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Is there a difference between BEING A CHRISTIAN, and BE... - 11/5/2008 12:40:14 PM
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d4nnyb0y02
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Is there a difference between BEING A CHRISTIAN, and BEING SAVED? Or, are they one in the same.
I say that without a doubt, "Being Christian" and "Being saved," are not the same thing. That is because I see "Being Chrsitian," an act of our own will that is truly modeling, or being like Christ. And, "Being saved," is God's faithfulness to us to keep those whom He has called. However, though we have been called, and though we are indeed saved... our actions may not be Chrsitian, and therefore it is an insult to say that my actions are like that of Christ when they aren't. Yes, I'm saved... but am I being like Christ?
Anyways, so how do you see it? What do you understand? Certainly, if you are a Christian, you are saved... because you could not be a little Christ if you were not saved. Though God is faithful to keep us because of HIS promise to us, His promise to us is not what makes us Chrstians the way I see it. The first Christians were *called Christians* by the unbelievers who observed their actions. It wasn't a tag that these first converts of Christ gave to themselves.
Being a Christian is an ACT of OUR WILL to be like God. Being saved is a PROMISE of GOD'S WILL for us.
That's the way I see it... How do you see it?
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RE: Is there a difference between BEING A CHRISTIAN, an... - 11/5/2008 12:56:51 PM
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I think you summed it up pretty well.
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RE: Is there a difference between BEING A CHRISTIAN, an... - 11/5/2008 5:04:56 PM
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I am going to take a a little different look at the question before I answer. Bear with me. Your question was, "Is there a difference between being a christian and being saved?" The answer to this on a literal sense would be to say that one is a noun, while the other an adverb. A christian is a person, while being saved is an action.
The question you are asking has more to do with being carnally minded or spiritually minded. A person who truly models Christ is a spiritually minded person. They are folks who exhibit the fruit of the Spirit. It is possible to be a carnal christian. This is a sign that the person has not developed the mind of Christ, and have not become mature as Christians. For some, this is a choice that they make. A few years ago, just after I was saved, I worked with one such girl. I myself had not matured much at this point, so I did not know how to correct her. She would tell me that she was a christian, that she believed, but she still swore, and she didn't push her faith on others, she did this, and didn't do that. This is the result of a carnal mind, not a spiritual mind. She made the choice not to grow. She chose it, because she didn't want to be holy, or separated from the world. Was she a christian? Yes and no. She was choosing her master, and it wasn't Christ. Can she still repent and begin to grow? Yes. She believed that Jesus was the son of God, that He died on the cross, and was resurrected. But it had not had any impact on how she lived her life. Even being an immature christian at the time, I recognized it as what it was. But I couldn't say much, because there hadn't been much change in my life at that point. Today, I would be able to correct her straight from the word of God, and I still think about the lost opportunity to show her the error she was living in.
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RE: Is there a difference between BEING A CHRISTIAN, an... - 11/5/2008 5:32:01 PM
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I am going to take a a little different look at the question before I answer. Bear with me. Your question was, "Is there a difference between being a christian and being saved?" The answer to this on a literal sense would be to say that one is a noun, while the other an adverb. A christian is a person, while being saved is an action.
The question you are asking has more to do with being carnally minded or spiritually minded. A person who truly models Christ is a spiritually minded person. They are folks who exhibit the fruit of the Spirit. It is possible to be a carnal christian. This is a sign that the person has not developed the mind of Christ, and have not become mature as Christians. For some, this is a choice that they make. A few years ago, just after I was saved, I worked with one such girl. I myself had not matured much at this point, so I did not know how to correct her. She would tell me that she was a christian, that she believed, but she still swore, and she didn't push her faith on others, she did this, and didn't do that. This is the result of a carnal mind, not a spiritual mind. She made the choice not to grow. She chose it, because she didn't want to be holy, or separated from the world. Was she a christian? Yes and no. She was choosing her master, and it wasn't Christ. Can she still repent and begin to grow? Yes. She believed that Jesus was the son of God, that He died on the cross, and was resurrected. But it had not had any impact on how she lived her life. Even being an immature christian at the time, I recognized it as what it was. But I couldn't say much, because there hadn't been much change in my life at that point. Today, I would be able to correct her straight from the word of God, and I still think about the lost opportunity to show her the error she was living in.
