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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/6/2008 11:25:16 AM
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ManimalX
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We don't even know what we are comparing Obama's "apple" comments to!!!!!! You already reached a conclusion on what Sarah Palin said as being "oranges" WITHOUT HAVING HEARD ONE WORD OF IT!
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/6/2008 11:42:07 AM
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huangshan
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We don't even know what we are comparing Obama's "apple" comments to!!!!!! You already reached a conclusion on what Sarah Palin said as being "oranges" WITHOUT HAVING HEARD ONE WORD OF IT!
My comment applies to the reporters and anyone else involved as well. He alleged she "didn't understand that Africa was a continent..." that's going with his understanding, which I don't see a compelling reason to doubt.
Do you think that someone reasonable would believe that Obama is unaware of how many states are in America based on his "57" comment? do you think someone would report it that way? I think it's likely (and the only reasonable assumption) that he was thinking of delicious ketchup or steak sauce, or perhaps a classic model of Chevy when he made the comment, and I don't think any reporter with a shred of integrity would report it otherwise.
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/6/2008 11:50:12 AM
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huangshan, I did watch the video BUT as you reference above it was not her but a commentator speaking. Do you have a link the the her actual comments or just the commentator?
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He alleged she "didn't understand that Africa was a continent..." that's going with his understanding, which I don't see a compelling reason to doubt.
Again, it is no different than the President Elect not knowing how many states are in the Union.
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/6/2008 1:04:32 PM
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relady
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Tell that to the rally crowds that were bigger than the crowds for Obama, McCain, or Biden. wow! Really? When did she draw 75,000 to a rally? or 100,000? Please.
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/6/2008 1:17:20 PM
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If palin was that much uninformed about things she should have known,,,, then we may be very lucky that mccain/Palin did not win.
suppose Palin would have become president - one heartbeat away from presidency they say - and we get her as president.
we might have had things happen that we would have wished Obama won.
And obama won - so maybe we got our wish.
think about it.
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/6/2008 1:26:29 PM
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coolfamily6
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She drew 60,000 in The Villages, FL.
rpof.org/article.php?id=514 (don't know how to do a link)
ETA: I searched and this looks like the largest crowd.
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/6/2008 1:28:16 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPsV6ZhL15c
and this is from Fox.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPsV6ZhL15c
and this is from Fox.
This feels like Deja Vu... Where have I heard someone say this before? Wasn't there a President who talked about the Country of Africa?
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/6/2008 1:38:18 PM
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This is a catfight.
http://frum.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTA3MDY2NGE3ODFjYjViNjhlOGFkMWZiNzYwZWRmYjY=
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/6/2008 4:06:20 PM
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I think people really aren't too stupid to recognize the difference between a verbal flub and genuine ignorance.
Ok a verbal flub is the 8-10 years but I do not think the state comment is any different than the Africa one.
He's a constitutional attorney. He taught constitutional law as a professor. He should know the 22 Amendment which is very easy to understand. The POTUS serves 8 years max.
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1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President, when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.
2. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years from the date of its submission to the States by the Congress.
A president can serve just under 10 years, if he/she is Vice President and completes the (almost) 2 years of a term. They can then be elected twice after that. almost 2 + 4 + 4 = almost 10.
(So if Gerald Ford had taken office after January 20th, 1975 he would have been eligible to run in both 1976 AND 1980. But since he took office before in August 1974, he was only eligible to run in 1976).
And Palin seems to not have had the intellectual rigor required to be president, IMO.
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/6/2008 4:18:57 PM
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huangshan, I did watch the video BUT as you reference above it was not her but a commentator speaking. Do you have a link the the her actual comments or just the commentator?
It's important to point out that this commentator was not just giving his own opinion, but rather a general overview of concerns that HER CAMPAIGN STAFF HAD.
But regardless of whether or not she knew what countries were covered by NAFTA or if Africa was a continent, my biggest concern about her is the way she handles advice/council from others. I have a strong suspicion that she is stubborn and disregards contrary opinions in much the same way as Pres. Bush. That's worse than any gap in factual knowledge.
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/6/2008 4:21:49 PM
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On the radio up here in Toronto, they're saying that Repub aides state that she refused coaching before the Katie Couric interview, that the questions were not out of line and were ones they anticipated, but she didn't want to be coached. If true, that does give me pause.
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/6/2008 4:23:21 PM
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You forgot to say, "campaign aides said" before you definiteively claimed that she didn't know Africa was a Continent.
That was just sloppy. As far as I saw, there was no video proving that charge.
You have to remember that 'campaign aides' make their living by 'running campaigns' and they are just a little sleazer than the candidates themselves. They are covering their rear ends by putting focus on Palin because they obvious like 'moderate' politicians and want to work for one in the future.
