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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/7/2008 10:08:45 AM
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P31W
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What about Christian radio stations?
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/7/2008 10:09:22 AM
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in this case Rush (or whomever) is paying for the air time and being told how to spend their money ie "You will give the other side airtime on your program to defend their position". according to what I've been told and been able to deduce, it would not be that they would have to give air time on their program but that the stations would have to allow equal air time for shows with the opposing view point. Is that incorrect, or does no one really know how it would work? This particular issue is not a big one with me, but I know it is with a lot of conservatives, I'm really just trying to understand the issue a little better.
But what if they don't want to pay for the airtime? If they are willing to pay for the airtime then I would think that most of these stations would sell them that time since the main reason for being in business is to make a buck and not to promote a particular ideology
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/7/2008 10:09:24 AM
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Scott Rasmussen, the namesake of the company, whom you respect says something positive about Fox and it still not good enough for you. That's silly.
If you don't like Fox new because they don't line up with your idealogy then just say so.
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/7/2008 10:09:43 AM
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In the five minutes I can stand to listen to any of them, I have heard four minutes of hate and anger towards conservatives that is suppose to pass for entertainment. I have heard little if anything that can be remotely be interpreted as being constructive or informative. Well, I don't listen to any liberal talk radio and I don't know who any of those people you mentioned are. but what I quoted is exactly how I feel after about five minutes of trying to listen to conservative radio. I'm sorry, but between them Hannity and Rush control about 6 hours of radio time every day here in St. Louis. I'm sorry, but I wouldn't be crying in my beer if the government stopped ALL that nonsense.
Do they control ALL of the radio stations???? Just change the dial
People have forgotten about that old saying... it still applies today...
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/7/2008 10:14:40 AM
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I am totally opposed to the FD because, in the Age of Information, every viewpoint has an outlet. OK, this I can understand. Not completely sure I agree but at least it's a valid reason for being against the FD. You may be right. People like my hubby who don't want to listen to 6 hours a day of conservative Talk Radio might disagree with you, LOL.
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/7/2008 10:16:45 AM
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Scott Rasmussen, the namesake of the company, whom you respect says something positive about Fox and it still not good enough for you. That's silly.
Just trying to clarify the context of his remarks as opinion from someone with a vested interest. Again, he could be right, but show me numbers before you claim it as evidence.
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/7/2008 10:17:49 AM
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DO control all the TALK RADIO stations. If one wants to listen to talk radio, one is forced to listen to them or another conservative view. I think my husband told me there is ONE show on our Talk Radio station that isn't "conservative". He likes to listen to talk radio, why should he not be able to hear something besides the typical conservative rant? Talk radio stations aren't like music stations where you can just change the channel to another talk radio station if you don't like what you hear.
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/7/2008 10:20:22 AM
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I am totally opposed to the FD because, in the Age of Information, every viewpoint has an outlet. OK, this I can understand. Not completely sure I agree but at least it's a valid reason for being against the FD. You may be right. People like my hubby who don't want to listen to 6 hours a day of conservative Talk Radio might disagree with you, LOL.
I happen to live in a market where the times i listen to talk includes more local programming, a rarity in these canned format times. When traveling, I rarely listen to talk radio because it's like going to another town and shopping at Wal-mart. It's all Rush and the like. The few liberal shows are no better.
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/7/2008 10:22:18 AM
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Do they control ALL of the radio stations???? Just change the dial
Yes, I find it extremely ironic that this is exactly what many liberals tell Christians and other social conservatives when they complain about smut and immorality in the media. "No one is forcing you to read/watch/listen to it." However when something offends them, it must be silenced. I see it over and over and over again (especially in academia).
"Free speech, so long as we approve of it."
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/7/2008 10:23:49 AM
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If one wants to listen to talk radio, one is forced to listen to them or another conservative view. I think my husband told me there is ONE show on our Talk Radio station that isn't "conservative". He likes to listen to talk radio, why should he not be able to hear something besides the typical conservative rant? Talk radio stations aren't like music stations where you can just change the channel to another talk radio station if you don't like what you hear
There is a new business for you. The problem you will face is that people don't want to listen to liberal talk radio and no one wants to advertise on a station that has so few listeners.
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/7/2008 10:42:08 AM
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I don't think radio content should be government mandated, and I'm as pretty far left in my beliefs as possible.