Yes, and I would say that the only way we can be a Christian (little Christ) is if we have put on the mind of Christ... and given in to the call to let go of what is carnal, and receive what is spiritual. There are lots of people calling themselves Christians, who are saved by grace, through faith (like all of us are), but are not Christians in *my* understanding of what it means to be a little Christ... one who has the mind of Christ. I praise the Lord that we are saved by grace through faith... but it's trying to get people to give up what is carnal that can be a challenge, like you described. Now you could show her where she is wrong, and that's good. That's the sort of Christian thing I'm talking about. A Christian grows in the Lord, and you obviously have. :)
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RE: Is there a difference between BEING A CHRISTIAN, an... - 11/5/2008 5:41:16 PM
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You know, I think this is a good point to point out that little verse in Romans 10. For those who believe from their heart, and confess with their mouth that Jesus Christ is Lord, they will be saved. I think that there are two keys to that verse. The first is from the heart. If they believe from their heart, there would or should be a change in the way that they live. The second word would be Lord. What does Lord really mean. Some seem to think that it means God, but in reality it means the owner and ruler or master. It is an English title given to those who govern. When you proclaim Jesus as Lord, you are proclaiming the master of your life, or the governor of your life.
I also think that there are many who claim Christ just so they can be blessed. It always comes down to a change in your heart, not just calling out for blessings or obeying just for blessings. God knows the motivations in our heart, and our motivations for being saved and following Him are just as important as proclaiming Him.
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I am going to take a a little different look at the question before I answer. Bear with me. Your question was, "Is there a difference between being a christian and being saved?" The answer to this on a literal sense would be to say that one is a noun, while the other an adverb. A christian is a person, while being saved is an action.
The question you are asking has more to do with being carnally minded or spiritually minded. A person who truly models Christ is a spiritually minded person. They are folks who exhibit the fruit of the Spirit. It is possible to be a carnal christian. This is a sign that the person has not developed the mind of Christ, and have not become mature as Christians. For some, this is a choice that they make. A few years ago, just after I was saved, I worked with one such girl. I myself had not matured much at this point, so I did not know how to correct her. She would tell me that she was a christian, that she believed, but she still swore, and she didn't push her faith on others, she did this, and didn't do that. This is the result of a carnal mind, not a spiritual mind. She made the choice not to grow. She chose it, because she didn't want to be holy, or separated from the world. Was she a christian? Yes and no. She was choosing her master, and it wasn't Christ. Can she still repent and begin to grow? Yes. She believed that Jesus was the son of God, that He died on the cross, and was resurrected. But it had not had any impact on how she lived her life. Even being an immature christian at the time, I recognized it as what it was. But I couldn't say much, because there hadn't been much change in my life at that point. Today, I would be able to correct her straight from the word of God, and I still think about the lost opportunity to show her the error she was living in.
Yes, and I would say that the only way we can be a Chrstian (little Christ) is if we have put on the mind of Christ... and given in to the call to let go of what is carnal, and receive what is spiritual. There are lots of people calling themselves Christians, who are saved by grace, through faith (like all of use), but are not Christians in *my* understanding of what it means to be a little Christ... one who has the mind of Christ.
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RE: Is there a difference between BEING A CHRISTIAN, an... - 11/21/2008 11:05:01 AM
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I wanted to see if anyone wanted to talk about this again, so rather than start a new thread... I'm trying to resurrect the old one.
We are not a Christian just because we are saved. Being saved and being a Christian are two different things. Christ's life was not defined by the fact He was "saved." No... Christ's life was defined by the way He walked, the things He did, and His obedience to following the Father. What Christ did is what made Him the Christ. Likewise, what *we do* is what makes us *little Christs*.
Our life, as "Christians" is not defined by the fact we are saved. Our definition as a Christian is attained, maintained, or diminished, by how we walk. The less *like Christ* we are... the less we *obey God's Word*, then the less of a Christian we are. Some people don't like to hear this... and it's usually the ones who are walking contrary to God's Word.
