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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/6/2008 11:13:30 AM
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Thankfully I dont think americans are that stupid to allow these things to happen, and if Pres-Elect Obama and his extreme liberal friends in congress DO start implementing these extreme policies, I do expect them to be out of jobs in 2-4 years (2 for most of the house, 4 for Pres Obama).
I agree with you on this especially - I don't see them being as liberal as they would want to be. Not saying they will not try... but there are still a lot of conservative and sane-thinking moderates in this country for them to not get these things pushed through.
That does not mean we're not to be vigilant about it.. but you're right.
Look at how close this election was. With Obama breaking his finance promise and outspending McCain 4 to 1.. with Obama having the most comprehensive attorney team and campaign team in the history of all U.S. elections.. why he was not able to close that gap more than he did is very telling.
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/6/2008 11:15:12 AM
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Again, an example of this would be appreciated. I love the way George Bush can be torn apart seven ways to Sunday, vulgar takes on his last name, comapring him to a chimpanzee, etc, and yet when somebody calls out Barack Obama's tax plan for what it is, then it is labeled "hate". The mind boggles...
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/6/2008 11:25:18 AM
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Thankfully I dont think americans are that stupid to allow these things to happen, and if Pres-Elect Obama and his extreme liberal friends in congress DO start implementing these extreme policies, I do expect them to be out of jobs in 2-4 years (2 for most of the house, 4 for Pres Obama).
I agree with you on this especially - I don't see them being as liberal as they would want to be. Not saying they will not try... but there are still a lot of conservative and sane-thinking moderates in this country for them to not get these things pushed through.
That does not mean we're not to be vigilant about it.. but you're right.
Look at how close this election was. With Obama breaking his finance promise and outspending McCain 4 to 1.. with Obama having the most comprehensive attorney team and campaign team in the history of all U.S. elections.. why he was not able to close that gap more than he did is very telling.
Actually this one will probably fly through with no problem. This is a FCC regulation not a bill or law. The FCC is a 5 member committee, with 2 republicans, 2 democrats the 5th person appointed by the president. Which will make the committee 3 - 2 in favor of the democrats and Obama. This particular fairness act only applies to specifically talk radio and targeted at the conservative talk radio AM stations. It is not across the board and it will not apply to all forms of media. I am hoping that someone will take it to the supreme court regarding freedom of speech.
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/6/2008 11:26:34 AM
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You mean take it to the Supreme Court before Obama rapes it and turns in into a bastion of liberalism.
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/6/2008 11:28:01 AM
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You mean take it to the Supreme Court before Obama rapes it and turns in into a bastion of liberalism.
Exactly. This is why it would be best if he does try to enact this regulation before any changes are made to the supreme court.
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/6/2008 11:36:27 AM
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For my part, I'd LOVE to see the Fairness Doctrine back in effect. All it requires is that things be presented in a fair and equitable manner. I can understand why the Rush and Hannity Hate Machines wouldn't like it, because it means the liberal view has to get equal radio time. Wow, they couldn't just fill the airwaves with hate. I'm having a hard time seeing a downside to that.
Just FYI,there was Christian radio when the Fairness Doctrine was in force, so you don't have to worry about all that disappearing...
I couldn't disagree with you more. You can call Rush and Hannity hate machines, but there are thousands of Americans who believe Christians are hate machines... they hate homosexuals, they hate a women's freedom of choice, etc. It's all a matter of perspective.
The problem is that the mainstream media are liberal and talk radio is one of the few media outlets that the conservatives dominate. They would NOT DARE FORCE FAIRNESS DOCTRINES RULES ON NEWSPAPERS! Why is that?
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/6/2008 11:44:22 AM
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You mean take it to the Supreme Court before Obama rapes it and turns in into a bastion of liberalism.
Exactly. This is why it would be best if he does try to enact this regulation before any changes are made to the supreme court.
It is therefore very important that we pray for the continued health and well-being of Justices Scalia, Thomas, Roberts, Alito, and Kennedy. (Kennedy being a swing vote.) If any one of them retires before Obama's term is up, you can probably kiss many of our Constitutional rights goodbye. (And yes, I base that assertion squarely on how the current liberal Justices have already voted to undermine our rights in various cases.) Right now whatever issue comes up is a tossup, depending on how Kennedy votes.
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/6/2008 11:47:20 AM
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This is an interesting question.
Some of you raise some very valid first ammendment considerations.
Plus, administering something like this could easily turn into a real mess.
Another thing to consider is that the airwaves are the property of the US public, and so the public does have an interest in what its used for and thus has the right to exercise some control over what is on the airwaves. For example: we can ban use of certain words. If a commentator is using the airwaves to whip-up the public into a violence-prone frenzy, is that something the public is willing to see its 'asset' used for?
I guess I think of it like renting city parks to private groups. Would it be ok for conservative groupls to rent all the city parks on election? Or, is that just the liberals problem for bothering to rent the park themselves? What if the city gave preference to one party in renting city parks?
One bit of irony: at the same time this debate is going on, conservatives are working hard to enforce their version of a 'fairness doctrine' on the Public Broadcasting Service (PBS) , buy trying to force 'liberal' opinion programming cut and conservative opinion programming added.
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/6/2008 11:53:08 AM
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That's only for the public broadcast channels though. The left can purchase licenses like the other stations do and as long as they bring in the $$$$$$$$$$$$$ they can stay on the air. NPR is public radio and it's as left as they come. The taxpayers pay for it too.