I really don't like hitting the "seek" button on the radio when I'm driving somewhere, 12 stations come up and Limbaugh is on 10 of them. When I want traffic or hog futures, I want my traffic and hog futures!
If "Socialist talk radio" or "The satan radio hour" (send a donation, get a souvenir miniature pitchfork) became a reality, the religious zealots would have their heads spinning and spitting saliva, threatening boycotts etc.
All viewpoints are valid and should be heard. I go the Voltaire route with Limbaugh and all them....even though I disagree totally with them, they have a right to broadcast it..but please don't be hogging ALL the frequencies!
That issue is really about the conglomeration of radio. Which gets down to what is profitable. It's why you hear the same few songs over and over and over too.
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/7/2008 11:00:30 AM
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DO control all the TALK RADIO stations. If one wants to listen to talk radio, one is forced to listen to them or another conservative view. I think my husband told me there is ONE show on our Talk Radio station that isn't "conservative". He likes to listen to talk radio, why should he not be able to hear something besides the typical conservative rant? Talk radio stations aren't like music stations where you can just change the channel to another talk radio station if you don't like what you hear.
Good grief.... it is simple economics. Liberal talk radio cannot support itself with advertisers. Do you think that stations should be made to air programs that make them less money? I guess you do...
I prefer a free market.
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/7/2008 11:29:59 AM
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Here ya go...
"The phony soldiers." --on U.S. service members who support withdrawal from Iraq
"He is exaggerating the effects of the disease. He's moving all around and shaking and it's purely an act. ... This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn't take his medication or he's acting." --on an ad by Michael J. Fox endorsing Claire McCaskill for Senate for supporting embryonic stem cell research
"And don't forget, Sherrod Brown is black. There's a racial component here, too. And now, the newspaper that I'm reading all this from is The New York Times, and they, of course, don't mention that." --on the 2006 Ohio Senate primary race involving then-Rep. Sherrod Brown (D-OH), who is white
I think that's plenty. That said, I'm opposed to the Fairness Doctrine. People will listen to whatever talk show they wish to.
Like I said, you have to put "hate" in perspective. Thousands believe James Dobson of Focus on the Family s a hate monger.
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/7/2008 11:33:37 AM
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Like I said, you have to put "hate" in perspective. Thousands believe James Dobson of Focus on the Family s a hate monger.
This is a very good point. When you start creating laws against "hate crimes" and "hate speech", who gets to be the arbiter of what constitutes "hate"?
It is indeed a dangerous path to walk down...
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/7/2008 11:43:55 AM
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Relady you need a reality check.
Incase you forgot, I too am from St Louis (though right now I am exiled in KC). Here is a quick news flash. Rush and Hannity are on TWO DIFFERENT STATIONS! Rush is on 1120 AM and Hannity is on 97.1 FM! Secondly, FYI, Hannity's show on 97.1 is CUT between the second and third hour for Glover who is moderate at best, but is most likely a full out liberal. Third, what else is on? Have ever heard JC Corcoran on 96.3 in the mornings? This guy is a full out liberal! He is the reason I dont listen to that station anymore in STL. Fourth, Do you like Charlie Brennan who is on before Rush? Does He make your blood boil?
To claim that Rush and Hannity control the airwaves in STL for 6 hours is rather silly. As others have said, there are DOZENS upon DOZENS of other channels you can listen to. For instance 90.7 is the NPR station. Do you even know it exists?
Finally what part of, if people wanted to listen to liberals on the radio, then there would be liberals on the radio! If there was a market for that, people would listen to the station, and groups/businesses would WANT to give them air time because that would mean more money in their pocket books. but the fact is that people DONT want to listen to liberal radio in large enough numbers to make it worth while.
Thus people like you get it in your heads to fedralize the radio stations and FORCE stations to air things that would mean they would loose money, loose listeners. And with the advent of Satalite radio, and the internet. You will NOT beable to silence Rush, Hannity, beck, ect. If you kick them off the "public" airwaves, people will take their money and go else where. People who listen also will go else where. Just because you think you can force both positions to be aired, does NOT mean both positions will be listened to! Or are you going to force people who listen to rush to HAVE to listen to the other side? If you dont want to do that, then why force radio stations to play both? When only ONE radio station per market carries Rush or Hannity at one time!
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/7/2008 1:04:03 PM
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I'm sorry, but between them Hannity and Rush control about 6 hours of radio time every day here in St. Louis. I'm sorry, but I wouldn't be crying in my beer if the government stopped ALL that nonsense.