We are not Christian by belief... we are saved by belief (faith), but *we are Christian, by action and obedience to God's Word.*
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RE: Is there a difference between BEING A CHRISTIAN, an... - 11/21/2008 11:16:32 AM
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Being Saved
and Being a Christian is the same thing
Being saved and being CHrist -like is not the same
I am saved, blood bought of the Lamb Jesus Christ
does that mean I am not Christian
does it mean that I am not Christ-like
I am saved because of God's amazing grace,hence making me a Christian
Have I always acted Christ-like?
no
I fail God everyday I live and breathe
every single day
do i desire to fail Him? No but I do and hate it each time I do
I am His child, saved and set free from sins bondage
saved from the wrath to come
I AM A CHRISTIAN
I AM SAVED
AND THANK YOU LORD JESUS!
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Gal 1:10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ
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RE: Is there a difference between BEING A CHRISTIAN, an... - 11/21/2008 11:30:14 AM
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Being Saved and Being a Christian is the same thing
I disagree. Over the years, we have *mistakenly* associated *being saved* to *being a Chrsitian*.
Being a Christian is a life of action, based on works. Case in point, the first Chrsitians were called such *because of their actions*.
Our salvation, however, is one based on unmerited, undeserved favor, from which God does not repent. Salvation is a gift of God, not of works. What makes us Christian, however, is our works, and our walk.
Amen to being saved, even though we fall. :)
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RE: Is there a difference between BEING A CHRISTIAN, an... - 11/21/2008 11:44:17 AM
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Being Saved and Being a Christian is the same thing
I disagree. Over the years, we have *mistakenly* associated *being saved* to *being a Chrsitian*.
Being a Christian is a life of action, based on works. Case in point, the first Chrsitians were called such *because of their actions*.
Our salvation, however, is one based on unmerited, undeserved favor, from which God does not repent. Salvation is a gift of God, not of works. What makes us Christian, however, is our works, and our walk.
Amen to being saved, even though we fall. :)
brother you said
Being a Christian is a life of action, based on works. Case in point, the first Chrsitians were called such *because of their actions*.
would u give me tht scripture that supports this view
we are Christians because we have been saved from the wrath to come by repenting of our sins and trusting n Christ and Christ alone for forgiveness
Does everyone live a Christian life pleasing to the Lord?
No
all do not
does that mean they are not saved
does it mean they are not Christian
Of course not
Act 11:20 And some of them were men of Cyprus and Cyrene, which, when they were come to Antioch, spake unto the Grecians, preaching the Lord Jesus.
Act 11:21 And the hand of the Lord was with them: and a great number believed, and turned unto the Lord.
IF they believed and turned to the Lord as their Saviour, they are Christians
They are Saved from the wrath to come
Act 11:22 Then tidings of these things came unto the ears of the church which was in Jerusalem: and they sent forth Barnabas, that he should go as far as Antioch.
Act 11:23 Who, when he came, and had seen the grace of God, was glad, and exhorted them all, that with purpose of heart they would cleave unto the Lord.
Act 11:24 For he was a good man, and full of the Holy Ghost and of faith: and much people was added unto the Lord.
Act 11:25 Then departed Barnabas to Tarsus, for to seek Saul:
Act 11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch
Lets go one step further
what did King Agrippa say to the Apostle Paul
Act 26:28 Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian
Born again, Blood Bought,Saved,Redeemed =Christian my brother ,Christian.
God bless
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RE: Is there a difference between BEING A CHRISTIAN, an... - 11/21/2008 12:25:27 PM
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brother you said
Being a Christian is a life of action, based on works. Case in point, the first Chrsitians were called such *because of their actions*.
would u give me tht scripture that supports this view
This is more so a definition of terms. There is nothing in God's Word that says because you are saved... I will call you a Christian. We are His church, a body of believers, saved by grace. Christian is the term given to us by the unbelievers who saw their works.
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we are Christians because we have been saved from the wrath to come by repenting of our sins and trusting n Christ and Christ alone for forgiveness
Can you give me scripture that says saved = Christian?
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Does everyone live a Christian life pleasing to the Lord?
No all do not does that mean they are not saved does it mean they are not Christian
Of course not
Agreed, we don't always please the Lord perfectly and walk perfectly, and it doesn't mean we aren't saved. However, the *less we behave like-Christ, the less of a like-Christ we are* hence, less Christian (like-Christ) we are. You are associating SAVED to mean Christian, and I do not. I cannot say that a person who is walking contrary to God's will, though they are saved, are behaving in a manor that is like Christ (Christian).
