
What has he done?
He said we will get there.
I just asked, "Where?!"
No one knows.
Thanks for speaking out loud exactly what I was thinking.  He used words like 'change' and 'hope', but he was so very vague, and that worries me.
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 5:21:06 PM
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"country first" is also ambiguous.
does anyone know if all the things that were thrown against Senator obama are going to come up again for investigation and/or to haunt him?
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 5:27:55 PM
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StephK
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The difference is that John McCain had decades of public service to examine.
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The heart of the wise inclines to the right but the heart of the fool to the left.
Even as he walks along the road, the fool lacks sense and shows everyone how stupid he is. ~ Ecc. 10:2-3
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RE: What went wrong for McCain - 11/5/2008 8:17:14 PM
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Peter - hey but the good thing is - you had a part in deciding who you wanted.
obama could not have done it without the peopel who voted for him. the power was in the people's hands ,,, the voters.
Wow! He's gotten to you! 
WHO has the power?
WHO sets up the authority on earth?
Sounds like you're willing to change scripture for this man.
ya know, ,lately i've been starting to say "Take-Me-To-Your-Leader" ;)
but kidding aside, i'm just trying to be an encouragement, I do know God is the one in charge.. since i am a Calvinist (believe it or not!).... then i do beleive in the sovereignty of God,,, and that God in his providence, put up Barack for his eternal purposes. you dont think Barack won without God's ordaining it, do you?
you dont think obama pulled a fast one on God and sorta snuck in there do you?
I just have a wait and see atttitude. I'm still going to continue life as usual. mentally im in a better position than the obama-haters because i already am ready to accept the truth that he won, and i wont spend nights worrying.. not yet anyway.
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you dont think obama pulled a fast one on God and sorta snuck in there do you?
If you want to get down and dirty.. ... Its beginning to look in the spirit... that the only thing left in the prophecy concerning ALL nations, as in all nations ..whom will be gathered to come against Israel... in the scriptures.. ....means ALL.
Now.....in order for that to happen.. there has to be a pres who cannot be pro Israel, Obiviosly!
...and in like manner The Islamics’ hold that same thought about the end time’s scenario (...and they can't wait to speak to him about it) 
Since the USA has to be a part of the ALL nations… that can only mean the USA has to back away ...for the prophecy to be fulfilled
It looks as if this pres might be "that one, ...and of course the economy is to blame 
Question
When Obama is given a deal that the Saudis would pay off our national debt... in exchange for backing away from Israel,
.....Being based on Obama’s never ceasing rhetoric on the economy during this campaign and “the people’s” messiah.
….which offers do you think he'll take?
RE: What went wrong for McCain
That’s easy….He is pro Israel
And we don't want any more failed policies...now do we?
LG
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 8:20:47 PM
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LoyalGypsy
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ORIGINAL: Lapidoth
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Again,I am not an American so my point may not matter much.But if i was an American,I wouldn't care Obama saved me from the financial crisis and all the other "positive' things he may do.My concern is his stand on Abortion and Gay Marriage,I rather be the poorest man on earth than to say yes to Abortion and Gay marriage.
TRUTH always matters.
If the "professing christians" understood the ways of God,
He would come first and He would fix the economy.
At least take care of us in spite of the economy.
Thanks for all your thoughts Sammy.
King David said is it better to be a door keeper in God's House
than to live in the palaces of the world.
Hey Lap
Obama is the 44th Pres, are you familiar with the significant of numbers in the scriptures?
I am looking for 44 and 4
LG
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...So the Persians ask that the 300 drop their arms. Leonidas responds; "Persians! Come and get them!"
300 The Movie
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 8:27:36 PM
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Until then, please keep your giddiness to yourself.
What...you mean quit gloating at least until more of the picture becomes clear? You mean quit attention-grabbing? You mean "think rationally"? Where's the fun in all that?
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 8:31:02 PM
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The press took very good care of obama.
It paid off for the press. They are selling newspapers in record numbers. Maybe he has already saved a few jobs.
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 8:35:18 PM
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The press took very good care of obama.
It paid off for the press. They are selling newspapers in record numbers. Maybe he has already saved a few jobs.
The local paper here (Gannet) backed Obama and they raised the price of the store bought papers .25 cents…just for the occasion
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Ex 19:5 Now therefore, if you will indeed obey My voice
...So the Persians ask that the 300 drop their arms. Leonidas responds; "Persians! Come and get them!"
300 The Movie
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 9:09:26 PM
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Acts29
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The press took very good care of obama.