So again, you are in favor of the government muzzling free speech...
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People like my hubby who don't want to listen to 6 hours a day of conservative Talk Radio might disagree with you,
That's what ON/OFF buttons and Tuning knobs are for, dear....
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/7/2008 1:26:28 PM
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Well, I don't listen to any liberal talk radio and I don't know who any of those people you mentioned are. but what I quoted is exactly how I feel after about five minutes of trying to listen to conservative radio. I'm sorry, but between them Hannity and Rush control about 6 hours of radio time every day here in St. Louis. I'm sorry, but I wouldn't be crying in my beer if the government stopped ALL that nonsense.
Your radio is only able to pick up one channel... They don't control anything... That is blatantly false and rather sad... And being ok with he government stifling free speech while exercising it is classic hypocrisy.
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/7/2008 1:35:20 PM
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according to what I've been told and been able to deduce, it would not be that they would have to give air time on their program but that the stations would have to allow equal air time for shows with the opposing view point. Is that incorrect, or does no one really know how it would work? This particular issue is not a big one with me, but I know it is with a lot of conservatives, I'm really just trying to understand the issue a little better.
You seem to be mixing up the idea of giving politicians equal airtime...
What's next? Should opposing sitcoms have equal time...
It's really simple... Nobody on the left has figured out how to maintain listeners... And some on the left, like yourself, with no regard for the Bill of Rights wants the government to stifle free speech...
It's pretty sad that one would call for the government to trample on the right of speech regarding an issue that is not understood all that well by the person...
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/7/2008 1:39:19 PM
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DO control all the TALK RADIO stations. If one wants to listen to talk radio, one is forced to listen to them or another conservative view. I think my husband told me there is ONE show on our Talk Radio station that isn't "conservative". He likes to listen to talk radio, why should he not be able to hear something besides the typical conservative rant? Talk radio stations aren't like music stations where you can just change the channel to another talk radio station if you don't like what you hear.
Move to the Bay Area... You can listen to liberal talk radio till the gays can get married again...
Or why not have your hubby start a liberal talk show... Or yourself...
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/7/2008 1:59:06 PM
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It's really simple... Nobody on the left has figured out how to maintain listeners...
Except maybe Garison Keiler (not sure on the spelling there). But he's public radio.
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/7/2008 4:38:57 PM
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Anybody who thinks that this awful act will "balance" both sides is seriously misinformed. The mainstream media -(ABC, NBC, et all) will be allowed do all the one sided reporting that they want. This is mainly aimed at Rush, Hannity and Levin. Remember Mark Levin wrote "Men in Black" about the Supreme Court. He's high on this hit list. I enjoy listening to Sean Hannity. And as far as "fairness" he has repeatedly, almost on a daily basis, offered for Senator Obama to come on the show, over the past several months. Yet Obama has done nothing but make comments to the mainstream media about Hannity behind his back.
This is about silencing the opposition. They're already got 99 percent of the media locked down, but that other one percent is a danger to them. This isn't about being "fair" and it has nothing to do with pornography as schmuckie Chuckie would try to spin it for us to believe.
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/8/2008 9:12:01 AM
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Agreed, Hannity routinely allows liberals on his show, and will talk to them for as long as they are able to make civil discourse. Rush sends liberal callers to the front of the call waiting line, likewise for Boortz.
And yes it was funny that Obama accuses Hannity of "not saying these things to my face", yet will not accept a standing invitation to be on Sean's radio show.
Of course he did sit down with O'Reilly, which surprised me....
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RE: Dictator Charles Schumer supports the Fairness Doct... - 11/8/2008 9:26:52 AM
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DO control all the TALK RADIO stations. If one wants to listen to talk radio, one is forced to listen to them or another conservative view. I think my husband told me there is ONE show on our Talk Radio station that isn't "conservative". He likes to listen to talk radio, why should he not be able to hear something besides the typical conservative rant? Talk radio stations aren't like music stations where you can just change the channel to another talk radio station if you don't like what you hear.
May I suggest that your DH start his own liberal talk radio show.
Then he can go broke like all the other liberal talk radio shows have.
It is called a free market, and a free market is what the founding fathers intended for the USA.
If someone just has to listen to a far left radio station there is always the welfare station; NPR.
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But I'm thinking that them hogging most of the daytime air time might be what's behind this push for the FD - just guessing here. 