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Act 11:20 And some of them were men of Cyprus and Cyrene, which, when they were come to Antioch, spake unto the Grecians, preaching the Lord Jesus. And the hand of the Lord was with them: and a great number believed, and turned unto the Lord.
IF they believed and turned to the Lord as their Saviour, they are Christians
No, they are saved. If they walk rightly in obedience *like-Christ* then they will be *like-Christ*, not just saved by grace through faith, which of course, we all are. Yes, salvation unifies us, but if we don't walk like Christ... we are not, like Christ. This is why Paul persuades us to take on the mind of Christ, and in many places we are encouraged to WALK in a manor that is worthy of the Gospel of Christ.
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They are Saved from the wrath to come
Amen. By grace, through faith, not of works.
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what did King Agrippa say to the Apostle Paul
Act 26:28 Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian
Born again, Blood Bought,Saved,Redeemed =Christian my brother ,Christian.
Could you give me scripture that supports this? Jesus never promised us we would be "Christians"... He prayed that we would be one, and he commanded us to be many things... but He promised us we would be saved--and we are, praise the Lord.
Christian means "like Christ". Unless you can prove to me that Christian means "saved" then I don't think you have a case. Christian means "like Christ" or "little Christ." It does not mean "saved by Christ."
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RE: Is there a difference between BEING A CHRISTIAN, an... - 11/21/2008 1:14:29 PM
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brother you said
Being a Christian is a life of action, based on works. Case in point, the first Chrsitians were called such *because of their actions*.
would u give me tht scripture that supports this view
This is more so a definition of terms. There is nothing in God's Word that says because you are saved... I will call you a Christian. We are His church, a body of believers, saved by grace. Christian is the term given to us by the unbelievers who saw their works.
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we are Christians because we have been saved from the wrath to come by repenting of our sins and trusting n Christ and Christ alone for forgiveness
Can you give me scripture that says saved = Christian?
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Does everyone live a Christian life pleasing to the Lord?
No all do not does that mean they are not saved does it mean they are not Christian
Of course not
Agreed, we don't always please the Lord perfectly and walk perfectly, and it doesn't mean we aren't saved. However, the *less we behave like-Christ, the less of a like-Christ we are* hence, less Christian (like-Christ) we are. You are associating SAVED to mean Christian, and I do not. I cannot say that a person who is walking contrary to God's will, though they are saved, are behaving in a manor that is like Christ (Christian).
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Act 11:20 And some of them were men of Cyprus and Cyrene, which, when they were come to Antioch, spake unto the Grecians, preaching the Lord Jesus. And the hand of the Lord was with them: and a great number believed, and turned unto the Lord.
IF they believed and turned to the Lord as their Saviour, they are Christians
No, they are saved. If they walk rightly in obedience *like-Christ* then they will be *like-Christ*, not just saved by grace through faith, which of course, we all are. Yes, salvation unifies us, but if we don't walk like Christ... we are not, like Christ. This is why Paul persuades us to take on the mind of Christ, and in many places we are encouraged to WALK in a manor that is worthy of the Gospel of Christ.
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They are Saved from the wrath to come
Amen. By grace, through faith, not of works.
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what did King Agrippa say to the Apostle Paul
Act 26:28 Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian
Born again, Blood Bought,Saved,Redeemed =Christian my brother ,Christian.
Could you give me scripture that supports this? Jesus never promised us we would be "Christians"... He prayed that we would be one, and he commanded us to be many things... but He promised us we would be saved--and we are, praise the Lord.
Christian means "like Christ". Unless you can prove to me that Christian means "saved" then I don't think you have a case. Christian means "like Christ" or "little Christ." It does not mean "saved by Christ."
Question, if those who are saved by God's grace are not Christian, what are they?
Luk 8:12 Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.
Luk 13:23 Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them,
Luk 13:24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
If the saved arent Christians, who will be entering heaven?
The lost?
For by grace are ye saved thru faith and that not of yourselves it is the gift of God not of works lest any man boast
2Ti 1:8 Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner: but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according to the power of God;
2Ti 1:9 Who hath saved us,
and called [us] with an holy calling,
not according to our works
, but according to his own purpose and grace,
which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,
You said the Apostles were called Christians because they did good works
where is that found?
I think the Apostle Peter summed it up good here
1Pe 4:16 Yet if [any man suffer] as a Christian,
let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.
1Pe 4:17 For the time [is come] that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if [it] first [begin] at us, what shall the end [be] of them that obey not the gospel of God?