It paid off for the press. They are selling newspapers in record numbers. Maybe he has already saved a few jobs.
The local paper here (Gannet) backed Obama and they raised the price of the store bought papers .25 cents…just for the occasion
YEP!!! I am hearing the sound of change ...cha ching, cha ching, cha ching
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RE: What went wrong for McCain - 11/6/2008 3:36:24 AM
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And so that's why you voted for Barr? 
thats why i didn't want to reveal who i voted for, because you all would want to dissect my strategy. I knew Obama would win with or without my vote (I was right) and because of a couple of Obama's moral views, I could not as a Christian vote for him coz of my conscience, and I really liked Barr. so thats it.
I've been thinking, I'm on to somethng though. Whether you like Obama or not, he really did earn this job. He ran an excellent campaign. Like it or not, face this fact - He made history.
If you dont think that black people would pass up the chance to make Obama the first black president, you are mistaken. He inspired people with words of change and hope. He is younger than Mccain.
all thru mccain's campaign, it turned me off, mccain had a negative campaign.. He lived in the past.. he pointed to the past... i.e. he focused his campaign on the past - his heroic war efforts, ayers and that stuff in the 1970's, he peppered his campaign with fear and doubt about obama, he used a mascot Joe the Plumber - what do you think of when you think of a plumber - toilets, poop and sewage,, meanwhile Obama was promising change, and hope, and the future, a better future. AT the last week, Mccain talked something about obama and the coal industry - coal is underground, that focuses you on things underground - buried , meanwhile Obama made you think of that commercial - and the first picture was grains of wheat billowing in the air... that made you look higher.. look up.. mccain's campaign- out of his mouth - made you feel fear if you picked the other candidate.
Remember the bible tells you speak words of edification... well its true.. words can lift you up or put you down,, mccain,, whenever he chose to speak words that made you feel uneasy about obama, it still reflected off him,, you associated uneasiness and fear with mccain,, he did not inspire you to hope,, like Obama did.
Obama's workers and supporters said that they were inspired by him, they wanted to work for him, they all worked very hard.. they saw the great history they would be a part in making. dont fool yourself. it is not racist for me to say this. Obama did make history. Even other counties saw this. They said it inspired them about America - that america voted the first black president.. this represents change to them too.
You may not like the man Obama, but he ran an excellent campaign.. He represents the future, and change, and a way out of this horrible mess the "good ol boys" network created. right now, he is assembling his cabinet. he is already doing things. we dont want the good ol boys network ,, the same ol stodgy politicians, we want hope and change for the future.
Now we as christians look to God for these things, however, the world doesn't look to God, but if they see a man Obama inspiring them, they will look to him for that. You may not like Obama, but he worked hard and earned his place as president. plus he had a lot of cash to spend on it which helped.
mcains best speech was his concession speech. He should have done more of that in his campaign,, it would have made an impact.
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/6/2008 11:21:32 AM
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ORIGINAL: LoyalGypsy
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ORIGINAL: Acts29
The press took very good care of obama.
It paid off for the press. They are selling newspapers in record numbers. Maybe he has already saved a few jobs.
The local paper here (Gannet) backed Obama and they raised the price of the store bought papers .25 cents…just for the occasion
Got a problem with capitalism?
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/6/2008 11:23:42 AM
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earthless
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the economy seemed to be the #1 american concern. When you are faced with your home forclosed, no job, etc.,
I disagree. 96% of all mortgage holders are paying their mortgage every single month. Those that are being foreclosed (for the most part) are people who should never have been given a mortgage loan in the first place. But mostly Democrat policies from the Clinton era till recently were forcing Fannie and Freddie to give loans to people who should never have one.
Also, the economy didn't really become an issue till recently. Remember that just last year it was the war, terrorism and immigration.
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/6/2008 11:36:47 AM
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Acts29
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ORIGINAL: cow451
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ORIGINAL: LoyalGypsy
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ORIGINAL: Acts29
The press took very good care of obama.
It paid off for the press. They are selling newspapers in record numbers. Maybe he has already saved a few jobs.
The local paper here (Gannet) backed Obama and they raised the price of the store bought papers .25 cents…just for the occasion
Got a problem with capitalism?
NOPE! I do have a problem with "freedom of the press" not being responsible in the manner they report the news. They created the news for the sake of a profit. I do have a problem with the election being sold off for a few temporary dollars.
One thing for sure after the press runs its course in being pro Obama they will then have to find a new way to sell those papers......ummmm I wonder who might be their next victim....of course under the guise of "freedom of the press". It won't Sarah Palin or McCain they have already obliterated them.
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