They cannot admit that they were complete embeciles and utter incompetent at running his campaign. Palin makes a convenient scapegoat.
As far as I'm concerned, every one of the campaign aides for McCain should wind up washing dishes in some greasy spoon; because, they sure are terrible at politics.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPsV6ZhL15c
and this is from Fox.
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/6/2008 4:49:08 PM
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gigigirrl
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Last I checked - this is a christian website. The report from Fox is listed as vague as McCain aids - the aids don't even show up on the show. The interviews are between fox anchors and a fox correspondent. So we are talking about a news person talking to another newsperson. Talking about what an unknown person said to them. At best hearsay of hearsay. If this were really true why would they not get on TV and actually say it. A couple thoughts. I would ask everyone who is throwing stones. Have you done many of these type of things.
- received bachelor of science degree in communications-journalism
- city council person
- mayor of a city
- chair of the Alaska Conservation Commission
- chair of the Interstate Oil and Gas Compact Commission, a multi-state government agency
- governor of a state
- crossed the country giving speeches and interviews
- put your self out there - not just with a user name on the net and took flack for what you believe.
Now I have bachelors in industrial psych. But I have not accomplished any of the other items. I am computer tech and website developer. And I know that Africa is a continent and that SOUTH Africa is a country. I also know that McCains campaign was made up of conservatives, moderates, and liberals, based on the comments people speaking for the campaign said on tv in different interviews. I also remember there were some that did not approve of her politics. Is it really that out there that they would not want to take responsiblity for losing so they needed a scapegoat - somebody they did not agree with? If Obama had lost I am sure based on the differing opinions of Obama and Biden - that Biden would have been a scapegoat - spokespersons made a few references to disagreements over the length of the their campaign. This is politics - the politicians always play the blame game. I would expect christians to act differently. Maybe that is too much to expect when it comes to politics.
BTW these ideas would apply whether I was talking about Palin or Clinton. She was made a scapegoat too.
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/6/2008 6:03:10 PM
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Geography is not my strong suit either but a bit of homework could have made all the difference.
This is first grade geography. Any six year-old should know it.
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/6/2008 6:05:48 PM
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ManimalX
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Good posts, TMeeks and gigi.
These aides are rats who began jumping ship long before the campaign was over. As mentioned, none of them were particularly conservative. I feel bad for Palin being surrounded by such a bunch of tools for so long.
Again, Christians should be ashamed of, "well, I heard that he heard that he heard that she said XYZ". You are only perpetuating gossip and slander. Nobody knows what was said, we only know THIRD AND FOURTH HAND SPECULATION.
You should be proud of yourselves for being so eager to jump in and trash your sister in Christ.
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/6/2008 6:16:57 PM
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Geography is not my strong suit either but a bit of homework could have made all the difference.
This is first grade geography. Any six year-old should know it.
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/6/2008 6:54:17 PM
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I realize a lot of this post-election stuff is born of frustration between Palin and McCain, which is probably a good reason why they were not elected.
And though I don't expect a president and VP to be of like minds on everything, it seems McCain and Palin were on other planets.
Palin also strikes me as someone who does not feel comfortable about taking orders as opposed to giving them.
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/7/2008 4:40:25 PM
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I think it's important to note that these aren't quotes, they are reports of staffers that are now scrambling to cover their rears now that the campign has failed.
Never trust a rat fleeing a sinking ship.
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/7/2008 6:46:48 PM
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You have to remember that 'campaign aides' make their living by 'running campaigns' and they are just a little sleazer than the candidates themselves. They are covering their rear ends by putting focus on Palin because they obvious like 'moderate' politicians and want to work for one in the future.
Very true...but that hasn't stopped you from repeating them...
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/7/2008 6:48:23 PM
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wing2000
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I think it's important to note that these aren't quotes, they are reports of staffers that are now scrambling to cover their rears now that the campign has failed.
Never trust a rat fleeing a sinking ship.
..yea it's safe to say there were certain aids who were against her selection from the start. I find their remarks (even if true) to be disgusting.
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/7/2008 7:08:49 PM
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Tell that to the rally crowds that were bigger than the crowds for Obama, McCain, or Biden.
A rally that celebrates ignorance?
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Anyways, we all make dumb gaffes and stupid comments in our lifetime. I know I've done it. Obama did it a few times (others mentioned it already, the 57 states comment). Who cares? They are human just like we are. They make dumb oopsies just like we do. Sheesh, you'd think we could move on from focusing on stupid things politicians say in public. Perhaps she really did say "Africa is a country" but honestly it doesn't worry me if she did. Just like it doesn't worry me that Obama said "57 states". 