1Pe 4:18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?
1Pe 4:19 Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls [to him] in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.
you have a good day brother..God bless
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RE: Is there a difference between BEING A CHRISTIAN, an... - 11/21/2008 1:26:58 PM
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...We are not Christian by belief... we are saved by belief (faith), but *we are Christian, by action and obedience to God's Word.*
Yes - I agree, we are saved by faith (which is a gift from God) and I think I understand your post better now (I was confused at first). You are saying we are 'Christlike' (i.e. Christian) by action??? I would agree 100%. However, it should follow that if we are saved, we should be displaying more of the character of Christ as time passes and we come to know our Lord and Saviour better.
I was saved by faith unto good works, i.e. I was not saved by good works but unto good works which makes me more Christlike with each step of obedience; therefore, I don't think there is anything wrong with calling myself a Christian or saying I'm saved. Either/or.
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RE: Is there a difference between BEING A CHRISTIAN, an... - 11/21/2008 1:49:57 PM
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...We are not Christian by belief... we are saved by belief (faith), but *we are Christian, by action and obedience to God's Word.*
Yes - I agree, we are saved by faith (which is a gift from God) and I think I understand your post better now (I was confused at first). You are saying we are 'Christlike' (i.e. Christian) by action??? I would agree 100%. However, it should follow that if we are saved, we should be displaying more of the character of Christ as time passes and we come to know our Lord and Saviour better.
I was saved by faith unto good works, i.e. I was not saved by good works but unto good works which makes me more Christlike with each step of obedience; therefore, I don't think there is anything wrong with calling myself a Christian or saying I'm saved. Either/or.
It's just a matter of termanology really. I have no problem saying that when I do something less Christ-like... I am not less saved, but I am behaving *less Christian*. Christian has become a title people just think they are born with, or hold on to, regardless of how they are walking. I suppose it is true that if you are saved... you are at the very least, like Christ in the fact you are going to heaven, and consequently, that makes us like Christ, we are Christian :D. I just think we would do good to monitor our works... and not on the matter of salvation... but for the good of the kingdom, rightly inspect ourselves to see if we are obeying the Gospel or not. We should strive to give our UTMOST, and be more Christian, more Christ-like, all the time... rather than hold onto the title "Christian" and call it good simply because we ARE SAVED (which we are, I would never contest that--by grace, through faith; not of works).
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RE: Is there a difference between BEING A CHRISTIAN, an... - 11/21/2008 1:54:09 PM
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you have a good day brother..God bless
God bless :)
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One can claim to be anything by tradition, culture or heritage however the true test of what he claims is obedience one teacher or teaching. Romans 2:25-'For the tenets of the Law only have value if you obey the Law but if you are counting on your heritage that very Law condemns you. 26 When the unclean man obeys the Law won’t his uncleanness be regarded as clean by virtue of his obedience? 27 If he keeps the Law then can he not judge you who is a transgressor of the Law? 28 So it’s not the outside trappings and tradition 29 but a[true disciple ]Jew is a person which is one inwardly and shows his obedience to the Spirit in his life experience not merely in public perception to the praise of men but to the glory of God.'
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RE: Is there a difference between BEING A CHRISTIAN, an... - 11/21/2008 2:18:35 PM
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I think they're different mainly because there are plenty of people who claim to be Christian who haven't been born again. I don't automatically assume that someone is actually a follower of Christ just because they say they are a Christian.
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RE: Is there a difference between BEING A CHRISTIAN, an... - 11/21/2008 2:25:09 PM
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Is there such a thing as a Christian who is not saved? I don't think so. There may be people who say they are Christians who are not saved, but just saying so does not make one a Christian.
Is there such a thing as a saved person who is not a Christian. I don't think so. Unless of course there are saved people in other religions besides Christianity.
I think being a Christian and being saved are so irrevocably intertwined that they are virtually the same thing.
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RE: Is there a difference between BEING A CHRISTIAN, an... - 11/21/2008 7:12:02 PM
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RE: Is there a difference between BEING A CHRISTIAN, an... - 11/21/2008 7:19:07 PM
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ORIGINAL: DeeAnnBailey
I think you summed it up pretty well.
Ditto!
Too many -"Christians" running around nowadays - whom are actually - "Hypocrites"!.
-charles
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