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/6/2008 11:56:39 AM
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One bit of irony: at the same time this debate is going on, conservatives are working hard to enforce their version of a 'fairness doctrine' on the Public Broadcasting Service (PBS) , buy trying to force 'liberal' opinion programming cut and conservative opinion programming added.
YET.........
The key difference here is that outlets such as PBS, NPR receive large amounts of tax payer money. Radio stations that host Rush, Hannity, etc.. do not.
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/6/2008 12:53:18 PM
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since when does disagreement equal hate? Disagreement doesn't equal hate. Disagreement in a vile and hateful manner most likely does equal hate. If you can't hear it in these shows then you are as deaf as you are blind.
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So you're all for free speech, just as long as it is speech you agree with? Nah, I'm for free speech that isn't filled with hateful half truths while disregarding the whole story.
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Thou shall not speak ill of The One. Respect the Great Leader! This is a mild example but I find this absolutely insulting and why would I want to even listen, much less discuss, politics with someone who writes like this. It's ugly and just nasty. It drags political discussion into the ditch - a ditch we would be better served to get out of.
Part of the reason liberal left radio doesn't have listeners is because the vast majority of us don't like liberal lies any better than we like the ones on the right. Unfortunately, since the right wing hate machines are doing well, I guess the same cannot be said for my right wing counterparts.
any way you cut it, the wack jobs on the right LOVE to spread lies and hate and the majority of those on the right just LOVE to listen to it and suck up the hatred. That does this country no good. None at all.
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/6/2008 1:01:09 PM
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The fairness doctrine is one of the "payback" attempts the hard left will push now that the Dems are in control. The FD grew out of a time before the internet and before 356-channel cable TV. A staple of local TV and radio was a daily "editorial". There probably was a need to make media play fair. That did lead to the major media making at least token efforts to present different sides of an issue (often like the Globetrotters vs the Nationals). Wow, a breath of fresh air opinion. So you think in our current environment there really isn't any need to bring back the FD?
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/6/2008 1:02:25 PM
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I haven't read through all the posts yet, but has anyone made this connection?
http://www.ndol.org/ndol_ci.cfm?kaid=103&subid=110&contentid=254682
Seems like Commarades Schumer and Emmanuel want to force you to get what's rightfully yours!
(Maybe someone should start a new thread all about "Obama's toadies"!)
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/6/2008 1:06:43 PM
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I am hoping that someone will take it to the supreme court regarding freedom of speech.
O'Reilly is on it. Keeping watch! LOL.
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/6/2008 1:09:20 PM
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The fairness doctrine is one of the "payback" attempts the hard left will push now that the Dems are in control. The FD grew out of a time before the internet and before 356-channel cable TV. A staple of local TV and radio was a daily "editorial". There probably was a need to make media play fair. That did lead to the major media making at least token efforts to present different sides of an issue (often like the Globetrotters vs the Nationals). Wow, a breath of fresh air opinion. So you think in our current environment there really isn't any need to bring back the FD?
There is no "need" for this socialist agenda.
If you want "fair and balanced" media, watch FOX Channel.
They give both sides. The thing is, they show liberal AND conservative
views and they out perform all the liberal networks combined.
The FD is all about wiping out the conservative voice, not about "fair."
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/6/2008 1:38:24 PM
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relady,
For either Rush or Hannity to be as full of hate as you and others feel they are, they would have to take lessons from the likes of Steffany Miller, Rockie Rhodes, and Ed Shultz (all liberals from "Progressive Radio).
Every so often I try to listen to our local "Progressive Radio" station. In the five minutes I can stand to listen to any of them, I have heard four minutes of hate and anger towards conservatives that is suppose to pass for entertainment. I have heard little if anything that can be remotely be interpreted as being constructive or informative.
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/6/2008 1:47:07 PM
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The fairness doctrine is one of the "payback" attempts the hard left will push now that the Dems are in control. The FD grew out of a time before the internet and before 356-channel cable TV. A staple of local TV and radio was a daily "editorial". There probably was a need to make media play fair. That did lead to the major media making at least token efforts to present different sides of an issue (often like the Globetrotters vs the Nationals). Wow, a breath of fresh air opinion. So you think in our current environment there really isn't any need to bring back the FD?
It doesn't seem broke, so why fix it?
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/6/2008 1:49:10 PM
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[If you want "fair and balanced" media, watch FOX Channel.
They give both sides. The thing is, they show liberal AND conservative
views and they out perform all the liberal networks combined.
ROFLOL. You need to use a smiley or give a sarcasm alert.
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/6/2008 1:59:01 PM
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Why are you so hard on Fox News? Rasmussen said they had the most fair coverage.
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/6/2008 2:10:26 PM
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This is a mild example but I find this absolutely insulting and why would I want to even listen, much less discuss, politics with someone who writes like this. It's ugly and just nasty. It drags political discussion into the ditch - a ditch we would be better served to get out of.
This is why the FD is dangerous.
This is just your opinion and it is not more important than anyone else's.
Offending somebody or hurting their feelings is not hate.
If I want to express my dislike or even hatred of anyone else I should be able to.
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/6/2008 2:10:35 PM
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Why are you so hard on Fox News? Rasmussen said they had the most fair coverage.
Why do you bother us with facts???
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/6/2008 2:14:32 PM
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What would the FD do (if anything) to websites like this one and OnePlace.com?
(If this has already been addressed, sorry! Please just direct me to the right spot!)
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